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Amazing capsize caught on film under the Golden Gate
Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like
everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
"JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. Did you call the police and report him? no doubt LP |
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LP,
I've made up my mind not to say or think ill of you, because you are the companion of a friend of mine. A good 'net friend. Please make some effort to make peace for every one sake. We don't require your presence if we bother you but if you stay realize that the group can't change for you. It is you who must change or leave us be, Ole Thom |
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:14:02 -0500, "Lady Pilot"
wrote this crap: "JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. Did you call the police and report him? no doubt LP Jon-boy probably also gave him a blow job. This post is 100% free of steroids |
Undoubtedly someone who the unlicensed Ganzy taught.
Lonny B -- "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson "JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
"JG" wrote
Check it out.. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... |
"JG" wrote
Check it out.. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm That was ugly. I wonder if the mast came off because of the rollover, or if it hit the bottom. WTF was the guy doing sailing there? Vito wrote: Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... The wages of stupidity, more like. And the boat may not have needed bottom work. A lot of boats that get prepped for racing have very patchy looking bottoms from being sanded fair... the anti-foul is this slick short-term stuff that's clear. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Yeah it's not to bright to surf next to a rockey shore. Im sure his
mast was tore off due to a shallow hard bottom. Yachtsea with dice on the side was fitting, he rolled the dice on that one an has a major bad day. He was lucky not to have pitch poled. If your going to surf you better have a boat that can plane with a fast to rise bow, or you better have a full heavy keel. Joe |
No. That's further out. This is right under the Golden Gate, south
stanchion. Not a good place to sail when there are waves. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Great Pictures Jon. Is that the "Potato Patch"? http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage |
It shows the evils of sailing in the wrong place and the wrong time.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Vito" wrote in message ... "JG" wrote Check it out.. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... |
He didn't hit bottom. It's 20+ feet there. It was the roll.
Turns out someone I know knows this guy, and I'm trying to find out. Obviously, he made had a big lapse in judgement. I just can't imagine why. It's pretty obvious when there are breaking waves. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message . .. "JG" wrote Check it out.. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm That was ugly. I wonder if the mast came off because of the rollover, or if it hit the bottom. WTF was the guy doing sailing there? Vito wrote: Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... The wages of stupidity, more like. And the boat may not have needed bottom work. A lot of boats that get prepped for racing have very patchy looking bottoms from being sanded fair... the anti-foul is this slick short-term stuff that's clear. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
JG wrote:
He didn't hit bottom. It's 20+ feet there. It was the roll. Not surprising, it looked like the boat got really hammered. Turns out someone I know knows this guy, and I'm trying to find out. Obviously, he made had a big lapse in judgement. I just can't imagine why. It's pretty obvious when there are breaking waves. Maybe he was in close, trying to avoid an unfavorable current. Maybe he thought he could get a boost by surfing those waves. Maybe there was a really beautiful woman on shore he wanted to get a closer look at. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
You'd be wrong. It's plenty deep. It was the breaking waves.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Yeah it's not to bright to surf next to a rockey shore. Im sure his mast was tore off due to a shallow hard bottom. Yachtsea with dice on the side was fitting, he rolled the dice on that one an has a major bad day. He was lucky not to have pitch poled. If your going to surf you better have a boat that can plane with a fast to rise bow, or you better have a full heavy keel. Joe |
DSK wrote: Maybe there was a
really beautiful woman on shore he wanted to get a closer look at. It happened in San Francisco. He was not interested in any woman. Lonny B -- "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson "DSK" wrote in message . .. JG wrote: He didn't hit bottom. It's 20+ feet there. It was the roll. Not surprising, it looked like the boat got really hammered. Turns out someone I know knows this guy, and I'm trying to find out. Obviously, he made had a big lapse in judgement. I just can't imagine why. It's pretty obvious when there are breaking waves. Maybe he was in close, trying to avoid an unfavorable current. Maybe he thought he could get a boost by surfing those waves. Maybe there was a really beautiful woman on shore he wanted to get a closer look at. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Lonny B wrote:
It happened in San Francisco. He was not interested in any woman. How do you know for sure? A lot of gay hair dressers or fashion designers have to look very closely at women. DSK |
You'd be wrong. It was the waves.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Yeah it's not to bright to surf next to a rockey shore. Im sure his mast was tore off due to a shallow hard bottom. Yachtsea with dice on the side was fitting, he rolled the dice on that one an has a major bad day. He was lucky not to have pitch poled. If your going to surf you better have a boat that can plane with a fast to rise bow, or you better have a full heavy keel. Joe |
I think it might have been an attempt to surf, which is fine, except that
you don't do that if the waves are breaking. Usually, if you see surfers there, it's not the right time. I'm trying to get more info. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message . .. JG wrote: He didn't hit bottom. It's 20+ feet there. It was the roll. Not surprising, it looked like the boat got really hammered. Turns out someone I know knows this guy, and I'm trying to find out. Obviously, he made had a big lapse in judgement. I just can't imagine why. It's pretty obvious when there are breaking waves. Maybe he was in close, trying to avoid an unfavorable current. Maybe he thought he could get a boost by surfing those waves. Maybe there was a really beautiful woman on shore he wanted to get a closer look at. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:14:02 -0500, "Lady Pilot" wrote this crap: "JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. Did you call the police and report him? no doubt LP Jon-boy probably also gave him a blow job. You're a liar, Horvath. What's with 'probably'? CN |
Don't start it up again. You can't win!
