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Mooron has correctly pointed out that his vessel is better in heavy
conditions and certainly she has an edge in survival conditions. But on
most days the 35s5 will be faster, higher pointing and generally more
fun to sail...just as a C&C 115 would be even MORE fun!

But we bought the 35s5 to sail mostly in the protected waters of the
LIS with our new son who will be a year and a half old when he steps
aboard his new yacht.
He'll have his own cabin, a place for his soft toys and wonderful music
when he's below deck. On deck he'll be in a truly huge cockpit and with
mom's help, have access to the slick swim platform. Forward he'll have
a clean deck to tread on, free of lines and gear.
Back in the slip on a hot day, we'll have the 19'000 BTU air
conditioning. On a 92 degree day it kept the whole interior cool with
the hatches open. Sweet.
The aft cabin is sized for adults...a rare thing in a 35 foot boat.

Was there a better choice? You bet. The C&C 99 fit the bill. But with
plans for a much larger boat for living aboard 5 years off, it didn't
make sense to spend more than twice the cost of the 35s5, which is a
more comfortable boat.

35s5...35.5 feet LOA, FAST boat, beautiful interior, aft cabin, swim
platform, huge cockpit, clean decks, no serious record of problems...a
sweet boat!

Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5
NY

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--
"Swab Rob" wrote
Back in the slip on a hot day, we'll have


Back?

Bwahahahahahahah

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This is great Rob!

Why not tell us about the wonderful life of your family - all the free time
you have together, the relaxed pace of living, the freedom from fighting for
a day to day wage, the fullfillment of the highest needs.

You wouldn't want anyone to get the impression that your fine vessel is
simply an escape mechanism from a hellish existence would you?

Those night shifts for Suzy and your diaper duty must be rough!

Bwaahaahahahahahahahahahaaa!

Amen!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mooron has correctly pointed out that his vessel is better in heavy
conditions and certainly she has an edge in survival conditions. But on
most days the 35s5 will be faster, higher pointing and generally more
fun to sail...just as a C&C 115 would be even MORE fun!

But we bought the 35s5 to sail mostly in the protected waters of the
LIS with our new son who will be a year and a half old when he steps
aboard his new yacht.
He'll have his own cabin, a place for his soft toys and wonderful music
when he's below deck. On deck he'll be in a truly huge cockpit and with
mom's help, have access to the slick swim platform. Forward he'll have
a clean deck to tread on, free of lines and gear.
Back in the slip on a hot day, we'll have the 19'000 BTU air
conditioning. On a 92 degree day it kept the whole interior cool with
the hatches open. Sweet.
The aft cabin is sized for adults...a rare thing in a 35 foot boat.

Was there a better choice? You bet. The C&C 99 fit the bill. But with
plans for a much larger boat for living aboard 5 years off, it didn't
make sense to spend more than twice the cost of the 35s5, which is a
more comfortable boat.

35s5...35.5 feet LOA, FAST boat, beautiful interior, aft cabin, swim
platform, huge cockpit, clean decks, no serious record of problems...a
sweet boat!

Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5
NY

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Those night shifts for Suzy and your diaper duty must be rough!


Being Americans, we don't mind a bit of work. Suzanne went to school
for 3 years to become a nurse in critical care. I continue to work as a
media monitor 4 hours a day...it pays better than most people make
working 12 hour days! Sailing is not an escape, Bob. It's an extention
of one's self. If you haven't learned that by now you probably never
will. And if changing your own child's diaper scares you, you probably
aren't real American stock anyway.

RB
First 35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Those night shifts for Suzy and your diaper duty must be rough!


Being Americans, we don't mind a bit of work.

That's right! You are good for 4 hours a day while Suzy slugs out 12 hour
shifts! That averages out 8 hours each per day! Note the use of the word
"we".



Suzanne went to school
for 3 years to become a nurse in critical care.

At her age this raises a red flag. What did she do before that?



I continue to work as a
media monitor 4 hours a day...it pays better than most people make
working 12 hour days!

Oh this is good:

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Sailing is not an escape, Bob. It's an extention
of one's self.

You couldn't be more correct:

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Late last night I got a call from a friend who races a J29. She was
upstate looking after a sick parent and was worried that she had left
her boat in a poor state. I drove out to the boat and found that she
had actually done a good job of closing the boat up. I walked up to the
bow and treated myself to a quiet half hour.
Watching the flat water, the gentle kiss of occasional swells against
the hull I thought of Neal. This serenity was a daily treat for him
because he chose to be a liveaboard. He'd made the ultimate commitment
to his love of the sea by tossing aside the complications we all deem
conveniences and necessities. He chose a simple, stout boat that would
do exactly what he needed and no more. He knew there were better boats,
but that "better" was an abstraction sold in catalogues and TV jingles.
He understood that anyone could bring the complexities of live ashore
to sea, but at a terrible cost and no benefit.
No, Neal understood a sailors life. Basic. Simple. Unassuming. To be a
sailor, one must become a of Monk of sorts and anything else obstructs
the beauty of wind and sail. Neal built his own world, a honorable feat
of self reliance. In the end he could make decisions and observations
as any advanced lifeform (observing from deep space) might.
If this sounds like a farewell, perhaps it is. Neal may still be with
us, but people...sailors like him are disappearing fast, absorbed into
a world of Starbucks and rising real estate. In a quagmire of
insatiable consumption, Neal chose sailing.
For that, above and beyond anything else, he deserves respect.

