DSK wrote:
Did you read this before you cut-n-pasted it, Joe?

Joe wrote:
Hinzman is from Rapid City, South Dakota and has already served a
tour
of duty in Afghanistan.

It seems to me that a soldier who served one tour of duty in
Afghanistan
may be a deserter, but he's not a coward or a traitor.

That because you give no creedence to a oath.
You were in the military...or so you say

Guess you forgot everything you swore.

Here Dougieee let me re-fresh you swiftly dwindling memory.

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlistees):

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and
the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations
and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

The Oath of Office (for officers):

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the
United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly
swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of
the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will
bear true faith and allegiance tot he same; that I take this obligation
freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that
I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon
which I am about to enter; So help me God."







Maybe you think
he should be tortured, too?

20 years in Kansas making little ones out of big ones will do.

Joe



This is a new low.

What that you respect and support cowards and traitors that turn thier
backs on fellow soldiers and country?

Guess since W is president and commander and chief it's OK.

Yelp you have set a new low!

Joe

Joe

DSK

Joey is reliving the past... when men were men and sheep were nervous.

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

DSK wrote:
Did you read this before you cut-n-pasted it, Joe?

Joe wrote:
Hinzman is from Rapid City, South Dakota and has already served a
tour
of duty in Afghanistan.

It seems to me that a soldier who served one tour of duty in
Afghanistan
may be a deserter, but he's not a coward or a traitor.

That because you give no creedence to a oath.
You were in the military...or so you say

Guess you forgot everything you swore.

Here Dougieee let me re-fresh you swiftly dwindling memory.

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlistees):

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and
the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations
and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

The Oath of Office (for officers):

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the
United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly
swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of
the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will
bear true faith and allegiance tot he same; that I take this obligation
freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that
I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon
which I am about to enter; So help me God."







Maybe you think
he should be tortured, too?

20 years in Kansas making little ones out of big ones will do.

Joe



This is a new low.

What that you respect and support cowards and traitors that turn thier
backs on fellow soldiers and country?

Guess since W is president and commander and chief it's OK.

Yelp you have set a new low!

Joe

Joe

DSK

Jonboy. That is the oath the traitor swore to. I'm quite sure you feel
it's OK to stab your country and friends in the back ( or in your case
the ass). But most honorable people do not. When you solemnly swear to
do something you better follow thru or your a lowlife ****ball liar
scum.

Do you think that coward paid back the 10,000 dollar enlistment bonus
he accepted when he joined up?

Not only is he a coward.. he is a thief, that stole from you and I,
that is IF you pay taxes.

Joe

Joey, keep posting your filth. At some point, people will realize you have a
serious personality disorder. You might want to consider getting treatment
sooner rather than later.

In any case, you still haven't said when your flight leaves.

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www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jonboy. That is the oath the traitor swore to. I'm quite sure you feel
it's OK to stab your country and friends in the back ( or in your case
the ass). But most honorable people do not. When you solemnly swear to
do something you better follow thru or your a lowlife ****ball liar
scum.

Do you think that coward paid back the 10,000 dollar enlistment bonus
he accepted when he joined up?

Not only is he a coward.. he is a thief, that stole from you and I,
that is IF you pay taxes.

Joe

"Joe" wrote
"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States

That's a tough one - having to obey orders from the Constitution's worst
enemy.

It seems to me that a soldier who served one tour of duty in
Afghanistan
may be a deserter, but he's not a coward or a traitor.


Joe wrote:
That because you give no creedence to a oath.

Not true at all.

You were in the military...or so you say


If I were going to lie, I'd make it more impressive.


Guess you forgot everything you swore.


Nope. Wrong again. I'm just not as quick to condemn as you are. Maybe I
don't have some kind of psychological need to hate others.

DSK

Quick to condemn?

He admits he is a deserter.

I did not condemn him he did it to himself, what about that do you not
understand. It's not like we are missing evidence, or proof.

Do you support liars?

And BTW he is a traitor.

Definitions of traitor on the Web:

someone who betrays his country by committing treason
double-crosser: a person who says one thing and does another
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn

Definitions of treason on the Web:

a crime that undermines the offender's government
disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
treachery: an act of deliberate betrayal
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn

Do you need me to define betrayal?

Joe

Joe wrote:
Quick to condemn?


Yes, as in calling people ugly names.

I bet you probably would not to his face.


He admits he is a deserter.


That does not make him a traitor nor a coward.

It's possible that he is one, or both, but why rush to condemn him based
on your political prejudices? If you are so enthusiastic about war in
Iraq, why not go yourself? Are you a coward?

DSK

First off Doug he admits he's a deserter. Fact

I would say it to his face without hesitation. Fact

His actions define him as a traitor. Fact

Politics have nothing to do with it. Fact

And I honored and lived up to the oath I took when I joined, If I took
one now... I would do the same. Fact.

Joe

Be Careful Joe;

Jon and Doug are both in the process of sloping and slanting YOUR post
about the TRAITOR and making you the DEFENDENT!

OT