Databasix let you start trouble you can't finish |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Don't start it up again. You can't win! Databasix let you start trouble you can't finish Take your meds, Ole Thom! Databasix didn't 'start it up' - netKKKops Jonathan Ganz and Catherine Haight started it. They can finish it simply by apologizing to the group for disrupting it with their netKKKopping. Pretty simple, huh? CN |
Where exactly is it?
Id like to look at a chart, Seems after it rolled it was right up on the rocks. You saying the bottom is more a canyon than a hill? Joe |
If it's only 20+ feet then the mast struck bottom. Duh if you said it
was 30+ feet then maybe the mast did not strike bottom. Anyone that surfs a sailboat knows to hand hold the main sheet so you can let go if you roll, reducing the load on the mast. amatures! Joe |
"DSK" wrote
Vito wrote: Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... The wages of stupidity, more like. And the boat may not have needed bottom work. A lot of boats that get prepped for racing have very patchy looking bottoms from being sanded fair... the anti-foul is this slick short-term stuff that's clear. That may be true but facts have no place in a religious discussion grin. Sailboats are meant to be worked on, not sailed. If the lord wanted them sailed they wouldn't need so much work! These pictures show the results of sin. If it'd been on the hard getting painted it wouldn't have sank. Right? Remember that next time a mellow breeze lures you into temptation. |
It's just off the south stanchion of the bridge... between that an Ft.
Point. I've sailed there before, but not with breaking waves. It looks scary either way, but it's doable in good conditions. Of course, you don't want to get right next to the rocks or the stanchion for obvious reasons, but the center is fine for small boats. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Where exactly is it? Id like to look at a chart, Seems after it rolled it was right up on the rocks. You saying the bottom is more a canyon than a hill? Joe |
I suppose it's theoretically possible, but I doubt it. That would take quite
a bounce. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... If it's only 20+ feet then the mast struck bottom. Duh if you said it was 30+ feet then maybe the mast did not strike bottom. Anyone that surfs a sailboat knows to hand hold the main sheet so you can let go if you roll, reducing the load on the mast. amatures! Joe |
Thom, really you need to give it a rest. Neal and others have been bragging
for a long time about how they've "reported me." They are liars on most subjects, bigots for sure, and responding to them just gives them fuel. I know you're not into kill filing but it really works. Basically, it removes the temptation to reply to their stupid, hate-filled crapola, it completely takes the wind out of their sails because they get no energy from it, and it totally infuriates them at the same time. Judging from the subject lines and the copied posts, Neal is having a fit that I don't respond. I don't usually quote Jesus, but when he said "turn the other cheek," he was right on. (I'm sure this will generate the usual derogatory comments, but the good news is that I won't see them!) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Don't start it up again. You can't win! Databasix let you start trouble you can't finish |
"JG" wrote in message ... Thom, really you need to give it a rest. Neal and others have been bragging for a long time about how they've "reported me." They are liars on most subjects, bigots for sure, and responding to them just gives them fuel. I know you're not into kill filing but it really works. Basically, it removes the temptation to reply to their stupid, hate-filled crapola, it completely takes the wind out of their sails because they get no energy from it, and it totally infuriates them at the same time. Judging from the subject lines and the copied posts, Neal is having a fit that I don't respond. I don't usually quote Jesus, but when he said "turn the other cheek," he was right on. (I'm sure this will generate the usual derogatory comments, but the good news is that I won't see them!) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Odd that Jonathan writes multiple abuse complaints about people he kill files . . . Maybe he's one of those remote viewers we hear from on Art Bell's show. CN |
"JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Amazing pics. Have to feel sorry for this guy, making a mistake like that and having it recorded for posterity. Pity the good samaritan surfers sank the boat. John Cairns |
Neal,
Just about the total group disagree with you (&LP) if it is of any interest to you. Your Gary has Donal fool but only for awhile. You and LP are laughing at Donal but LP is prancing it around and screwing up your cover. Enjoy it, it's a very small minority! I hope this is my last post on the whole sorry mess. You were wrong to allow outside people into the group the way you did. I can't excuse that as most of the group can't excuse it. I hope that is plain enough English for Gary I'm finished with it. It's History. A died horse. Ole Thom |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Neal, Just about the total group disagree with you (&LP) if it is of any interest to you. Your Gary has Donal fool but only for awhile. You and LP are laughing at Donal but LP is prancing it around and screwing up your cover. Enjoy it, it's a very small minority! I hope this is my last post on the whole sorry mess. You were wrong to allow outside people into the group the way you did. I can't excuse that as most of the group can't excuse it. I hope that is plain enough English for Gary "Wrong to allow outside people into the group?" Do you, in your dotage, believe alt.sailing.asa is a moderated group and that I am the moderator? No offense, Old Chap, but you're starting to sound like a moron. CN |
From what it looked like to me, the boat was pooped, and sank on it's own or
the second person on the boat did when he climbed back on... He was wearing foulies, and clearly was not a surfer. I'm hoping to get more info, since I think a friend of mine knows the boat owner. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message . com... "JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Amazing pics. Have to feel sorry for this guy, making a mistake like that and having it recorded for posterity. Pity the good samaritan surfers sank the boat. John Cairns |
And the boat may not have needed bottom work...
