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Hey, Loco...look here...it's the winner of the Leukemia Cup Regatta
2004 (3 first place wins!) and guess which boat won!!!!

http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/Beneteau__35S5.jpg

I know, I know...you're very happy with your old slow boat. That's
nice. Really. It. Is.



Robert B
Beneteau 35s5
NY

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Funny, I thought the Leukemia Cup was about raising dollars, not
winning picnic races.


I have a sneaking feeling that the organizers of the LC hope for some
good sailboat racing, Ozzy. Just a feeling!

RB

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I have a sneaking feeling that the organizers of the LC hope for some
good sailboat racing, Ozzy. Just a feeling!


RB

Then they'd better put more effort into it and less into raising
dollars.


Why are you attacking a charity race, Ozzy? Seems like a good cause. In
2004, the sailing community raised more than $2.8 million at 47
Regattas, bringing the overall campaign results to more than $15
million. More than 17,000 participants took part in the 2004 series.

RB

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Who's attacking?
I simply stated that they are more interested in raising dollars than
having competitive sailing.


Ozzy, you're babbling. The people running the event want money for
research. The people racing want to win. Do you have a valid point here
to make?

RB

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IIRC, totals raised last year was about 2 million....we had a can
race.
ie you scull a can of beer, sail to the opposite shore, scull another
then sail back, scull another and so on. Last man standing wins....a
slab of beer!


The race seems a bit more serious than that, Ozzy. Do some research and
check out some of the boats and crew. I don't suggest that the 35s5 I
linked to is a boat I could beat. He's carrying a very high end set of
sails. The pic is from the sailmaker's website for racing sails in
fact.


RB

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Have you noted that the winners of the Leukemia regatta are the
highest fund raisers?


In the case of that non-sponsored 35s5 (against sponsored boats) I
guess they just had a good boat and a crack crew. You still have no
point here that anyone can figure out. If you want to discredit the
event or the sailors, what can I say. Go to town if it makes you happy.


RB

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I'm not following this...

Ozone claims that in a Fund raising Race the combined points of fund raising
and placement decide the winner?

Robert is claiming a boat won a charity race despite not having any funds
raised based on placement only?

Having raced my full keel cruiser in many Fund Raising/Charity Races... it
has been my experience that both time and funds are calculated to determine
the winner. No Line Honours are awarded at Fund Raising Races to my
knowledge. We beat a 42 ft Frasier on the Abilities Cup Regatta despite the
fact they raised $1200 and crossed the finish line first... while we raised
$8000 and crossed the finish line in 6th place. My vessel was not
"sponsored"... the Frasier was "sponsored" by the local marine supply store
and they flew up racers from Vancouver to sail it. I just got a big donation
from the Diamond Mines when I placed their VP and HR director aboard my
vessel as crew. :-)

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Have you noted that the winners of the Leukemia regatta are the
highest fund raisers?


In the case of that non-sponsored 35s5 (against sponsored boats) I
guess they just had a good boat and a crack crew. You still have no
point here that anyone can figure out. If you want to discredit the
event or the sailors, what can I say. Go to town if it makes you happy.


RB

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"The Leukemia Cup Regatta"? Which one?
Perhaps it was this guy - "Have found myself in
the mainsail trimmer position on a 35s5 Beneteau.
We raced this weekend came in 6th of 6th (Leukemia
Cup Regatta)."
S.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
: Hey, Loco...look here...it's the winner of the
Leukemia Cup Regatta
: 2004 (3 first place wins!) and guess which boat
won!!!!
:
:
http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/Beneteau__35S5.jpg
:
: I know, I know...you're very happy with your old
slow boat. That's
: nice. Really. It. Is.
:
:
:
: Robert B
: Beneteau 35s5
: NY
:

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.... In
2004, the sailing community raised more than $2.8 million at 47
Regattas, bringing the overall campaign results to more than $15
million. More than 17,000 participants took part in the 2004 series.


It is a good cause, one that is achieving great results. My wife & I
support the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society strongly, outside of these
regattas, and I've also sailed in about a dozen Leukemia Cups over the
years, in places from New England to Florida... how about you, Bubbles?