He has mine.


Robert B
(Boatless, but not for long!)
NY


So tell us about all the accesories, playpens, air conditioning, etc on your
boat?


If you haven't learned that by now you probably never
will.

Who says I haven't? You?


And if changing your own child's diaper scares you, you probably
aren't real American stock anyway.

If one makes as much money as you, ever think of hiring a full time nanny?

"I'd love to, and I have a few friends begging me to do it. The problem
is that Suzanne is working and we have Thomas, who's 13 months old.
Suzanne works nights. It's just not possible for me to be gone for two
weeks and of little financial advantage either. I'm sure I'm missing
out, but the timing is all wrong."

RB

Why not just decide to not buy a boat and spend more time with your family?
Which is more important?



RB
First 35s5
NY

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for 3 years to become a nurse in critical care.


At her age this raises a red flag. What did she do before that?



She was a copywriter. She's now working in critical care which is a
pretty amazing job.

RB

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And if changing your own child's diaper scares you, you probably
aren't real American stock anyway.


If one makes as much money as you, ever think of hiring a full time
nanny?


What for? We're both home all day long 7 days per week. The whole point
is to be home for him, not pawn him off on some nanny.

RB

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"Bob Crantz" wrote

Those night shifts for Suzy and your diaper duty must be rough!


Ahhhh, diaper duty. I remember changing a few, course I was 25 at
the time. Wonder when the kid will start calling Bob,
''gramps''?

''Old timer''?

Scotty

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Nutsy,

I don't think Thomas will ever step on a NEW yacht as long as he live
with you. It will always be an OLD, USED Yacht




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

I don't think Thomas will ever step on a NEW yacht as long as
he live
with you.


Maybe Suzie will wise up and leave in time.


It will always be an OLD, USED Yacht


Just like the OLD USED DAD.


Hee hee
Scotty

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I don't think Thomas will ever step on a NEW yacht as long as he live
with you. It will always be an OLD, USED Yacht


Well, I own one of the newest boats here. And we are planning to buy a
very recent boat, such as a Beneteau 50 something less than 5 years old
for our liveaboard. Not new...but reasonably modern.
Do you feel it's important for Thomas to have a new boat?

RB

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Well, I own one of the newest boats here. And we are planning to
buy a very recent boat, such as a Beneteau 50 something less than 5
years old

Crap, he hasen't even got the present one and he's already posting
about the next one. Personally I think when you move into the 50 foot
range you should be looking at something better than a Beneteau. I
guess they have 7 foot bunks and a great swim platform.

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Personally I think when you move into the 50 foot
range you should be looking at something better than a Beneteau.


Loco, Beneteau has a semi-custom line of boats in that size range which
are a very high build spec.

http://www.beneteauusa.com/sail/curr.../523_intro.php

RB

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The big Bendys make great dock condos.


"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, I own one of the newest boats here. And we are
planning to
buy a very recent boat, such as a Beneteau 50 something less
than 5
years old

Crap, he hasen't even got the present one and he's already
posting
about the next one. Personally I think when you move into the
50 foot
range you should be looking at something better than a
Beneteau. I
guess they have 7 foot bunks and a great swim platform.

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The big Bendys make great dock condos.


You've never been aboard one of the Flagship series, Scotty Potty. They
are very fast sailing designs and are nothing like the Oceanus series.
Look at this! I'm trying to tell a guy with a Siedlemann about
boats!!!! Kinda like talking about stage 3 exhausts with a guy who owns
a Kia.

Sigh....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

RB

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Pipe down moron, I was talking to Loco, one boat owner to
another. That leaves you out.

Scotty


--
"Swab Rob" wrote
The big Bendys make great dock condos.



Look at this! I'm trying to tell a guy who owns a boat about
boats!!!! Kinda like talking about sailboats with a guy who
owns
one.

Sigh....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

RB, boatless, clueless, and classless.

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pe down moron, I was talking to Loco, one boat owner to
another. That leaves you out.


Bad news coming your way, Scotty Potty!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha!

RB

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Nutsy,

Thomas could care less! It's his Daddy. Nutsy there is nothing like
stepping aboard; "Your own new boat!" New, everything new. New lines,
new Sails, new winches, new head, new bilge pump, new fresh water tank
with new pumps and plumbing. New Electric panel and wiring, New standing
rigging;---- everything new and un-used.

Hope some day you'll discover that day! In the mean time, I'll wish you
well with your grand plan of obsolescence. Anything that gets you your
own vessel and out on the water is worth while. I hope 2006 will see you
sailing once again.

Ole Thom




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

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Thomas could care less! It's his Daddy. Nutsy there is nothing like
stepping aboard; "Your own new boat!" New, everything new.


I don't agree, Thom. New boats are generally a bad investment and a lot
of hassle to get ready. Even my wealthiest friends prefer a lightly use
boat loaded with nice gear and debugged along with a market value
either increasing or holding. It's no different than real estate. We
made 4K on the Pearson and 16K on the C&C 32. I'll make 15-20K on the
Beneteau. Buy low and sell high...and go sailing the whole time!

RB

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Even my wealthiest friends ..............................

Roflmao!

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Even my wealthiest friends ..............................


Roflmao!


Really? Don't you have any wealthy freinds? My buddy with the Tayana 48
(now looking for a Ted Hood 51) is doing well I think...but he'll still
buy used if possible.
I hope you didn't buy that Depressed 30 new!

RB