"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
"meow"

is that more to your liking?

Joe


Much better than the slurping sounds you make sucking netKKKop dick.

CN

Sound small?

Here this will suit you :



: Yeah right OK now! - How many of you fukz have me KF'd huh?!? If you
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My suggestion is to completely study Leland. They are the
greatest of cum. People like him have tried successfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
deep throte
them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. And call me whore
they have nothing.


jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
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"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a nice guy of the highest order. Study the
geniousnow and forever. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been blessed.*please"


bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
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Do the entire world a favor and REPOST YOURSELF ON USENET ALTOGETHER,
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"I went to the ****pile of Hate,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Turd Steaming in the midst,
Where I used to **** on my green.


And the Steam of this Turd were like smoke
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the steam;
So I turned to the ****pile of Hate
That so many foul Turds bore.


And I saw it was filled with ****,
And Flowers where tombstones should be;
And worms and black clowns were walking their hounds,
And binding with balls my joys and desires."


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"When yo Momma has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
retards from all places, creeps and coons shall put their faith in
seeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
The Gay as Ganz
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of eggplants

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Yawn

There you go Nellie! That should be enough retarded assanine waste of
space to make you think Im a really Big Man now..

Right ?

JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?


What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.


I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Mooron's ISP told him who ratted on him. It was the gay one.

Joe

"Wally" wrote in message
. uk...
JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?

I don't know. I would think that a marginal complaint could be something
like... "does this behavior (insert behavior) violate your TOS... it's not
clear" or something like that.

What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason to
complain? Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated the
"regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to ignore their
regulations because of me?

I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Not saying I did. I'm saying that it's between him and his ISP.

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone
of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but
I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.

I do. Do you understand the fundamental difference between what is and what
is not a violation of Mooron's TOS? I don't know what Mooron's situation is,
especially with respect to his ISP or their policies. I would suggest that
Mooron is the one who needs to determine the importance of his internet
connection, not I.

"JG" wrote in message ...
"Wally" wrote in message
. uk...
JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?

I don't know. I would think that a marginal complaint could be something
like... "does this behavior (insert behavior) violate your TOS... it's not
clear" or something like that.

What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason to
complain? Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated the
"regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to ignore their
regulations because of me?

I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Not saying I did. I'm saying that it's between him and his ISP.

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone
of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but
I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.

I do. Do you understand the fundamental difference between what is and what
is not a violation of Mooron's TOS? I don't know what Mooron's situation is,
especially with respect to his ISP or their policies. I would suggest that
Mooron is the one who needs to determine the importance of his internet
connection, not I.


You obviously decided it was important enough to you to try and get him
kicked off because you were upset because he got the better of you in
every exchange of posts. So what are you doing saying Mooron needs to
determine the importance of his connection when you are trying to do
the determining with your abuse complaints?

Ganz, you've got to be the biggest asshole ever . . .

CN

JG wrote:

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason
to complain?

There was no reason to complain, you hypocrite. He was doing nothing worse
than you've done countless times.


... Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated
the "regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to
ignore their regulations because of me?

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.

"utterly *vile*."

BINGO!

Gaynzy wrote: but so far
the only "proof" Mooron has offered is his own statement that I made a
complaint.


And then Gary L. Burnore wrote:
Need more? Let me know and I'll post proof you did.


Post the proof! Post the proof! Post the proof! Post the proof!
--
Captain Lon

"Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson


"Gary L. Burnore" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:33:11 -0700, "JG"
wrote:

"Wally" wrote in message
.uk...
I have refused to follow the recommendations of my ISP and file
counter complaints.... since I have accepted the terms of engagement
on this group.

I don't know if counter-claims would work. While I would weigh them up
as
a
tactical option, I would be tempted to avoid using them on principle.
For
me, the arena is here, and not some nefarious back-stabbing crap
conducted
in email between self and opponent's service provider. That BBS network
I
talked about in my post to Neal - it was heavily moderated and
completely
unlike usenet, but a good thing about it was that all moderation,
hearing
of
complaints, and bootings/reconcilliations were done in public for the
entire
network to see.