OzOne wrote:
Who's attacking?
I simply stated that they are more interested in raising dollars than
having competitive sailing.


Of course, that's the main goal... but the regatta is fun too. There's
pretty good competition in some clubs & classes. It really depends on
who they line up for race committee.

We have the same thing here, Sail 4 Cancer.
IIRC, totals raised last year was about 2 million....we had a can
race.
ie you scull a can of beer, sail to the opposite shore, scull another
then sail back, scull another and so on. Last man standing wins....a
slab of beer!
Yess Bubbles it isn't politically correct.


But it sounds like a lot of fun.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Thanks to seveal members here, we were the top
fundraiser in our chapter's regatta. The was 23
miles of crappy weather. Our class wasn't scored
properly so we still don't have results.
Did you do it for the race? Not really. We did
it to show our support for our friends. We had a
great time on the boat. As they say, the worst
day on a boat is still better than the best day at
work - oh, wait, I run a sailing center for a
living so even the worst day at work is still a
day of sailing.
But anyway, we had great company and raised a
bunch of money for a good cause.
S.
"DSK" wrote in message
...
: It is a good cause, one that is achieving great
results. My wife & I
: support the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society
strongly, outside of these
: regattas, and I've also sailed in about a dozen
Leukemia Cups over the
: years, in places from New England to Florida...
how about you, Bubbles?

:
: Fresh Breezes- Doug King
:

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Could be the same guy...guess he needed those new sails!

http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/m...eteau_35s5.htm

The 35s5 is one FAST cruising boat. I've sailed J30, J35, J24, 30/30's,
C&C 34 XL and so on. But the thing I'm most impressed with is the rack
and pinion steering. It's tiller feedback in a wheel...amazing! Every
wheel steered boat should have it.

RB

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Bob has no concept of charity.


OzOne wrote in message
Jesus Bubbles, AmCup boats are used in celebrity races.
The cost of the boats involved in the fund raising regattas has
nothing to do with the quality of the racing but more the
quantity of
cash that can be raised from and by their owners.
Have you noted that the winners of the Leukemia regatta are the
highest fund raisers?

You may just be able to beat that other boat on the water if
you get a
crack crew, but you'll need to start raising cash now to
actually win
the regatta.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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"Swab Rob" wrote ...
Hey, Loco...look here...it's the winner of the Leukemia Cup
Regatta


The real winners are the Luukemia suffers who recieve support
from the race donations.

Sorry bob, you've shown us once again how low a loser like
yourself can sink.


Scotty

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Bob has no concept of charity.


How much did YOU give after the New Orleans disaster? I bet I could buy
your boat with our single donation!

RB

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The real winners are the Luukemia suffers

Only an animal like Scotty would troll this thread. Bye bye, animal.

RB

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Why knot try to explain PHRF racing to him next?

Does 'scull' mean 'chug'?

Scotty

OzOne wrote in message
...
On 27 Oct 2005 03:19:18 -0700, "Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:

I have a sneaking feeling that the organizers of the LC hope
for some
good sailboat racing, Ozzy. Just a feeling!


RB

Then they'd better put more effort into it and less into
raising
dollars.


Why are you attacking a charity race, Ozzy? Seems like a good
cause. In
2004, the sailing community raised more than $2.8 million at
47
Regattas, bringing the overall campaign results to more than
$15
million. More than 17,000 participants took part in the 2004
series.

RB

Who's attacking?
I simply stated that they are more interested in raising
dollars than
having competitive sailing.

We have the same thing here, Sail 4 Cancer.
IIRC, totals raised last year was about 2 million....we had a
can
race.
ie you scull a can of beer, sail to the opposite shore, scull
another
then sail back, scull another and so on. Last man standing
wins....a
slab of beer!
Yess Bubbles it isn't politically correct.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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See what I mean?



--
"Swab Rob" wrote ...
Bob has no concept of charity.


How much did YOU give after the New Orleans disaster? I bet I
could buy
your boat with our single donation!

RB

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He's carrying a very high end set of
sails. The pic is from the sailmaker's website for racing sails in
fact.

And who is that sailmaker? And why doesn't that "high end" main fit?

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He's carrying a very high end set of
sails. The pic is from the sailmaker's website for racing sails in
fact.