Vito wrote: That may be true but facts have no place in a religious discussion grin. Ah yes. Very true. Sailboats are meant to be worked on, not sailed. Indeed. What is faith without works? .... If it'd been on the hard getting painted it wouldn't have sank. Right? Remember that next time a mellow breeze lures you into temptation. But one must demonstrate one's virtue by sailing every once in a while. It is not a surrender to temptation, it is a triumph of the will and a hallmark of grace. But truly, man was meant to sail his boat by the sweat of his brow! DSK |
Yeh, but there are easier ways to do that.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Maybe they have a really good insurance policy and were looking for a new bottom without all the work... "Vito" wrote in message ... "JG" wrote Check it out.. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... |
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 12:57:50 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap: Jon-boy probably also gave him a blow job. You're a liar, Horvath. What's with 'probably'? CN Ooops! Sorry about that. I'm not to proud to admit when I made a mistake, unlike others in this newsgroup. It takes a real man to admit his mistakes, and tell others about it. I do my best, but I'm only human. I will try to do better, and I'm glad that others are checking on me. It takes a strong man with real character to own up to his mistakes. I can accept this responsibility and try to live up to it. This post is 100% free of steroids |
"JG" wrote in message ... Yeh, but there are easier ways to do that. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Maybe they have a really good insurance policy and were looking for a new bottom without all the work... Wow! What do you call it when one netKKKop answers another netKKKop? Two click, two click, two click assholes in one . . . Double your pleasure, double your fun, with double good, double good, Double netKKKop scum! CN |
That whole fiasco looks like something I would do.
Bob Crantz "DSK" wrote in message . .. JG wrote: He didn't hit bottom. It's 20+ feet there. It was the roll. Not surprising, it looked like the boat got really hammered. Turns out someone I know knows this guy, and I'm trying to find out. Obviously, he made had a big lapse in judgement. I just can't imagine why. It's pretty obvious when there are breaking waves. Maybe he was in close, trying to avoid an unfavorable current. Maybe he thought he could get a boost by surfing those waves. Maybe there was a really beautiful woman on shore he wanted to get a closer look at. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Sailing it creates more work. Your whole point is true. I doubt many others
see the true irony. Bob Crantz "Vito" wrote in message ... "DSK" wrote Vito wrote: Just goes to show the evils of sailing a boat instead of working on it! That boat already needed work, including new bottom paint. There was no reason to take her out. The wages of sin ..... The wages of stupidity, more like. And the boat may not have needed bottom work. A lot of boats that get prepped for racing have very patchy looking bottoms from being sanded fair... the anti-foul is this slick short-term stuff that's clear. That may be true but facts have no place in a religious discussion grin. Sailboats are meant to be worked on, not sailed. If the lord wanted them sailed they wouldn't need so much work! These pictures show the results of sin. If it'd been on the hard getting painted it wouldn't have sank. Right? Remember that next time a mellow breeze lures you into temptation. |
Why weren't danger buoys in the channel?
"JG" wrote in message ... From what it looked like to me, the boat was pooped, and sank on it's own or the second person on the boat did when he climbed back on... He was wearing foulies, and clearly was not a surfer. I'm hoping to get more info, since I think a friend of mine knows the boat owner. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message . com... "JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Amazing pics. Have to feel sorry for this guy, making a mistake like that and having it recorded for posterity. Pity the good samaritan surfers sank the boat. John Cairns |
The little boat was probably his home. Now that he is homeless, he can get
monthly checks from the loser liberal gov't in San Francisco. Lonny B -- "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson "JG" wrote in message ... Check it out.. I'm betting this guy will not try this again. Looks like everyone got into the act. This was one lucky dude... should have known better than to try and sail in that spot. http://www.sfsurvey.com/photos/sailH...ges/image1.htm -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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