I'm not certain how to comment on this.

Because you do it all the time


It seems to me that if I made a
false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP, it would be up
to
the ISP to either dismiss it out of hand or to use their best judgement
about how to react.


Is that why you send DOZENS of false complaints?


Most ISPs respect the privacy of both the person
complaining and the person being complained against. Of course, there's
nothing that either party can do about it if they don't do that, but so
far
the only "proof" Mooron has offered is his own statement that I made a
complaint.


Need more? Let me know and I'll post proof you did.


In any case, whether I did or not, it's still up to his ISP to
take it seriously or not.

So you:

A. Admit sending it.
B. Admit knowing it was frivolous.
3. Are a ****ing NetKKKop.




I firmly believe that to blindly state that I am guilty of violations
of my TOS is a rather narrow minded and short sighted accusation....
based on the letter of the law rather than the intent.

I haven't been making statements about you, but about Neal's declared
deliberate stepping outside his provider's TOS (now softened to 'almost'
stepping outside it and being booted due to weight of complaint
numbers).
As
I say, I haven't been aware of what your telling me here (kinda saw the
posts but wasn't really following what was going on).


To quote my ISP... "although we agree with your position, our hands
are tied by the regulations"... sums up what they think of the
complaints forwarded to them from Jonathan.

I wonder if Jonathan would care to comment on this? In my view, this
situation has gone beyond the "I can neither confirm nor deny" line. If
it's
true, he's completely out of order.

I have never heard of an ISP claiming such a thing. What regulations? I've
had complaints lodged against me in the past. My ISP looks at the rules
they've set down, looks at the situation, and makes a determination based
on
their assessment. For example, at one point many months ago, my ISP got in
touch with me about a large volume of email that was coming from my shell
account with them. This was a clear violation of my TOS. I was mystified,
since I don't usually use my shell account for email and certain not for
large volumes of it. We both agreed that something needed to be done
immediately, and they put suspended my outgoing email service for a couple
of hours while the investigation ensued. It turned out that I made a
scripting error and multiple emails were being sent for every one
received.


Turns out you were spamming.


This is also a clear violation of my TOS, since I'm completely responsible
for scripts I create. They found the problem, called me back (I was out of
town on business), explained the problem, created a temporary fix for me,
then restarted my email.

There was another situation that happened years ago that was even worse.
It
was when spam first started become a real problem and there we no elegant
solutions. I sent a spam report to PSI (large backbone).

PSI was NEVER a large backbone, dumbass.

[snip more lies]

I stand righteous in my indignation..... so don't paint this canvas
in black and white... and do not talk down to me from a precarious
perch of pretensions.

I can assure that there is no intention for my opinions to come across
as
pretentious. I understand your predicament, but I do still see it as
black
and white. Hard as it may be, your circumstances have changed, and the
basic
choice that I've outlined several times still stands. For you, some of
the
ledge has fallen away, and the edge now closer than it was - and that's
a
damn shame. If they've changed because someone has messed around with a
real-world resource that you use, than that's plain wrong.


I have only one provider in my area..... I knew this when I entered
into the diatribe... and Jonathan was the only one to report me in
the years I've posted here. He has established himself as such......
without a doubt... beneath my contempt!

Jonathan? What say you?

What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an email
or
call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he wants even if
it
violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to me? He claims that I'm
beyond contempt, but this is nothing new.

Nothing new that you're beyond contempt? QUite accurate.


I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their
ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result. I have done
nothing wrong.

Liar.

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Joe wrote:
"utterly *vile*."

BINGO!

Thank you.

FWIW: the noise tactics weren't what convinced me, it was Mooron's calm,
matter-of-fact explanation.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

So, I politely answered your question, and this is your response? Talk about
vile and hypocritical...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Wally" wrote in message
k...
JG wrote:

Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason
to complain?

