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It's a fact!


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Bob Crantz wrote:

It's a fact!


Fricken thing is a cavern inside, at least the 35;

http://www.scanmar-yachts.com/images...20brochure.jpg

Room for a reeeeellyyy big stereo there!

Cheers
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Bob Crantz wrote:

It's a fact!


Fricken thing is a cavern inside, at least the 35;


http://www.scanmar-yachts.com/images...20brochure.jpg

Room for a reeeeellyyy big stereo there!

Cheers
Martin


It's a wonderful vessel. Hand crafted form and fit. Besides unmatched
creature comforts, it is really fast - really, really fast.

Plus it looks like a sailboat, not some bloated plastic appliance. Check out
the hull form and keel - you will see that is one SWEET boat!

What a 35 footer!

Wouldn't you agree?

Amen!

Glory to Scanmar! In the highest!

Amen!


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Plus it looks like a sailboat, not some bloated plastic appliance.
Check out
the hull form and keel - you will see that is one SWEET boat!


The center cockpit on a 35 footer has never worked. Only the small
Moody comes close to pulling it off. It's also slower than the 35s5 and
has a smaller cockpit, no swim platform. It does have the same
excellent Whitlock steering system without stretchy cables!
Good boat, but so few built...only about 40-50 in the USA.


RB

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Plus it looks like a sailboat, not some bloated plastic appliance.
Check out
the hull form and keel - you will see that is one SWEET boat!


The center cockpit on a 35 footer has never worked. Only the small
Moody comes close to pulling it off. It's also slower than the 35s5 and
has a smaller cockpit, no swim platform. It does have the same
excellent Whitlock steering system without stretchy cables!
Good boat, but so few built...only about 40-50 in the USA.


RB

Why must you compare it to your boat? Can't you admire it for what it is?
Not every boat has or needs a swim platform or Whitlock steering.

A properly set up cable system will feel just as good as a Whitlock rack and
pinion system. B-52's fly on cable systems, 600,000 lbs at 600 mph, so do
F-14's at over 2,000 mph pulling 6 g's..

The center cockpit is a personal preference, as is the swim platform. If you
haven't noticed, swim platforms aren't very popular in the Nordic countries.
Nor are scoop sterns unless you like ice water.

Does your boat have a good heater? What kind and how many BTU? How much ice
can it sail through? Is it easy to anchor from the stern? How do the
characteristics of your boat change with heavy, following seas when 8 tons
of seawater flow in and out of your cockpit? That's almost like sailing with
a half flooded bilge.

The premise of all of your posts is that your personal choices are somehow
better than others. For you, maybe, but for others it's their personal
choice that matters, not yours.

But you must admit, that by any independent and objective standard, the
Scanmar is a classic to be admired by all.

Damn, what a nice boat!

Amen!






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The center cockpit on a 35 footer has never worked. Only the small
Moody comes close to pulling it off.


Wrong. There are a number of center cockpit mid-30-foot range boats.

.... It's also slower than the 35s5


Wrong. They're pretty evenly matched.


Good boat, but so few built...only about 40-50 in the USA.


So in other words, it was not a 'well-advertised product'?


Bob Crantz wrote:
Why must you compare it to your boat? Can't you admire it for what it is?
Not every boat has or needs a swim platform or Whitlock steering.

A properly set up cable system will feel just as good as a Whitlock rack and
pinion system. B-52's fly on cable systems, 600,000 lbs at 600 mph, so do
F-14's at over 2,000 mph pulling 6 g's..


Are you sure the F-14 has cable controls? Somehow I didn't picture that
when hearing the phrase "fly-by-wire."


The center cockpit is a personal preference, as is the swim platform. If you
haven't noticed, swim platforms aren't very popular in the Nordic countries.
Nor are scoop sterns unless you like ice water.


I dunno, a fair number of Scandinavian boats seen to have the same
scoops & platforms. Partly due to mass-production, but partly too I bet
many of them dream of sailing off the the Med in their boats.


Does your boat have a good heater? What kind and how many BTU? How much ice
can it sail through? Is it easy to anchor from the stern? How do the
characteristics of your boat change with heavy, following seas when 8 tons
of seawater flow in and out of your cockpit? That's almost like sailing with
a half flooded bilge.


Ahem. Youor premise is faulty. Flooded bilge or not, Boobsy only sails
very short distances and in calm waters.


The premise of all of your posts is that your personal choices are somehow
better than others. For you, maybe, but for others it's their personal
choice that matters, not yours.

But you must admit, that by any independent and objective standard, the
Scanmar is a classic to be admired by all.

Damn, what a nice boat!


Yes it is.

http://www.scanmar-yachts.com/Sc35.html

Scanmar is one of the classy Scandinavian boats that I've admired for
years. A friend bought a Scanmar 33 a few years back, he's loved it.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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The center cockpit on a 35 footer has never worked. Only the small
Moody comes close to pulling it off.



Wrong. There are a number of center cockpit mid-30-foot range boats.


Not wrong at all. Center cockpits in this size range don't look good
and the Scanmar is no exception. We actually considered the Moody and
they saw one in person. Not a pretty boat.

RB

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Good boat, but so few built...only about 40-50 in the USA.


So in other words, it was not a 'well-advertised product'?


No, it's a design that didn't catch on, perhaps for nothing worse than
poor advertising and word of mouth. Either way, it will be tough to
find one locally and even hard to get info and support on it without
some legwork. Take a look on Yachtworld and other sites. They aint easy
to find, It's not an ideal boat by any means.

RB

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Wire rope from cockpit to control surfaces in F-14:

http://news.surfwax.com/military/fil...cat_Plane.html

Calif. couple sentenced in military fraud Jun 8, 2004
Spring Valley-based Supply Depot Inc. sold the military substandard wire
rope to connect wing flaps and rudders to cockpit flight control systems in
the B-1 bomber, F-14 Tomcat and B-52 bomber, according to Carol Lam, the
U.S. attorney in San Diego. The actions by Gerald and Rosemarie Dillon in
1999 and 2000 forced the military to ground the planes, prosecutors said.
(Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA)


Fraudulent sales to military draw sentence Jun 8, 2004
The wire rope at issue was used for a variety of purposes, including as
aircraft cable to connect wing flaps and rudders to cockpit flight control
systems of certain aircraft, including the B-1 Bomber, F-4 Phantom, B-52
Stratofortress and the F-14 Tomcat. The casters fraudulently substituted by
the defendants were approved for use on scaffolding that serviced the B-1
vomber and for use in transporting bombs and fuel tanks to and from military
aircraft, according to the indictment. (San Diego Union-Tribune)


Husband, Wife Sentenced In Federal Fraud Case Jun 8, 2004
The wire rope at issue was used for a variety of purposes, including as
aircraft 000005DC cable to connect wing flaps and rudders to cockpit flight
control systems of certain aircraft, including the B-1 Bomber, F-4 Phantom,
B-52 Stratofortress and the F-14 Tomcat. According to the indictment, the
fraudulent casters were approved for use on scaffolding that serviced the
B-1 bomber and for use in transporting bombs and fuel tanks to and from
military aircraft. (NBCSandiego.com, CA)




 
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