However I *am* claiming (because it is a fact) that there is NO law
saying it's OK to hold prisoners indefinitely,....


Vito wrote:
You're right. Nowhere will we find "it's OK to hold ...etc." What we do
find is rules that say "I the prisoner meets certain criteria he cannot be
held ... etc." The detainees at Gitmo do not neet these criteria. Ergo they
can be held.


Interesting, how you had to snip off the remainder of my statement, so
it would fit your hallucinations.

If the Gitmo prisoners have been given the equivalent of hearings, then
why is the military going to the expense & trouble of granting (at least
some of) them tribunals? Hmmm? If they've already had them, they can
just wave the paperwork and say, "See, all done!"

In other words, you're full of crap. You won't learn and you won't shut
up. Why don't you go work on your boat?

DSK

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:46:20 -0500, Vito wrote:


"Unlucky schmuck" is a bit of a stretch yourself. We are only holding a
tiny percent of captives at Gitmo - those suspicious enough and valuable
enough to be worth the bother. The average Taliban grunt doesn't go there
much less unlucky schmucks. It's too expensive.

I'm not sure about that. Several of those held at Gitmo were under
fifteen.

"DSK" wrote
It does not at all prove that any country is allowed to just grab people
at random and hold them prisoner indefinitely, with no due process.

But Doug, nobody is grabbing people at random. We are being selective.

Do you know how many laws there are? I bet you're breaking a large
number of them right now.

Probably - but not in Afghanistan.

Maybe so. And if you were grabbed off the street & tossed in jail with
no chance to prove you *weren't* fighing for the Taliban, you'd be
pretty PO'd.


Yup! If I were grabbed off the streets of Richmond, Va. or even Sydney or
London I'd feel really picked on. OTOH if I went to Kabul .....

"thunder" wrote

I'm not sure about that. Several of those held at Gitmo were under
fifteen.

15 is old in those countries. Daniel Boone and Jesse Chisolm were under 15
when they did their things.

"DSK" wrote
Or don't **** off your neighbor who might work for the CIA, and hold
enough of a grudge to drag you in.

You bet! And not just CIA. Look what happened to David Koresh ... or JFK for
that matter.

"DSK" wrote
If the Gitmo prisoners have been given the equivalent of hearings, then
why is the military going to the expense & trouble of granting (at least
some of) them tribunals? Hmmm? If they've already had them, they can
just wave the paperwork and say, "See, all done!"

Maybe the few being given hearings, et., have seen the error of their ways
and are ready to go home?