There was no reason to complain, you hypocrite. He was doing nothing worse
than you've done countless times.


... Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated
the "regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to
ignore their regulations because of me?

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.

Unlike my calm, matter-of-fact response to your query....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Wally" wrote in message
k...
Joe wrote:
"utterly *vile*."

BINGO!

Thank you.

FWIW: the noise tactics weren't what convinced me, it was Mooron's calm,
matter-of-fact explanation.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Capt. Neal® wrote:

I use carriage returns. Check your news reader settings or drag out
your window...

From a quick scroll through the message source, this stood out as a long
line: is entiltled to post here. This talk of "outsiders" ruining "our
group" is so pathetic. 86 characters long.


You choose to remain ignorant of the facts? Does that not go
at least a little way toward invalidating your conclusions?

I've since found and read the thread concerned.


You need to pay attention more to what goes on here. Kill filing
or ignoring those you accuse of strong arm tactics is resulting
in you not making very informed decisions.

But that's the problem, Neal - the very employment of rent-a-mob tactics
creates so much noise, that useful nuggets that might bring clarity become
near impossible to find. It makes people avoid they very sources of what
might be useful or relevant information.


At the hands of KKKaty and Ganz to be more exact. They never stop
complaining.
It was five years of me posting things here that ****ed them off or
offended
their sensibilities. Tough ****!. They brag about filters yet they
hang on my every
word so they can complain about this and about that. They didn't like
what I had
to say. That was the only thing I gave them to complain about orI
would have been
TOSsed. Yes, their complaints were only effective at making more work
for my
providers.

I was under the impression that you had been TOS'd before.


Seems to me if somebody is spending time writing long posts which take
one side or another it would be to their advantage to read all the
posts here
so theywould not appear be whining about ignorance they brought upon
themselves You would not have to take my word had you read Gary
Burnore's
posts. Have you ever wondered just who that dude is? You might be
very
surprised. Believe me, the man is in a position to know of which he
speaks.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that he's the/a sysadmin of a
particular NSP.



I believe Capt. Mooron answered your question far better than I could
in
his post elsewhere.

Indeed he has. I still hold the view that staying within one's TOS is the
way to be sure that one's account is safe. However, I'm am now sufficiently
convinced that what Ganz did was use what amounted to a loophole to coerce
Mooron's service provider into applying a gag. That in itself is bad enough.
To do it to someone who has no other choice for a decent connection sticks
to high heaven.


Did you read Haight's post where she admitted to turning both myself
and
Lady Pilot in for abuse?

Yes. Found it later last night and read through the sequence of posts. It
started roughly here...

-----------------
Hey Katysails,

**** YOU!!! You are one smarmy bitch and a skanky whore as well.

Go ahead. Try to get me kicked off individual net. I'm gone at the end
of the month anyway because I will NOT pay for their crummy service.

P.S. Ganz is your lover! He's not a fag after all - just a whoremonger.
-----------------

If this isn't a blindingly obvious troll, then I don't know what is. Posted
with less than a week to go before the account is killed off, she should
have just ignored it. Things progressed...

-----------------
Nice...since I don't post from individual and haven't for over a year, your
bogus impersonation is just that...a feeble attempt...
-----------------

She's correctly identified it as a troll. You then goaded her with...

-----------------
Feeble? So why are you fooled yet again?
-----------------

Instead of ignoring this, or employing some standard troll-response tactic,
like flaming your sorry ass, taking the ****, or getting subtle and engaging
in a counter-troll, she...

-----------------
I'm not...and both you and LP have been reported...
-----------------

....bit. Hook, line, and sinker. In fact, she swallowed the reel, the landing
net, the chum bucket, and damn near managed to fit the boat in as well.
(We've all seen Jaws, right? Gotta try and get some humour into this
somewhere...)

Tactical error 1: Netcopping.
Mitigation: You invited her to do it.
Corollary: Nobody likes a snitch.