And who is that sailmaker? And why doesn't that "high end" main fit?


I already posted the full link to the sailmaker for Ozzy.

RB

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Why knot try to explain PHRF racing to him next?


Yikes...Can anyone explain PHRF?


Racing PHRF may be fun, but it's 100% bullcrap. My friend wins plenty
with her 1988 TR Catalina 30 against the J-Boat sailors who taught her
how to race. She and they all know it's a joke. We'll race the 35s5,
but I wouldn't take a win...or a loss very seriously. And anyone who
does take PHRF seriously is an even bigger joke.

RB

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Yep, that's it.
Mostly fun and fundraising....a good thing.


Yes, and as he pointed out, "prett good competition."
For PHRF anyway...

RB

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Hey Nutsy,

Where is that roomy cockpit you've been talking about? Look at that
picture YOU posted. Three men fill that cockpit up.

There will be no stretching out in that cockpit. Not enough room for an
Adult to lay down.

Now let's see a picture of the roomy V-berths & the Aft Cabin (S)

OT

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Ozone wrote


Does 'scull' mean 'chug'?

Yep, that's the method.
Do you have 'boat races' there?
I don't recall ever hearing of one.


Where?

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"Swab Rob" wrote


Racing PHRF may be fun, but it's 100% bullcrap.


In that case you'd fit right in.


. She and they all know it's a joke. We'll race the 35s5,
but I wouldn't take a win...or a loss very seriously. And
anyone who
does take PHRF seriously is an even bigger joke.


So that's why you're bragging about a Bendy winning the Lukemia
Cup, eh joke boy?

SBV

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So that's why you're bragging about a Bendy winning the Lukemia
Cup, eh joke boy?

Because I knew it would get Loco's panty's in a bunch...and it did! I
could care less about the rating. The 35s5 is fast and fun and that's
all we wanted in our weekend cruiser/daysailor.

RB

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"Swab Rob" wrote ...
So that's why you're bragging about a Bendy winning the Lukemia
Cup, eh joke boy?

Because I knew it would get Loco's panty's in a bunch...and it
did! I
could care less about the rating.



BULL **** ! Too late to backpedal now, you already posted your
crap about it.

Busted! You lose.

You ARE a joke.

SV

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OzOne wrote in mes

Funny thing is, the lady drinkers swallow faster in most cases.


Uh, yeah, there's a reason for that.

E-mail me and I'll explain it to you.

Scooter

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"Swab Rob" wrote ...

And none too soon, my mouth is getting tired.





Robert B
Boatless
NY

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Because I knew it would get Loco's panty's in a bunch...and it
did!..

Did I even comment? I don't remember.

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Where is that roomy cockpit you've been talking about? Look at that
picture YOU posted. Three men fill that cockpit up.

There will be no stretching out in that cockpit. Not enough room for an

Adult to lay down.


The cockpit is larger than the Catalina 34 or 36 cockpit. We had 5
adults on board Tuesday and there was room for 2 more with ease. Down
below I can actually stand as the headroom is just over 6'4. Amazing
for a 35 footer and truly excellent for a racer/cruiser. The births are
over 7 feet in BOTH cabins. Few boats can manage the same. And finally,
the head is large enough for folks with long legs...the largest I've
seen on ANY sailboat under 40 feet. Deck space is made further friendly
by the fact that lines are run below. A clean deck will protect Thomas
and Mom's feet! The galley is secure, the seating area comfortable. The
nav station larger than the C&C 32's and many others I've seen. For
anyone over 6'2 it's the best layout I've seen for cruising in a 35
foot boat. Recently Catalina introduced the 350 which also has a cabin
friendly for taller folks.
Oh...and let's not forget the truly big swim platform with integrated
swim ladder! This is a perfect boat for tha family, especially on all
those light air days on the sound. Very few boats can match her feature
for feature and still perform...a few come to mind...C&C 34XL, C&C
99...both much more expensive. We came close to the C&C 99, but the
open transom didn't go with a toddler and the bunks were pretty tight.
After sailing this boat twice...and feeling the power and speed along
with the precise steering system....FORGETABOUT IT!!!!

35s5!!!

