lens \"lenz\ n [L lent-, lens lentil; so called fr. the shape of a convex lens] 1 : a curved piece of glass or plastic used singly
or combined in an optical instrument for forming an image; also : a device for focusing radiation other than light 2 : a transparent
body in the eye that focuses light rays on receptors at the back of the eye

© 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

I hope this helps.

CN
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:8xIWd.17139$fc4.15873@edtnps89...
Wrong you both are... deep submersibles use a 10" "lens" as a view port

Sunglasses have lenses and yet do not alter the vision.

The pair of you should try learning as an option to spouting.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ...


Right you are yet again, Joe. Thanks for backing me up
with your usual common sense and knowledge of boating
related issues.

I tried to tell that ignorant putz, JR, the same thing but he
is too smug and self-absorbed to listen to the facts.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.


They do that so they can charge suckers more.

It is not a lens. A lens is a transparent optical device used to
converge or diverge transmitted light and to form images.

Hope this helps

Joe

Don't be such an anal Pane...

CM
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


lens \"lenz\ n [L lent-, lens lentil; so called fr. the shape of a convex
lens] 1 : a curved piece of glass or plastic used singly or combined in an
optical instrument for forming an image; also : a device for focusing
radiation other than light 2 : a transparent body in the eye that focuses
light rays on receptors at the back of the eye

© 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by
Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

I hope this helps.

CN
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:8xIWd.17139$fc4.15873@edtnps89...
Wrong you both are... deep submersibles use a 10" "lens" as a view port

Sunglasses have lenses and yet do not alter the vision.

The pair of you should try learning as an option to spouting.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


Right you are yet again, Joe. Thanks for backing me up
with your usual common sense and knowledge of boating
related issues.

I tried to tell that ignorant putz, JR, the same thing but he
is too smug and self-absorbed to listen to the facts.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.


They do that so they can charge suckers more.

It is not a lens. A lens is a transparent optical device used to
converge or diverge transmitted light and to form images.

Hope this helps

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Wrong again Mooron. Subs have viewing ports not lenses unless the are
concave or convex and reshape light transmitted thru them. .

Only reason sunglasses have Lenses is because they are a rip off of the
proper name of perscription lenses used in standard eye glasses that
predate sunglasses. The proper terms is sunglasses or filters, not
sunlenses.

You should try learning before spouting off.

Quit being a Pane in the ass....

If I lost 30 lbs. I'd be emaciated...Mr Sails would not appreciate that at
all...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Glass is a heck of a lot heavier than Lexan...which makes a difference
for anyone that has a performance boat...I'd stick with Lexan...

If you were really worried about performance of your French Failure,
you would go on a diet and lose about thirty pounds. Mr. Sails would
appreciate THAT a lot more than a hatch that weighed two pounds less.

CN

"Dave" wrote in message ...

Deck a hooker out in furs, and you have, not a princess, but a hooker
dressed in furs.

Negative - you have Horvath's girlfriend . . .


CN

"Joe" wrote in message

It is not a lens. A lens is a transparent optical device used to
converge or diverge transmitted light and to form images.

Really? And what exactly does a plano lens do?

Max

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Sunglasses have lenses and yet do not alter the vision.

Actually they do.


Max

"Joe" wrote in message

Wrong again Mooron. Subs have viewing ports not lenses unless the are
concave or convex and reshape light transmitted thru them. .

Um, wrong again.

Only reason sunglasses have Lenses is because they are a rip off of the
proper name of perscription lenses used in standard eye glasses that
predate sunglasses. The proper terms is sunglasses or filters, not
sunlenses.

And again.

You should try learning before spouting off.

So should you, Joe. Lenses do a wide variety of things, including causing
light to diverge or converge, as you've implied. They occasionally do
nothing at all, such as with plano lenses. They can act as light filters,
as with sunglass lenses. They can neither diverge nor converge light, but
bend light, aka prismatic lenses. They can affect color vision, aka colored
filter lenses. They can simply reduce light level without coloration, aka
neutral density lenses. And the list goes on, and they are ALL properly
called lenses.