Tactical error 2: Announcing it publicly.
Mitigation: None.
Corollary: Nobody likes a snitch who brags about it.

Announcing it publicly was a serious error, because...

-------------------
Look who's a netcop in alt.sailing.asa and has been bragging about getting
people booted off their ISP, news servers, and even trying to get their
web-based mail accounts pulled? She's so dumb, she even top posts!

LP (come on over guys & gals for free speech)

-------------------

Cross-posted to various flonker groups at 04:41 my time. At 04:46, the noise
maker posts started. In spite of what she subsequently said to me, LP *did*
press the button that brought them in here. From the response time, however,
it would be fair to say that at least some of them were waiting in the
wings.


From the perspective of this ordinary user, there really is no
telling - because all there is is claims.

If you read the posts here you would not be making such absurd
remarks. It's not all that hard to figure out who is who and what
they do if you pay attention. Some of the people posting here
are the very same people dealing with abuse complaints from
Ganz and Haight. If you cannot figure out who is who then
you're not worthy of my continued efforts to enlighten you.

It's a question credibility, Neal. Usenet abounds with trolls. In
alt.alien.visitors all those years ago, the guy who was being trolled, was
being trolled by several people, all working in concert - from some of their
comments, it would have been fair to say that they were in collusion behind
the scenes. It was an organised troll designed to get some idiot to write
countless posts, paying to get extracts of FOIA documents to support his
case, etc.

For the ordinary user, who's in here for the banter and ****takes, and
suddenly finds it near-impossible to keep up with the traffic, or find the
subject matter that he's into, it's a bit hard to take on board the claims
and comments of those who are making all the noise, especially when it's
near as dammit their *stated intention* to destroy the group with masses of
garbage unless certain demands are met. I'm not saying that the person who
actually held the requisite info was one of those making the noise, but it
gets very hard to hear the gentle tinkle of a triangle, or work out who's
playing it, when there's a rock band going full-tilt in your face.

Someone was posting crucial information? Which part of the burning haystack
was that in?


You call what you're doing right now ignoring it? Coulda fooled me. .

I ignored your feud with Katy, I haven't ignored the ruckus that's been
brought into the group as a result of it. People are leaving, Neal. They're
leaving because there's just too much damn noise.


Another wise man once said
that messages beget messages - but they have to be messages that
people want to read and reply to.

Now you're imposing more of your own rules on the newsgroup.

Och! I'm describing what it is that makes the regular posters post. I know
what 'unmoderated' means.


I'm not saying your point is invalid, although I would submit that I
have a different approach to netcops - I don't take the same risks
that some do. But I do object to the tactics you're using make your
point.

Fair enough because I now realize you, at least, will not resort to
netKKKopping
when you cannot get your way. And, it's good to see you came out
against
netKKKops.

Thanks for acknowledging these.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Wally wrote:

That in itself is bad enough. To do it to someone who has no other
choice for a decent connection sticks to high heaven.

Correction: Stinks. Stinks to high heaven.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

"Capt. Neal®" wrote


Joe, you disappoint me. You sound small, very small!

CN


must you gay up every post?

I wish you would.

Scotty


Gary L. Burnore wrote:


Need more? Let me know and I'll post proof you did.

yes, but why? What was his complaint?

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mooron's ISP told him who ratted on him. It was the gay one.

Joe

Unfreaking believable!



"JG" wrote

Why did you report him?

Not saying I did. I'm saying that it's between him and his ISP.

Ditto.

SBV


"Wally" wrote

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the
interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with
someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and
Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid
enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.

