JG wrote:
: The only way to be effective against those who wish to disrupt this
: newsgroup

that'd be you and your katysails partner in crime, ganzy-boi.

: is to completely ignore them by filtering them out. If one
: does this, no amount of "escalation" can destroy the newsgroup.

wanna bet on it?
please don't tempt me to demonstrate.
:
: For example, my filter seems to have removed about 30 posts since the
: last time I checked in here.

ostriches always bury their heads in the sand so they can't see any
approaching danger...
:
: I'm betting that there will now be an intense flurry of derogatory
: posts. Fortunately, I won't see most them, and those that I will see,
: I will only see once.

why dontcha try not being such a saddo netKKKop? then eventually people
might accept you as a decent usenetizen.
:
: The people who are attempting to disrupt the newsgroup are puerile and
: unworthy of attention. The only self-imposed (or really
: self-appointed) moderators are uninterested in actual conversation
: about sailing and related matters. They seek to moderate away
: anything except chaos. It won't work.

wrong again. we merely seek freedom of speech without interference. who the
**** gave you the right to send abuse reports to ISPs simply because you
disagree with mere words in an unmoderated newsgroup?

:
:
: "Scotty" wrote in message
: oups.com...
:: There are two ways to resolve the problems he
:: 1: You, the decent regulars rise up against the self-imposed
:: moderators and
:: persuade them to desist from their foolish abuse reporting behaviour
:: and
:: make a public apology. Then I -will- go away, and watch from a
:: distance.
:: 2: The invasion escalates until this place is totally trashed.
::
::
:: 3: We find out where you live and torch the dump.
::
:: How does one ''rise up'' and kick off another on usenet? If it could
:: be done, you'd have been gone a long time ago.
::
:: SV

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Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

You will always be lucky if you know how to make friends with strange
cats. - Colonial American proverb
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


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|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
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(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

Scotty ****ed up the quoting of Steve Leyland's post:
[begin Steve's part]
There are two ways to resolve the problems he
1: You, the decent regulars rise up against the self-imposed moderators
and
persuade them to desist from their foolish abuse reporting behaviour
and
make a public apology. Then I -will- go away, and watch from a
distance.
2: The invasion escalates until this place is totally trashed.
[end Steve's part]

[Scotty can't count to 2, so he kookfarts by adding]


3: We find out where you live and torch the dump.

We?

With whom are you conspiring to inflict harm to person
and property?

And all because your (plural, speaking to the 'we' above)
plan to abuse the abuse reporting process to moderate an
unmoderated alt.* group is being met with words of opposition.

This space reserved for you to make it clear that you're
not serious about hunting folks down and inflicting harm.


How does one ''rise up''

On Usenet, one rises up by posting commentary. I do it while
sitting down.

and kick off another on usenet?

I think Steve made it pretty clear that the solution doesn't
necessitate their expulsion.

If it could be
done, you'd have been gone a long time ago.

Now, extrapolate that idea with, "What if everone did it?"

Would there be anyone left?

--
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..oo
c
- Soque

Plonk to you and all like you.

Have a wonderful life.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"St3ve Leyland" wrote in
message ...
JG wrote:
: The only way to be effective against those who wish to disrupt this
: newsgroup

that'd be you and your katysails partner in crime, ganzy-boi.

: is to completely ignore them by filtering them out. If one
: does this, no amount of "escalation" can destroy the newsgroup.

wanna bet on it?
please don't tempt me to demonstrate.
:
: For example, my filter seems to have removed about 30 posts since the
: last time I checked in here.

ostriches always bury their heads in the sand so they can't see any
approaching danger...
:
: I'm betting that there will now be an intense flurry of derogatory
: posts. Fortunately, I won't see most them, and those that I will see,
: I will only see once.

why dontcha try not being such a saddo netKKKop? then eventually people
might accept you as a decent usenetizen.
:
: The people who are attempting to disrupt the newsgroup are puerile and
: unworthy of attention. The only self-imposed (or really
: self-appointed) moderators are uninterested in actual conversation
: about sailing and related matters. They seek to moderate away
: anything except chaos. It won't work.

wrong again. we merely seek freedom of speech without interference. who
the
**** gave you the right to send abuse reports to ISPs simply because you
disagree with mere words in an unmoderated newsgroup?

