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Capt. Rob October 16th 05 03:41 AM

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Flew to St. Petersburg this morning and the deal is done, then she'll
be trucked back after decomissioning. Her condition is superb. There's
not a scratch on her deck, hull or anywhere. The interior looks
amazing, just about new. She's got full canvas, great mylar sails, tons
of extras ice-cold 19'000 BTU AC and even the ports are not crazed
because they've always had canvas covers. Electronics are really slick
and the Whitlock steering blows away cable based systems. Deck was dry
as a bone. Just about perfect. Went for a one hour sail (I only had 6
hours total before flying back), and the boat's a blast. We close
November 20th when we all fly back.

Ladies and gentleman...our new boat, the Beneteau 35s5...

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg

RB


Thom Stewart October 16th 05 04:37 AM

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Nutsy,

A nice looking vessel. If it is or isn't yours. It's nice.

Thom


thunder October 16th 05 05:59 AM

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On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:41:38 -0700, Capt. Rob wrote:


http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg


Rob, understand me, I'm not trying to badmouth your boat. It's probably
just me, but does anyone else think she looks a little down in the bow?

rgnmstr October 16th 05 06:50 AM

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I am not making this up. An honest to God cut and paste from a review
of the Beneteau 35s5 posted on a Beneteau website from the owner of one
of these boats. The Boobster should fit right in with this crowd.

Sailing characterisitcs: Don't really understand the question.
Motoring characterisitcs: Runs at its best at 2700 RPM 6.5 knots

Notice that the guy posting the review knows nothing about the sailing
characterisits of his boat but leaves a very detailed comment about how
the boat motors. I'm ROFLMAO!


Capt. Rob October 16th 05 11:26 AM

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Nutsy,


A nice looking vessel. If it is or isn't yours. It's nice.


It's ours, Thom. Thanks. We did a ton of research and looked at 5 of
them to find the right one. She's in bristol shape and literally looks
a few years old on deck and below. She sails FAST and I'm in love with
the whitlock steering. I had no idea that it would be so superior to
the cable based wheels, like my old edsons. It's almost life having the
feel of a tiller.

RB


Capt. Rob October 16th 05 11:45 AM

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Actually, Loco...he writes "Very responsive in light air as well as
heavy."


Other comments:
"Speed, speed, speed. Comfort in difficult conditions. Great cockpit."

"Sails well in all conditions, typical wind conditions from 8K to 35K
in Resurection Bay. Easy to single-hand. Sleeps 6 comfortably and
parties 20+. Lots of 2 week cruises in Gulf of Alaska and Kenai Fjords.
Great Cruising!"

"Best sail in a steady 35K with a bulletproof 110 and 2 reefs in the
main. The surge under a 1.5oz chute and 12-15K is something else."

"Very, very liveabl. I'm 6'4+ and the headroom is much better than in
other vessels I've sailed. A very comfort- able, seaworth and dry
boat."

"Speed: She's very fast for a production boat. Under sail, she's
virtually untouchable."

"mostly club racing and day sailing along the coast of southern
california. Typically 10-15 knots, occasionally 20 knots. This boat
simply loves the open sea. She cuts through 5-6'swells like a knife
cutting through butter. Sails up wind like with style and great speed.
Points around 27-28 degrees(with the new sails)"

And my favorite, from an owner I contacted in California...

"For a racer, she a lot of fun and will always do well once you learn
the boat's strengths. Downwind can be tricky, especially for the wing.
On the other hand the wing is faster on a close reach every time. I
agree with you that the 35s5 might be just about perfect for a family
boat, but not racing her would be a shame. You're about to enter a
whole new world of sailing with a 35s5. We previously owned a fairly
tricked out S2 9.1 and we now race against her. The 35s5 eats that boat
for breakfast. We also beat the J105's boat for boat at times. Of
course the whole point is that the 35s5 does all this and then has one
of the best, nicely finished interiors and certainly nicer than the
latest Beneteau's. I've attached a pic of Samantha for your website.
Please let the group know when it's up an running."


RB


Capt. Rob October 16th 05 11:49 AM

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From what I've seen of you past 'sailing' you'll need one behind that
wheel to sit on......or are you actually gonna learn to sail!?


Nahhh! She's got a great big feathering propeller and air conditioning!

RB


Capt. Rob October 16th 05 12:56 PM

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That's the way Sport, but get rid of the feathering prop....you'll get
better speed and fuel economy


Yup, plus we'll keep those silly mylar sails below decks to reduce
windage!

