In article , Vito
wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:41:58 -0400, "Vito" said:

Gee, you're right Dave. It's crazy to assume that any local authority
looked
at each person before turning them over to Americans or that some
American
authority did the same before flying each one to Gitmo then feeding,
clothing and sheltering them, some for years.

No, Vito, that's not the problem. It's nonsense to characterize that kind
of
"looking at" as a hearing. And it insults your readers' intelligence to
expect them to be fooled by such transparent sophistry.

One cannot impose the Anglo-American court system on other cultures. A man I
knew got drunk and wrecked his car in Mexico. The was tried under Mexican
law and sent to prison without being asked to testify or even see the inside
of the courtroom. The Judge felt he had all the info needed to convict
without it. When his relatives complained the US Government told them tough
****. If you don't like Mexican law then don't do crimes in Mexico. I
understand that France, Italy, Spain and other democracies are the same.

Dunno, but Indonesia does. If you're involved in a traffic accident and
are a Westerner driving, it's automatically your fault, as if you
hadn't been in the country, the accident couldn't have hapened.

Fortunately local drivers are dirt cheap and then you don't need to
find a parking space in places like Jakarta.

One might argue that we shouldn't have intervened at all - that we should
have let the Afghans kill him - and in light of current events I'd have to
agree. Perhaps we should simply put the lot of them to death, but imagine
the howls from the bleeding-heart do gooders then.

Probably, but not from people like me. Australia currently has one
citizen facing execution for drug smuggling in Singapore, and likely
another 9 facing the same penalty in Indonesia. Tough ****, everyone
knows the penalties and some of them were caught in Customs &
Immigration on the way out of the country with the drugs strapped to
them, captured on full video. Stupidity like that should be a capital
offense.

Do you think we should
let them go?

Let *who* go? The guys in Gitmo? Sure. Either that or charge them.
Look, I could easily construct a scenario for people like David Hicks
where he would have a defensible case for being where he was and doing
whatever he was supposed to have done. I don't know the why's and
wherefores.

The *point* is - you guys won't allow him to challenge his detention in
an open court. That's wrong.

PDW