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Does anyone know if it was the north or the south entrance?
My cruising guides and charts indicate that the north entrance is subject to shoaling and should be avoided. I'm curious which entrance they were making for. |
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Absolutely. I've found students, especially those who are near the end of
the class I teach, to be quite eagar to get those sails furled and the halyards unclipped. Bad move if you need to get a sail up quickly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Red Cloud©" wrote in message news On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:43:43 -0800, "Alan Gomes" wrote: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/032...p_aground.html Some folks are so "neat and orderly" obsessed that they overlook the fact that sails should not be furled until you are well past tricky entrances. You never know when you are suddenly going to need them. The story mentions that the Irving Johnson's sails were furled. Someone in charge apparently was more concerned with style than safety. Dumb move. Bad result. Some key sails should have been kept at the ready. red |
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Brien Alkire wrote:
Does anyone know if it was the north or the south entrance? My cruising guides and charts indicate that the north entrance is subject to shoaling and should be avoided. I'm curious which entrance they were making for. South or G East entrance, depending on your point of view. Sad part is, that in watching, their was a point where the bow was close to being on the breakwater, that the wind, current, whatever, turned the boat so that it was pointing to sea. Considering the boats movement, if there had been someone still aboard and the engine was still operational, they may have been able to power her off. Shortly after this point, the boat turned further to port and beached port side too. Presently there are divers in attendance, rigging a tow line with the hopes of pulling her off in the morning. All day the wind has been SE 20-30k (not good) and it's obvious she is silting in ..... hope they make it, but I'm not optimistic. otn |
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I certainly would not refer to idiots who would run aground like
those jerks did, 'sailors'. Sails were furled said the article. They were motoring - just another motorboat - take it to rec.boats please. CN "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... "Alan Gomes" wrote in news:a8adncHccqo9I6LfRVn- : http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/032...p_aground.html I don't suppose THESE sailors made any comments about shooting at jetskiiers with guns and missles.....like I've seen in the past on these newsgroups.....(c; Hypothermia might have been a problem without those "damned jetskiiers" so quickly on the scene..... |
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The "jetskiers" were members of the local fire/sheriff swif****er rescue
teams "Larry W4CSC" wrote in message ... "Alan Gomes" wrote in news:a8adncHccqo9I6LfRVn- : http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/032...p_aground.html I don't suppose THESE sailors made any comments about shooting at jetskiiers with guns and missles.....like I've seen in the past on these newsgroups.....(c; Hypothermia might have been a problem without those "damned jetskiiers" so quickly on the scene..... |
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It still is......for now...
I was talking to a guy who spent all last week on the yacht, as the cook. He told me that the vessel drew 11' and the keel was 73'..... That would leave little room for error in what I know to be a heavily shoaled entrance. I was just there last week delivering a motoryacht. My guess is that as they approached from the south, they did not stand off the coast until the last and then run straight in towards the detached breakwater(and beach), turning sharply to port inside the lee as they rode or followed a wave in. They probably saved time with a direct route that kept the seas on the port beam as they aproached and found themselves with breaking surf on them at the entrance! Maybe not broaching them, yet certainly carrying them precious valuable and non affordable feet to leeward, and onto the shoal. Captain Mack www.gosailnow.com |
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Alan Gomes wrote: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/032...p_aground.html Those ships (Irving and Exy) are Crelock designs, absolutely beautiful. I've sailed on them. I can't understand why the anchors are still aboard and the dinghy is in the davits. First thing I would have done was to run all the anchors I could find as far out as possible and try to horse the thing head to the swell and wind. |
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Jim wrote:
I can't understand why the anchors are still aboard and the dinghy is in the davits. First thing I would have done was to run all the anchors I could find as far out as possible and try to horse the thing head to the swell and wind. The seas were such that the dinghy would probably have swamped before you got 100 ft out. It is a beautiful boat, but not worth a human life. Lew |
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I certainly would not refer to idiots who would run aground like those jerks did, 'sailors'. Sails were furled said the article. They were motoring - just another motorboat - take it to rec.boats please. CN Oh boy! this *was* a nice peaceful newsgroup......... a respite from the rabble at wrecked boats. |
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