RB


jlrogers October 16th 05 01:37 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
That's the way Sport, but get rid of the feathering prop....you'll get
better speed and fuel economy


Yup, plus we'll keep those silly mylar sails below decks to reduce
windage!

RB


Now that, I do believe.



Scotty October 16th 05 04:05 PM

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You really like her looks, Thom?

I think it's ugly. Reminds me of a bigger Mac 26X.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

A nice looking vessel. If it is or isn't yours. It's nice.

Thom




Joe October 16th 05 04:41 PM

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Its a good looking boat from the hull down, A bit boxey looking above
decks IMO, The sharp angle of the forward cabin looks done on the
cheap. Nice wheel.

Joe


jlrogers October 16th 05 04:52 PM

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Love your rationalizations for owning a Benny TU. ****tzoid of the Year
Award.



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Flew to St. Petersburg this morning and the deal is done, then she'll
be trucked back after decomissioning. Her condition is superb. There's
not a scratch on her deck, hull or anywhere. The interior looks
amazing, just about new. She's got full canvas, great mylar sails, tons
of extras ice-cold 19'000 BTU AC and even the ports are not crazed
because they've always had canvas covers. Electronics are really slick
and the Whitlock steering blows away cable based systems. Deck was dry
as a bone. Just about perfect. Went for a one hour sail (I only had 6
hours total before flying back), and the boat's a blast. We close
November 20th when we all fly back.

Ladies and gentleman...our new boat, the Beneteau 35s5...

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg

RB




Capt. Rob October 16th 05 06:34 PM

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Love your rationalizations for owning a Benny TU. ****tzoid of the
Year
Award.

What do you know about the 32s5 and 35s5? I doubt you know how they
differ from most of the other Beneteau's or why they were the most
expensive per foot from the builder, so much so that they had a tough
time selling them here. How about the beautiful interiors that were
made overseas, then shipped here for assembly? Know anything about the
excellent hull/deck joint of the 35s5?
The fit and finish of this particular line is very high and the boat
has very few weaknesses. We came close on the C&C 37 and a few others.
There was no real competition, especially after the test sails.
Get back to me when you own a boat that can get out it's own way.

Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 16th 05 08:49 PM

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Its a good looking boat from the hull down, A bit boxey looking above
decks IMO, The sharp angle of the forward cabin looks done on the
cheap. Nice wheel.



I think the cabin trunk is carried a bit too far forward, though it
pays off below deck. The odd windows bothered me at first, like the
ones on the baby Swan, but they make sense. Below it feels bright and
airy. Sidedecks are quite good, though not the best I've seen. The
cockpit is simply huge...amazingly so and the swim platform is very
nice, not tiny like most others. The starboard saillocker in the
cockpit is the biggest I've ever seen. Room for sails, a dinghy and
more. Part of the space was a 3rd cabin in an alternate layout. The
port locker is shallow, with the aft cabin just below it. All halyards
are led below deck and the furler is also below deck. Nice and
uncluttered if you watch the lines for wear. Everything feels stiff and
solid. Stanchions feel like their set in cement...great!
Below deck is headroom for me...amazing! She doesn't have the volume of
a fat Catalina or Hunter but the sense of luxury and fit and finsih is
far higher. The aft cabin is just under 7 feet...fantastic! The nav
station table is pretty large, but the bar-stool for it isn't the best
idea. The head is huge, room for people with long legs and plenty of
room for a proper shower. Sink has huge storage below and a good wet
locker aft of that. The V is also quite large. Storage is plentiful if
oddly placed at times.
The galley is typical, propane/electric combo, the fridge is a bit
small. Lighting is excellent. There is LED floor lighting so you can
move around with killing night vision. Halogen lights for anchoring or
the slip are very bright.
Under sail...well, this is what it's all about. The boat is FAST,
accelerates straight off and is just a blast. The R&P steering is light
years better than cable systems. She tracks well, better than I had
expected and isn't a bear when trim is off. Tweaking pays off right
away. The feeling of speed is heightened after a tack because she's
back at speed so quickly. The feel of the wheel helps a lot,
trasmitting tiller like feedback. I never realized how numb cable
steered boats were. Seated behind the wheel, visibility is challenged,
so a padded seat will be added. The aft section was made so you could
stand and steer from there as well.
She's really well done. Fast and Fun and quite comfortable.