Robert B

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http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg

Look at the pic, Thom! Look how long that cockpit is!!! Look at the
generous coamings. It's a big secure playground for Thomas and his
parents...even when we're surfing at 14 knots! I sailed the boat is
some stiff winds...it's awesome!!!


RB

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"Swab Rob" wrote
Look at the pic, Thom! Look how long that cockpit is!!! Look at
the
generous coamings. It's a big secure playground for Thomas and
his
parents...

You're going to take his Dad sailing?

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OzOne wrote in message

Can't remember the last time anyone I know has had a yacht trucked
anywhere!

I did in 1999... I trucked Overproof from Great Slave Lake in Yellowknife
NWT to Halifax. The sailing route would have been a 2 year schedule taking
me down the Mackenzie River, which required high water season to negotiate
the Ramparts Rapids and the Inuvik Delta... then on to the Beaufort Sea
which would place me there in mid fall and freezing water... then a push and
haul-out for winter at Kugluktuk, a spring launch in July and sail through
ice packs along the Northwest Passage ... then down the coast of Baffin
Island, Labrador and Newfoundland to arrive Halifax in November. The cost of
prepping the vessel and supply drops for such an excursion was beyond my
fiscal abilities at the time.

It cost me 10KCdn to truck it here. Now if I was in Bob's position and had
to chance to sail a vessel up from Florida to NYC... an easy passage with a
multitude of ports I would do that instead of trucking it. Why is Bob in a
rush to get a new boat back up on the cradle???

CM

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Now if I was in Bob's position and had
to chance to sail a vessel up from Florida to NYC... an easy passage
with a
multitude of ports I would do that instead of trucking it. Why is Bob
in a
rush to get a new boat back up on the cradle???


Because I want to start installinng our new gear now and I don't see a
whole in our schedule for quite a while. Storage for me here is free.
The boat only costs me money sitting in St. Petersburg.

RB

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Now if I was in Bob's position and had
to chance to sail a vessel up from Florida to NYC... an easy
passage
with a
multitude of ports I would do that instead of trucking it. Why
is Bob
in a
rush to get a new boat back up on the cradle???


"Swab Rob" wrote

Because I'm afraid to sail.

RB

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Nutsy?

Just how many feet between the Cabin and the wheel? We know by your own
posting, room behind the wheel is TIGHT.

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Just how many feet between the Cabin and the wheel? We know by your own

posting, room behind the wheel is TIGHT.

Room behind the wheel IS tight. I was worried about it. Folks claimed
"you don't drive a boat like a bus" but sometimes I like to stand
behind the wheel. It seemed tight. But Tuesday, under fresh breezes, I
never noticed the wheel accept that it could be reached from everywhere
with ease. Standing behind it was fine and under power I stood on the
after deck for visibility, still able to reach the huge wheel with
ease. Feel was simply no less than amazing. I never knew a wheel could
present that kind of feedback. The Whitlock is in another league for
sure.

RB

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Nutsy?

I asked; How many feet between the Cabin and the wheel? Don't change
the subject. Answer the question. We know there is damn little room
behind the wheel.

You say you can reach the wheel from anyplace. Sure you can; the cockpit
is small.

Again give us the distance from cabin to wheel? (In feet)

OT

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Nutsy?

You're full of it!! You don't get feed-back from a R&P set-up.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma

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I asked; How many feet between the Cabin and the wheel? Don't change
the subject. Answer the question. We know there is damn little room
behind the wheel.


Nobody's changing the subject, but I don't have the exact measurement.
Since I was able to stretch out with ease, it's probably at least 7
feet. I don't know why you keep saying the cockpit is small when these
pics show otherwise...
http://www.floridaboats.net/images/3.../slides/10.JPG

And this pic shows the giant cockpit (looking to be a third of the boat
length-it's actually longer than the aft cabin itself)) and the very
ample swim platform as well.
http://www.floridaboats.net/images/3...u/slides/2.JPG
Note the canvas covers for all ports and hatches!
Give it up, Thom...she's a nice roomy performance cruiser...
http://www.floridaboats.net/images/3.../slides/21.JPG
And we love her!


Robert B
Beneteau 35s5
NY