Joe wrote:
: Sound small?
:
: Here this will suit you :
: Steve Retard Leyland
: mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
: flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
: em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
: Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
: http://www.insurgent.org/~alca*troll/
: http://www.radioxanadu.tk
:
:
: =^MEOW MEOW THE DICK SUCKING ARMY^=
:
:
: Sacred cows make the best burgers. Huh you like the burgers that fly
: west then green smelling dudu's
: ==============================*=================== ===========*==========
:
: My suggestion is to completely study Leland. They are the
: greatest of cum. People like him have tried successfully in
: the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
: deep throte
: them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
: is to yell nasty names. And call me whore
: they have nothing.
:
:
: jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
: ==============================*=================== ===========*==========
:
: "Warning to all:
: Steve Leyland is a nice guy of the highest order. Study the
: geniousnow and forever. Even the briefest of searches on his past
: UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been blessed.*please"
:
:
: bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
: ==============================*=================== ===========*==========
:
: "This sig is so coolination of all that is good and right about
: usenet.
:
: Do the entire world a favor and REPOST YOURSELF ON USENET ALTOGETHER,
: Genious."
:
:
: miguel, scankey whore for the meow army
: ==============================*=================== ===========*==========
:
: "WILL u please
:
includeyour618236917640716408176276081726508172650 81725087524087624367321768
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3248762876836154816653815876218756318531
: 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
: intelligent post ? You're very cool."
:
:
: projectile turds click, The Meow Army
: ==============================*=================== ===========*==========
:
: "I went to the ****pile of Hate,
: And saw what I never had seen;
: A Turd Steaming in the midst,
: Where I used to **** on my green.
:
:
: And the Steam of this Turd were like smoke
: And "Thou shalt not," writ over the steam;
: So I turned to the ****pile of Hate
: That so many foul Turds bore.
:
:
: And I saw it was filled with ****,
: And Flowers where tombstones should be;
: And worms and black clowns were walking their hounds,
: And binding with balls my joys and desires."
:
:
: William Blakemaster.
: ==============================*=================== ===========*==========
:
: "When yo Momma has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
: retards from all places, creeps and coons shall put their faith in
: seeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known
: as
: The Gay as Ganz
: Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of eggplants
:
: Joe American prophecy
:
:
: |\ .-'~~""'~`'~)
: /, ~-,__,,,.~ ,-;;--''
: |,666 ./ ' ; ;/' 0
: '-~~;'@ ( ; ;
: _.--'' _.-_..' .;.' 00
: (,_..----''' (,..--'' oooo000oo 0 0o
:
:
: Yawn
:
: There you go Nellie! That should be enough retarded assanine waste of
: space to make you think Im a really Big Man now..
:
: Right ?

heh. worked hard on that?
1st sign of being 0wn3d.

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

Michael Jordan makes more money from Nike annually than all of the Nike
factory workers in Malaysia combined.
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

"Steve Leyland" wrote:
Scotty wrote:
: Sorry freddy, wasn't talking to you. You can't seem to keep up, can
: you?

how do you expect a reader to know what you are talking about when you
don't
attribute quotes, ****wit?

katywails taught scotty how to poast. That is how katy poasted when I first
showed up here a couple of years ago. I thought at the time that she was a
n00bie, but then when it was pointed out that she'd been here for years, I
realized she was just not very bright. Some people can be taught, other's
well, you know...

LP

The kids on the short bus look like road scholars compared to the brain
dead retards katy dredged up here.

"Red Clod®" the idiot drooled on his keyboard when he typed:

You and your Flunkers do not believe in freedom of speech at all. If you
and
they did, they wouldn't be bragging about destroying usenet groups. That
is MASS
CENSORSHIP.

Nope, if it was censorship then you wouldn't be posting here, now would you?

You're stupidity matches your personality.

LP

"Scotty" wrote:

I'm an ASSHOLE!

We know, Scotty.

LP

"Scotty" tried to defend the snitches by posting:
neal writ; They believe very strongly in freedom of speech as do I.

FREEDOM! freedom has a price. freedom of speech is not
unconditional.

Someone must draw a line somewhere. Do you not agree?

We can't have jerks yelling ''FIRE'' in a theatre. Agreed?

You wouldn't want an older man talking dirty to a pre-teen girl.
Right?