Some other views of the 35s5..
http://www.comunidaddebarcos.com/fot...o2%20aitxe.JPG
http://www.comunidaddebarcos.com//fo...o3%20aitxe.JPG



Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5
NY


Capt. Neal® October 16th 05 10:02 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Flew to St. Petersburg this morning and the deal is done, then she'll
| be trucked back after decomissioning. Her condition is superb. There's
| not a scratch on her deck, hull or anywhere. The interior looks
| amazing, just about new. She's got full canvas, great mylar sails, tons
| of extras ice-cold 19'000 BTU AC and even the ports are not crazed
| because they've always had canvas covers. Electronics are really slick
| and the Whitlock steering blows away cable based systems. Deck was dry
| as a bone. Just about perfect. Went for a one hour sail (I only had 6
| hours total before flying back), and the boat's a blast. We close
| November 20th when we all fly back.
|
| Ladies and gentleman...our new boat, the Beneteau 35s5...
|
| http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg
|
| RB


You brag about "moving up" and getting a "larger" boat. But, . . .

You can't seem to get a larger boat can you? Subtract three feet
that the useless, ugly, sugar scoop transom takes up and you have
yet another 32-foot boat. Once a sucker always a sucker.

Why, I bet my Coronado 27 has about as much livable space inside
the accomadation as your French fry - or should I say "small fry?"

CN

Capt. Neal® October 16th 05 10:04 PM

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"thunder" wrote in message ...
| On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:41:38 -0700, Capt. Rob wrote:
|
|
| http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg
|
| Rob, understand me, I'm not trying to badmouth your boat. It's probably
| just me, but does anyone else think she looks a little down in the bow?

Down *by* the bow is how a sailor says it . . .

CN

Capt. Neal® October 17th 05 12:05 AM

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"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message ...
| On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:04:14 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote:
|
|
| "thunder" wrote in message ...
| | On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:41:38 -0700, Capt. Rob wrote:
| |
| |
| | http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg
| |
| | Rob, understand me, I'm not trying to badmouth your boat. It's probably
| | just me, but does anyone else think she looks a little down in the bow?
|
| Down *by* the bow is how a sailor says it . . .
|
| CN
|
| So... How do YOU say it then?


Being an erudite sailor I say it "down by the bows" (After all there are both the
port and starboard bow!)

See, I'm way too smart to get caught in your little trap. ;-)

CN


Capt. Neal® October 17th 05 12:42 AM

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"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message ...
| On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:05:19 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote:
|
|
| "Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message ...
| | On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:04:14 -0400, Capt. Neal® wrote:
| |
| |
| | "thunder" wrote in message ...
| | | On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:41:38 -0700, Capt. Rob wrote:
| | |
| | |
| | | http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/webbsp.jpg
| | |
| | | Rob, understand me, I'm not trying to badmouth your boat. It's probably
| | | just me, but does anyone else think she looks a little down in the bow?
| |
| | Down *by* the bow is how a sailor says it . . .
| |
| | CN
| |
| | So... How do YOU say it then?
|
|
| Being an erudite sailor I say it "down by the bows" (After all there are both the
| port and starboard bow!)
|
| See, I'm way too smart to get caught in your little trap. ;-)
|
| CN
|
| You fell in anyway! See if you can figure out how...
|
|
| Captain Joe Redcloud

How do you say it then?

*it* Do I get a gold star?

CN


Scotty October 17th 05 02:44 AM

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Perhaps her holding tank is forward and like boobsy is full of
****.



"Capt. Neal®" wrote in
|
| Rob, understand me, I'm not trying to badmouth your boat.

It's probably
| just me, but does anyone else think she looks a little down

in the bow?

Down *by* the bow is how a sailor says it . . .

CN




Scotty October 17th 05 02:46 AM

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A bit boxey is being nice. It has a Buck Rogers' spaceship look
to it.

SBV


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Its a good looking boat from the hull down, A bit boxey looking

above
decks IMO, The sharp angle of the forward cabin looks done on

the
cheap. Nice wheel.

Joe




rgnmstr October 17th 05 04:04 AM

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The Boob said: Its a good looking boat from the hull down, A bit
boxey looking above decks IMO..

You see all this time what he really wanted was an Express.


