http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2005/Mar...35a94f13a.html

An American serviceman who has refused to serve in the war in Iraq was
denied a bid for asylum in Canada Thursday. The Canadian refugee board
ruled that 26-year-old Jeremy Hinzman would not face unfair persecution
if he returned to the U.S. because he refused to fight in what he is
calling an illegal war.

Hinzman is from Rapid City, South Dakota and has already served a tour
of duty in Afghanistan. He left Fort Bragg, North Carolina in January
after his unit was given orders to deploy to Iraq. Hinzman is part of
the 82nd Airborne Division.

Hinzman's attorney, Jeffry House, said his client was not giving up
despite the decision. 'Obviously we are disappointed,' House said. 'We
certainly are not giving up. We believe the decision is wrong, and we
will appeal it.'

House noted that Hinzman was not permitted to raise what he felt was
the 'illegality' of the war in Iraq and its effect on Iraqi civilians.
The board noted that the United States was a democracy and that
Hinzman's punishment if he returned to the U.S., what he would face
would be 'not excessive or disproportionately severe.'

It is estimated that there are approximately 100 American armed service
personnel in Canada who have refused to serve in the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan. Hinzman's case was the first to be heard by the refugee
board.

Brad Kurtzberg

Did you read this before you cut-n-pasted it, Joe?

Joe wrote:
Hinzman is from Rapid City, South Dakota and has already served a tour
of duty in Afghanistan.

It seems to me that a soldier who served one tour of duty in Afghanistan
may be a deserter, but he's not a coward or a traitor. Maybe you think
he should be tortured, too?

This is a new low.

DSK

Guess he found out he couldnet hack it, so he ran like a little girl to
Canada. Screw him and you.

It is an all volunteer service. Once you give your word you better
keep it.

I hope he gets 20 years in the slammer along with all the other cowards
that ran like wussies cowards to Canaduh.

Joe

When's your flight?

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Guess he found out he couldnet hack it, so he ran like a little girl to
Canada. Screw him and you.

It is an all volunteer service. Once you give your word you better
keep it.

I hope he gets 20 years in the slammer along with all the other cowards
that ran like wussies cowards to Canaduh.

Joe

Shut up gayboy, you have nothing to say about it. Remember you did not
serve.

Joe

Bwahahahaa..... keep posting your filth and your lies. I'm sure at some
point people we realize you're the one who's gay.

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Shut up gayboy, you have nothing to say about it. Remember you did not
serve.

Joe

DSK wrote:
Did you read this before you cut-n-pasted it, Joe?

Joe wrote:
Hinzman is from Rapid City, South Dakota and has already served a
tour
of duty in Afghanistan.

It seems to me that a soldier who served one tour of duty in
Afghanistan
may be a deserter, but he's not a coward or a traitor.

That because you give no creedence to a oath.
You were in the military...or so you say

Guess you forgot everything you swore.

Here Dougieee let me re-fresh you swiftly dwindling memory.

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlistees):

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and
the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations
and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

The Oath of Office (for officers):

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the
United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly
swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of
the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will
bear true faith and allegiance tot he same; that I take this obligation
freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that
I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon
which I am about to enter; So help me God."







Maybe you think
he should be tortured, too?

20 years in Kansas making little ones out of big ones will do.

Joe



This is a new low.

What that you respect and support cowards and traitors that turn thier
backs on fellow soldiers and country?

Guess since W is president and commander and chief it's OK.

Yelp you have set a new low!

Joe

Joe

DSK

Joey is reliving the past... when men were men and sheep were nervous.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:
Did you read this before you cut-n-pasted it, Joe?

Joe wrote:
Hinzman is from Rapid City, South Dakota and has already served a
tour
of duty in Afghanistan.

It seems to me that a soldier who served one tour of duty in
Afghanistan
may be a deserter, but he's not a coward or a traitor.

That because you give no creedence to a oath.
You were in the military...or so you say

Guess you forgot everything you swore.

Here Dougieee let me re-fresh you swiftly dwindling memory.

The Oath of Enlistment (for enlistees):

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend
the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and
the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations
and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

The Oath of Office (for officers):

"I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the
United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly
swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of
the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will
bear true faith and allegiance tot he same; that I take this obligation
freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that
I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon
which I am about to enter; So help me God."







Maybe you think
he should be tortured, too?

20 years in Kansas making little ones out of big ones will do.

Joe



This is a new low.

What that you respect and support cowards and traitors that turn thier
backs on fellow soldiers and country?

Guess since W is president and commander and chief it's OK.

Yelp you have set a new low!

Joe

Joe

DSK

Jonboy. That is the oath the traitor swore to. I'm quite sure you feel
it's OK to stab your country and friends in the back ( or in your case
the ass). But most honorable people do not. When you solemnly swear to
do something you better follow thru or your a lowlife ****ball liar
scum.

Do you think that coward paid back the 10,000 dollar enlistment bonus
he accepted when he joined up?

Not only is he a coward.. he is a thief, that stole from you and I,
that is IF you pay taxes.

Joe

Joey, keep posting your filth. At some point, people will realize you have a
serious personality disorder. You might want to consider getting treatment
sooner rather than later.

In any case, you still haven't said when your flight leaves.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Jonboy. That is the oath the traitor swore to. I'm quite sure you feel
it's OK to stab your country and friends in the back ( or in your case
the ass). But most honorable people do not. When you solemnly swear to
do something you better follow thru or your a lowlife ****ball liar
scum.

Do you think that coward paid back the 10,000 dollar enlistment bonus
he accepted when he joined up?

Not only is he a coward.. he is a thief, that stole from you and I,
that is IF you pay taxes.

Joe