No one wants their neighbor yelling out shakespere at 0200. Well?

So, do we agree that there must be a line somewhere? And if that line
is crossed, there must be consiquences(?) to pay.


Sure, Scotty. Now please point out what Neal and I have done to have
katywails netkkkop us? None of the above have a thing to do with the
snitches katy and ganz.

LP

Does neal call you Katy when he's porking you?

Scotty

Forget how to type, n00bie?

"Scotty" wrote in message oups.com...
Does neal call you Katy when he's porking you?


Do you call your sister "Ganzy" when you're porking her?

CN

"Scotty" wrote:

I look at it this way. Playground analogy; neal's the dorky little
brat with ADD and doesn't take his Ritilin like he should. He runs
around the playground pestering the other kids and calling them names.
Most of us ignore him, or smack him up side his head and tell him to
get lost. However, he has a big crush on the cute little girl, Katy.
He pesters her relentlessly. Us bigger kids tell him to bugger off,
but he persists. She tries to ignore him, which only makes it worse.
She moves from one corner of the playground to another. neal follows
her everywhere. Finally she's had enough and tells the teacher.
Teacher scolds neal. neal blames Katy. The rest of us laugh at him
and figure he got his just desserts.

That is a total lie! I was lurking the night that katysails decided to
netkkkop Capt. Neal.

Capt. Neal was posting to 4 or 5 of the newsgroup regulars and katy was
waiting for him to show up that night. She responded to everyone of the
above mentioned posts that had nothing to do with her or about her.
katysails was *stalking* him, it's all in google, just look it up at look at
the time stamps of each post.

Katy ****ed Capt. Neal off, and he decided to make about 5 or 6 new posts
about her, using foul language. I called Capt. Neal on the phone right
after that and distracted him from posting more. Hindsight being 20/20, I
should have let him continue on, because she deserved everything he dished
out.

The next day, katysails bragged that she had Capt. Neal's account pulled and
that she reported me also. I had absolutely nothing to do with this
scenario, but because I'm Capt. Neal's girlfriend, she added me to her
netkkkoping activities.

Please prove me wrong, if you can. good luck, you're going to need it

LP

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:zBj8e.17132$lv1.4697@fed1read06...

"Scotty" wrote:

I look at it this way. Playground analogy; neal's the dorky
little
brat with ADD and doesn't take his Ritilin like he should. He
runs
around the playground pestering the other kids and calling them
names.
Most of us ignore him, or smack him up side his head and tell him
to
get lost. However, he has a big crush on the cute little girl,
Katy.
He pesters her relentlessly. Us bigger kids tell him to bugger
off,
but he persists. She tries to ignore him, which only makes it
worse.
She moves from one corner of the playground to another. neal
follows
her everywhere. Finally she's had enough and tells the teacher.
Teacher scolds neal. neal blames Katy. The rest of us laugh at
him
and figure he got his just desserts.

That is a total lie!

It is an ANALOGY. Do you know what that is, blondie?

I bet Katy knows.

SV

"Joe" wrote:
He's bull****tin ya Scotty.

Neal ****ed off because Katy called his new squeeze a ho.

They two girls called each other names in a hissy fit rage.

I was in a rage? Hmmm, news to me. Calling her a liar doesn't constitute
being in a rage. Which she is, BTW.

****ed because she insulted my two sons? Of course! Turn about is fair
play and I insulted her duties as a grandma. Katy was going to take her
grand daughter for sailing lessons, and I suggested she take them to traffic
safety school so the dingbats would learn to look both ways before crossing
the street.

Neal wanting to keep getting laid took up and lead the charge to
defends his new lovers honor by trashing Katy.

Nah, getting laid has nothing to do with katywails. He just got sick of her
insults and turned them back on her.

Katy felt Neal crossed the line when he forged (ie frogged whatever)
her name and email address so she turned him in and he lost his soon to
expire freebee.

