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JG April 3rd 05 05:43 AM

This was on a 30 footer most recently, but previously on a 40.

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"Donal" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message
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We typically brought it through the forward hatch rather than the
companionway.


What size boat were you on?


Regards


Donal
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Donal April 4th 05 12:56 AM


"JG" wrote in message
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This was on a 30 footer most recently, but previously on a 40.


OK. I've never tried it. All my crew seem happy with the companionway --
and I don't have enough experience to overrule them.


Regards


Donal
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Donal April 4th 05 01:10 AM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Donal,

I believe you are talking about a full spinnaker with tack and sheets
and spinnaker pole


Yes, I was. All the photos on the site that Scotty posted a link to show a
spinnaker pole.


We are discussing a different breed here. the tack stays attached and
the clew is tacked, rather like a Jenny. It isn't a tack it is a Gybe
but only the clew comes across. Because it is downwind I run two sheets
to the clew. The working sheet I run around my stern docking Cleat and
back up to the sheet winch. The Lazy sheet I run outside the lee side of
the sail, forward of the forestay and outside of everything. Pulpit,
shrouds, lifelines and back to the other stern docking cleat (Nothing
on them while sailing)


That sounds like a "cruising chute".


Donal, when I Gybe no one leaves the cockpit, I head downwind but not
enough to gybe the main. Let go the working sheet, letting the spinning
fly forward of the stay, sail slightly windward (Actually to sail inside
the spinnaker, pull the lazy sheet and sail into the shadow of the main
and set the sheet. Then I gybe the main by sailing thru the wind,
filling the spinnaker and continuing the main gybe .

No one one the foredeck. With the Auto Pilot its a one man operation.


I think that we have our usual transAtlantic communication problem here(Same
words - different meanings). It looks like we would both offer the same
advice to Scotty.









Regards


Donal
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Thom Stewart April 4th 05 01:54 AM

JG,
If you don't have the spinnaker in a sausage or a turtle the area under
the main hatch gives the crew more room to work, like laying it out and
room to let it run. It easier than working on the V-berth.

Donal
If you get your crew to pack the Spinn In a bag properly; with the three
corner on top and clearly marked, you can hook the tack, halyard and
sheet and hoist it right out of the bag on the fore deck. A Spinn. Bag
usually has a strap on the bottom to clip it in place to let sail hoist
clean and the Bag stays in place,

There is also a thing called a turtle which holds that folded Spinn with
the three corners exposed. You just snap open the top and hoist away,

When you're cruising it really doesn't make that much difference is the
head is without a sail for awhile. You can take your time. When you do,
you will find ita rather easy sail to fly.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage


Thom Stewart April 4th 05 02:56 AM

Donal,

The pole is used on an Gennaker as North Sails calls them, from the mast
to the clew, as you would on a pole out a Jenny but really isn't
necessary if you're reaching. It does help the set of the sail as you
head downwind. You can also barbar haul on the pole to flatten the sail




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage


JG April 4th 05 03:50 AM

I beleive that the America's Cup boats bring the spin through the forward
hatch..

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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JG,
If you don't have the spinnaker in a sausage or a turtle the area under
the main hatch gives the crew more room to work, like laying it out and
room to let it run. It easier than working on the V-berth.

Donal
If you get your crew to pack the Spinn In a bag properly; with the three
corner on top and clearly marked, you can hook the tack, halyard and
sheet and hoist it right out of the bag on the fore deck. A Spinn. Bag
usually has a strap on the bottom to clip it in place to let sail hoist
clean and the Bag stays in place,

There is also a thing called a turtle which holds that folded Spinn with
the three corners exposed. You just snap open the top and hoist away,

When you're cruising it really doesn't make that much difference is the
head is without a sail for awhile. You can take your time. When you do,
you will find ita rather easy sail to fly.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage




Donal April 5th 05 01:31 AM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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JG,
If you don't have the spinnaker in a sausage or a turtle the area under
the main hatch gives the crew more room to work, like laying it out and
room to let it run. It easier than working on the V-berth.

Donal
If you get your crew to pack the Spinn In a bag properly; with the three
corner on top and clearly marked, you can hook the tack, halyard and
sheet and hoist it right out of the bag on the fore deck.


That is the way that we do it.

A Spinn. Bag
usually has a strap on the bottom to clip it in place to let sail hoist
clean and the Bag stays in place,


Again, that is the system that we use. The bag has three clips that hook
onto the guardwires(lifelines?).



There is also a thing called a turtle which holds that folded Spinn with
the three corners exposed. You just snap open the top and hoist away,


Our Spinaker bag does leave the three corners exposed, but I'm not sure if
it is a "turtle". I'm going to do a Google search to find out.



When you're cruising it really doesn't make that much difference is the
head is without a sail for awhile. You can take your time. When you do,
you will find ita rather easy sail to fly.


I usually only fly it when I've got experienced crew aboard. I've only
flown it once with the family aboard - and that was in 12 kts. My boat is
quite light, and she becomes very lively when the spinaker is up.


Regards


Donal
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Donal April 5th 05 01:35 AM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Donal,

The pole is used on an Gennaker as North Sails calls them, from the mast
to the clew, as you would on a pole out a Jenny but really isn't
necessary if you're reaching. It does help the set of the sail as you
head downwind. You can also barbar haul on the pole to flatten the sail


Ah! I understand. Yet another demonstration of "Two nations seperated by
a common language"!!

I suppose that I should have noticed that the poles were attached to the
sheets!!!



Regards


Donal
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