So are those glass or resin plano "windows" in portholes, etc. It's a
traditional term in those cases.

Max

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


lens \"lenz\ n [L lent-, lens lentil; so called fr. the shape of a convex
lens] 1 : a curved piece of glass or plastic used singly or combined in an
optical instrument for forming an image; also : a device for focusing
radiation other than light 2 : a transparent body in the eye that focuses
light rays on receptors at the back of the eye

© 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by
Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

A simplistic layman's definition at best, and far from inclusive or
esoteric. Plano lenses, for example, used in spectacles are curved both
front and back, and allow light to pass through them without being
refracted. Should I continue?

Max

Don't bother...it's like providing sex education to a eunuch...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


lens \"lenz\ n [L lent-, lens lentil; so called fr. the shape of a convex
lens] 1 : a curved piece of glass or plastic used singly or combined in
an optical instrument for forming an image; also : a device for focusing
radiation other than light 2 : a transparent body in the eye that focuses
light rays on receptors at the back of the eye

© 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by
Merriam-Webster, Incorporated

A simplistic layman's definition at best, and far from inclusive or
esoteric. Plano lenses, for example, used in spectacles are curved both
front and back, and allow light to pass through them without being
refracted. Should I continue?

Max

Do you know what we call people from the town of Plano just outside of
Dallas?

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message

Do you know what we call people from the town of Plano just outside of
Dallas?

Let me guess. Plano assholes?

Max

Maxprop wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

Do you know what we call people from the town of Plano just outside
of
Dallas?

Let me guess. Plano assholes?

During Footballs season maybe...mostly Plano People.

The plano lens is either convex-concave on one side and Plano Flat on
the other. If just flat then it is not a lens. . That simple Max.

Joe

Max

Hi Joe
If "lens" is a universally accepted nautical term for a hatch glass I
don't see any problem using it. After all we don't call the line
attached to the mainsail the mainrope. At least the people I sail with
don't.
JR

Joe wrote:

Maxprop wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message


Do you know what we call people from the town of Plano just outside

of

Dallas?

Let me guess. Plano assholes?


During Footballs season maybe...mostly Plano People.

The plano lens is either convex-concave on one side and Plano Flat on
the other. If just flat then it is not a lens. . That simple Max.

Joe

Max

I live in this universe, have lived and worked on boats since 1977 and
have never heard the term "lens" used for the proper term "Glass" in a
port. If we slack up on the little things.. then you open the door for
people to slack on the proper terms of the importamt things. On boats,
and for sure sailboat knowing the proper terms and names might keep you
from getting injured or killing someone. Crytal clear concise terms can
mean the difference of life of death.

But hey thats just my opinion, Please feel free to run your boat any
way you want to...

Joe

wrote:


Major hatch manufactures such as BOMAR use the term "Lens" when
describing their products. It's an industry term. It may (or may not)
be jargon, but it is legitimate usage. It's the term marine
professionals use.

BB

Bob,

This is a proper
porthole:http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/i...00/i01577t.jpg

Any fleet sailor will tell you that if your shut this porthole the
glass reads "ARMORED GLASS" not armored lens. Boman sells product to
the Navy. The Navy is a stickler on proper nautical terms last timed I
checked.

Joe



Joe wrote:

Maxprop wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message


Do you know what we call people from the town of Plano just
outside

of

Dallas?

Let me guess. Plano assholes?


During Footballs season maybe...mostly Plano People.

The plano lens is either convex-concave on one side and Plano
Flat on
the other. If just flat then it is not a lens. . That simple Max.

Joe

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Sunglasses have lenses and yet do not alter the vision.

Actually they do.

Yeah okay... I see what you mean... polarization, colour etc.
So do hatch lenses.... in Lexan.