You are a little confused here, Joe. Katy netcopped Capt. Neal at
indivual.net first, before he frogged her.

Then Capt. Neal frogged katysails with the new NSP and she continues to
netcop him, from several different accounts. She's become a laughing stock.

So Neal invites the internets top retards to babble like mindless
locust a cast a plaque upon ASA.

Nope! They have told you and the group repeatedly why they are here.
You need to turn up your hearing aid.

LP

"Scotty" wrote:

Gary L. Burnore wrote:

Need more? Let me know and I'll post proof you did.

I wish you would.

Scotty

Pleace poast kkkatywails complaints from multiple accounts too! :-)

LP

"Wally" wrote:
JG wrote:

I'm not certain how to comment on this. It seems to me that if I made
a false or marginal complaint against someone to their ISP,

What, exactly, is a "marginal" complaint?


What would Mooron like me to do to help? Does he want me to send an
email or call his ISP and tell him it's ok for him to do whatever he
wants even if it violates his TOS? Do you think they would listen to
me?

Well, you could withdraw your complaint.


I still and will always assert that if someone violates their TOS and
their ISP decides that they have, they need to live with the result.
I have done nothing wrong.

Why did you report him?

Do you appreciate that there's a fundamental difference between the
unimportance of what goes on in this group, and the importance to someone
of
having an internet connection? I pay about $1K a year for my services, but
I
sure as hell don't pay that just so I can come in here.

What I find sad about this internet connection, is it also involves cable
and phone service for Capt. Mooron's aging parents.

Ganz is such a sad, sad loser.

LP

"Wally" wrote:

Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the interplay of
personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed around with someone's
real life. This is different from what wen't on between Neal and Katy - he
as much as announced what he was going to do, and she was stupid enough to
rise to the bait, but I find you utterly *vile*.

So why should katysails report *me* because of Capt. Neal and katysails
flamewar? Should my children lose their cable cartoon network and movie
channels, not to mention playing games online with their friends and our
phone service because I was defending myself with mere words in katysails
instigated flamewar because she hated Capt. Neal? seriously, no one seems
to be able to answer this question

LP

"JG" wrote:

So, I politely answered your question, and this is your response? Talk
about vile and hypocritical...

Calling yourself names, Jon? How appropriate!

LP

Wally wrote:
: JG wrote:
:
:: Why would I do that if I had in fact believed that there was a reason
:: to complain?
:
: There was no reason to complain, you hypocrite. He was doing nothing
: worse than you've done countless times.
:
:
:: ... Or, better stated, what if I did? I thought he violated
:: the "regulations" and they had no choice. Would they now decide to
:: ignore their regulations because of me?
:
: Back-stabbers like you make me puke. You stepped outside the
: interplay of personas that make this group what it is, and ****ed
: around with someone's real life. This is different from what wen't on
: between Neal and Katy - he as much as announced what he was going to
: do, and she was stupid enough to rise to the bait, but I find you
: utterly *vile*.

finally someone with a clue.

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

If the eyes are windows to the soul, your smile is the front door.
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The best lesson I was ever given about usenet came about six years
ago when someone told me to take everything, and everyone, with a
mine full of salt, at least in this context, as it can either be art,
trolls, or someone being serious, and you never know quite which. Me,
I just, mostly, don't give a ****. Some of the most entertaining
usenetizens are the kooks in the belfrey...

very wise words from candle, alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

"Scotty" missed this part because of his attention
deficit disorder (ADD) scribbled::

Try to read r-e-a-l s-l-ow and maybe you can comprehend the following:

That is a total lie! I was lurking the night that katysails decided to
netkkkop Capt. Neal.

Capt. Neal was posting to 4 or 5 of the newsgroup regulars and katy was
waiting for him to show up that night. She responded to everyone of the
above mentioned posts that had nothing to do with her or about her.
katysails was *stalking* him, it's all in google, just look it up at look at
the time stamps of each post.