Thom Stewart October 17th 05 05:41 AM

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Neal,

A real "Salt" would say; "By the Bow" Any sailor would know the Bow
consist of the point where the Port and Starboard sides come together;
At The Front of the vessel, ONE BOW per vessel on a monohull, be it
Scow, Spoon. Clipper, Etc.

By the Bow, Meaning lower than its design lines.

I, too, am not fond of the " Windows" but I don't believe there will be
any delamination problem as with Core Construction,

Nutsy? Why lie with pictures? Every one Knows it's not New. You get
caught more often than note. You like the Boat you got;------ then screw
the ASA Discussion Group. Don't show you insecurity! I'm happy for
you!!!

Remember, when you put Thomas to sleep; make love on the "Centerline"
that off-set Quarter Cabin will "ROCK THE BOAT!" Let the Kid get his
sleep. :^)

OT


Capt. Rob October 17th 05 10:43 AM

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Nutsy? Why lie with pictures? Every one Knows it's not New. You get

caught more often than note. You like the Boat you got;------ then
screw
the ASA Discussion Group. Don't show you insecurity! I'm happy for
you!!!

Thanks, Thom. She's a slick boat. No lies with pictures. The boat is
listed on Yachtworld, along with the one in NJ that didn't pass my
survey. The exterior picture I posted is taken with my Nikon D70 and
isn't on any website, so Stevie made an ass of himself again.
The owner is 73 years old and has won an amazing amount of silver. He's
still racing his Tartan 10, which he finds easier because she has flush
decks. This was his second 35s5.
The beauty of this particular boat is that she was never raced until
the last 11 months. She's really well loaded and the mylar sails and
air conditioning are a nice bonus. The boat looks barely used as you'll
see when I post more pics. We also got her for a really sweet price.
The rotten part is that she's in Florida and it's a drag getting her
decommissioned. I'm trying to reduce my trips there, though I'll have
to fly back November 19th for family business. Anyway...very happy..we
found our boat!

Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5
NY


NotPony October 17th 05 11:25 AM

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11 months ago? How do you explain the fact that
it lost to a Hunter 28 and two J30's in 2001?

S.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
: Nutsy? Why lie with pictures? Every one Knows
it's not New. You get
:
: caught more often than note. You like the Boat
you got;------ then
: screw
: the ASA Discussion Group. Don't show you
insecurity! I'm happy for
: you!!!

: The beauty of this particular boat is that she
was never raced until
: the last 11 months.

: Robert B
: Beneteau First 35s5
: NY
:


Capt. Rob October 17th 05 12:01 PM

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11 months ago? How do you explain the fact that
it lost to a Hunter 28 and two J30's in 2001?


There's racing and then there's RACING. The boat was never seriously
campaigned. Her current owner races a Tartan 10 against other Tartan
10's. Real racing, with new sails bought often, latest gear added and a
boat driven hard. Do you know the difference? There isn't a even ONE
gelcoat crack anywhere. Every aspect of her rig looks just about new.
It's really bugging you that I once again have a nicer boat...only this
time it's MUCH nicer! Her condition is something to behold as the pics
will show. And she has a real interior rather than the el-crapo Depress
30 interior.
So you came all the way back to ASA to show off your green dragon? Nice
job!!

RB


Scotty October 17th 05 12:37 PM

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....
11 months ago? How do you explain the fact that
it lost to a Hunter 28 and two J30's in 2001?




--
"Swab Rob" wrote ,,
I lied.





Capt. Rob October 17th 05 01:21 PM

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Why reel them in when they just jump into the boat!!!



Robert B
C&C 99
City Island, NY


rgnmstr October 17th 05 02:33 PM

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How do you explain the fact that it lost to a Hunter 28 and two
J30's in 2001?

When the Boob starts his Wednesday night fun you'll be able to add a
Flicka 20 to the list.


Capt. Rob October 17th 05 03:35 PM

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How do you explain the fact that it lost to a Hunter 28 and two
J30's in 2001?


When the Boob starts his Wednesday night fun you'll be able to add a
Flicka 20 to the list.


Ahhh, ANY well sailed boat can win a PHRF race. Cape Dory Typhoon can
win against a J35 in adjusted time. But when they're both sailed to
Port Jeff....The J35 will still get their 1st!


Robert B
Beneteau FIRST 35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 18th 05 07:45 PM

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It has a Buck Rogers' spaceship look
to it.

Hmmmmm...maybe!
http://www.culttvman.com/assets/imag...terbuck004.jpg


RB



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