:
:
: "Scotty" wrote in message
: oups.com...
:: There are two ways to resolve the problems he
:: 1: You, the decent regulars rise up against the self-imposed
:: moderators and
:: persuade them to desist from their foolish abuse reporting behaviour
:: and
:: make a public apology. Then I -will- go away, and watch from a
:: distance.
:: 2: The invasion escalates until this place is totally trashed.
::
::
:: 3: We find out where you live and torch the dump.
::
:: How does one ''rise up'' and kick off another on usenet? If it could
:: be done, you'd have been gone a long time ago.
::
:: SV

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

You will always be lucky if you know how to make friends with strange
cats. - Colonial American proverb
================================================== ====================
My suggestion is to completely ignore idiots like Leland. They are the
lowest form of pond scum. People like him have tried unsuccessfully in
the past to disrupt the newsgroup. The best medicine is to completely
ignore them. As I'm sure you'll see, they're most intelligent response
is to yell nasty names. Other than that, they have nothing.

jg, netKKKop, alt.sailing.asa
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, netKKKop, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:07:48 -0700, "JG"
wrote:

Plonk to you and all like you.

Liar.


Have a wonderful life.

The truth hurts, doesn't it netkkkop.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:35:02 -0700, "JG"
wrote:

The only way to be effective against those who wish to disrupt this
newsgroup is to completely ignore them by filtering them out. If one does
this, no amount of "escalation" can destroy the newsgroup.

Who started the escalation, netkkkop? Words on a screen motivated
you to file abuse complaints that resulted in a poster to asa losing
their Usenet access. And now you whine about filtering. Were you
unable to filter before? How hypocritical, Ganzy.


For example, my filter seems to have removed about 30 posts since the last
time I checked in here.

Really? What was wrong with your filter before?


I'm betting that there will now be an intense flurry of derogatory posts.
Fortunately, I won't see most them, and those that I will see, I will only
see once.

Yes, Ganzy, you will see the derogatory posts, and more than once.
You are the swine that brought about the demise of this froup due to
your desire to enforce your will upon this froup by means of
netkkkoping.


The people who are attempting to disrupt the newsgroup are puerile and
unworthy of attention. The only self-imposed (or really self-appointed)
moderators are uninterested in actual conversation about sailing and related
matters. They seek to moderate away anything except chaos. It won't work.

What have you posted related to sailing lately, Ganzy? Why are you
unable to accept the fact the your attempts to control asa smack of
totalitarianism?

Who started the escalation, netkkkop? Words on a screen motivated
you to file abuse complaints that resulted in a poster to asa losing
their Usenet access. And now you whine about filtering. Were you
unable to filter before? How hypocritical, Ganzy.
Really? What was wrong with your filter before?


He's got a point there, Jon.

SV

I'm using Google right now, and as far as I can see there are no
filters.

SV

Scotty ****ed up the quoting of Steve Leyland's post:

Really? I cut and paste. His words.

Scotty can't count to 2, so he kookfarts by adding

That just doesn't make sense.

What kind of boat do you sail?


S

Who started it?? Neal of course... by his own claims. The only point he has
is on the top of his head.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
ups.com...
Who started the escalation, netkkkop? Words on a screen motivated
you to file abuse complaints that resulted in a poster to asa losing
their Usenet access. And now you whine about filtering. Were you
unable to filter before? How hypocritical, Ganzy.
Really? What was wrong with your filter before?


He's got a point there, Jon.

SV

Soque wrote:
Scotty ****ed up the quoting of Steve Leyland's post:

Scotty wrote:
Really? I cut and paste. His words.

Yes, and you failed to attribute his words to him. I had
to make notations to avoid confusion as to who said what
in my followup.

[...snip...]

What kind of boat do you sail?

I sail a milk carton that I've cut in half and equiped with a sail
made of a napkin on the high seas of my bathtub.

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,,,
..oo
c
- Soque