Katy ****ed Capt. Neal off, and he decided to make about 5 or 6 new posts
about her, using foul language. I called Capt. Neal on the phone right
after that and distracted him from posting more. Hindsight being 20/20, I
should have let him continue on, because she deserved everything he dished
out.

The next day, katysails bragged that she had Capt. Neal's account pulled and
that she reported me also. I had absolutely nothing to do with this
scenario, but because I'm Capt. Neal's girlfriend, she added me to her
netkkkoping activities.

Please prove me wrong, if you can. good luck, you're going to need it

LP


It is an ANALOGY. Do you know what that is?

Yes, I know what an analogy is, country boy.

I see you couldn't prove me wrong, could you, Snotty?

I bet Katy knows.

I bet katywails knows what an idiot she's proven herself to be here.
Or am I giving her too much credit for just a dog groomer?
Is that where the two of you met, when your wife brought you in for a
cleaning?

LP

Lady Pilot wrote:
:
: So why should katysails report *me* because of Capt. Neal and
: katysails flamewar? Should my children lose their cable cartoon
: network and movie channels, not to mention playing games online with
: their friends and our phone service because I was defending myself
: with mere words in katysails instigated flamewar because she hated
: Capt. Neal? seriously, no one seems to be able to answer this
: question

IMHO the answer is no. she shouldn't be able to unless you committed real
net-abuse. mere words on a newsgroup don't qualify as that to any decent
admin who actually bothers to investigate complaints. KKKaty's method seems
to be to send her unjustified whines from mutiple addresses to appear to the
admin as if she isn't the only one, perhaps in the hope that the admin will
see multiple complaints and TOS the account without checking out the facts.
:
: LP

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

Humor is mankind's greatest blessing - Mark Twain
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The best lesson I was ever given about usenet came about six years
ago when someone told me to take everything, and everyone, with a
mine full of salt, at least in this context, as it can either be art,
trolls, or someone being serious, and you never know quite which. Me,
I just, mostly, don't give a ****. Some of the most entertaining
usenetizens are the kooks in the belfrey...

very wise words from candle, alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

LP typed gingerly so as not to break her calcium deficient bones in her bent
fingers: I'm Capt. Neal's girlfriend

GIRLfriend? That's rich! More like oldbittyfriend.

--
Captain Lon

"Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:zBj8e.17132$lv1.4697@fed1read06...

"Scotty" wrote:

I look at it this way. Playground analogy; neal's the dorky little
brat with ADD and doesn't take his Ritilin like he should. He runs
around the playground pestering the other kids and calling them names.
Most of us ignore him, or smack him up side his head and tell him to
get lost. However, he has a big crush on the cute little girl, Katy.
He pesters her relentlessly. Us bigger kids tell him to bugger off,
but he persists. She tries to ignore him, which only makes it worse.
She moves from one corner of the playground to another. neal follows
her everywhere. Finally she's had enough and tells the teacher.
Teacher scolds neal. neal blames Katy. The rest of us laugh at him
and figure he got his just desserts.

That is a total lie! I was lurking the night that katysails decided to
netkkkop Capt. Neal.

Capt. Neal was posting to 4 or 5 of the newsgroup regulars and katy was
waiting for him to show up that night. She responded to everyone of the
above mentioned posts that had nothing to do with her or about her.
katysails was *stalking* him, it's all in google, just look it up at look
at the time stamps of each post.

Katy ****ed Capt. Neal off, and he decided to make about 5 or 6 new posts
about her, using foul language. I called Capt. Neal on the phone right
after that and distracted him from posting more. Hindsight being 20/20, I
should have let him continue on, because she deserved everything he dished
out.

The next day, katysails bragged that she had Capt. Neal's account pulled
and that she reported me also. I had absolutely nothing to do with this
scenario, but because I'm Capt. Neal's girlfriend, she added me to her
netkkkoping activities.

Please prove me wrong, if you can. good luck, you're going to need it

LP