CM



Max

OzOne wrote in message

Nope, the Navy is a stickler for using term it deems correct....it
ignores many in common useage!

Aw come on Ozone.... it took a team of 10 people sixteen days to come up
with that label for military portholes.

CM

"katysails" wrote:
Ours are too, but the glass is rose-colored and when we priced it out we
decided crazed was just fine with us...

Katy looks through "crazed rose-colored" lexan and she wonders why she
doesn't see things too clearly.

LP

Katy wrote this on Feb 20, 2005:
What twaddle....this is a ng, mt dear...Do I have to keep reminding you of
that? You've obviously confused it with real life. Now go take a Midol and
have a cup of tea...green, preferably, it's better for you...and enjoy your
nice fresh air...

wrote:


Yeah, the NAVY is such a stickler for accuracy and proper marine
terms that they
call some of their staff by a name that the dictionary says is
actually a large
sea-going mammal with flippers, that barks like a dog. I bet few of
those NAVY
seals can balance a beachball on their nose, either!

BB

Special Enviromental Assault Leaders dufass.

Joe

wrote in message
Well, I agree that you are a dufass. The truth of the matter is that
they coined the name, and then reverse engineered the acronym to fit.

Have some respect Bubba... it took 20 men 20 months to come up with that...

CM

"Joe" wrote in message

The plano lens is either convex-concave on one side and Plano Flat on
the other.

Not quite. IF concave on one side and flat on the other, it's a minus power
lens. IF convex on one side and flat on the other, it's a plus power lens.
The only way a plano lens can be curved is for it to be convex on one side
and concave on the other. The curvature of each respective side will depend
upon the index of refraction of the lens material in order to remain plano
in power.

If just flat then it is not a lens. . That simple Max.

Hardly. Any plano-plano transparent media can become a lens, dependent upon
its usage. For example, a neutral density lens for a camera is almost
always plano-plano, as are colored filters for the same purpose. All are
correctly termed lenses.

Do you really want to continue this debate? You're out of your league here.

Max

Maxprop wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

The plano lens is either convex-concave on one side and Plano Flat
on
the other.

Not quite. IF concave on one side and flat on the other, it's a
minus power
lens. IF convex on one side and flat on the other, it's a plus power
lens.
The only way a plano lens can be curved is for it to be convex on one
side
and concave on the other. The curvature of each respective side will
depend
upon the index of refraction of the lens material in order to remain
plano
in power.

If just flat then it is not a lens. . That simple Max.

Hardly. Any plano-plano transparent media can become a lens,
dependent upon
its usage. For example, a neutral density lens for a camera is
almost
always plano-plano, as are colored filters for the same purpose. All
are
correctly termed lenses.

Do you really want to continue this debate? You're out of your
league here.

Max


No not really. I Refuse To Have A Battle Of Wits With An Unarmed
Person. :0)

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message

I live in this universe, have lived and worked on boats since 1977 and
have never heard the term "lens" used for the proper term "Glass" in a
port.

An old merchant marine sailor, who lived down the street from me while I was
growing up, gave me an old bronze opening port one year for Christmas. The
glass was cracked, and he told me he'd make me a new "lens" for it. Later
he appeared at our door with a circular piece of flat, tempered glass, which
he used to replace the broken "lens."

Not sure where you got your experience, but I think this old sailor knew his
terminology.

If we slack up on the little things.. then you open the door for
people to slack on the proper terms of the importamt things. On boats,
and for sure sailboat knowing the proper terms and names might keep you
from getting injured or killing someone. Crytal clear concise terms can
mean the difference of life of death.

Reuters News Agency:
A sailor was killed when he entered his boat's galley to make himself
another rum and coke. The reason for his death is unsure, but his crew have
their own opinions as to what killed the skipper.
"That idiot was always calling it the 'kitchen.' Serves him right, the
jerk," said Moke Gibbons, about the boat's owner. "He was just bucking for
an early demise."


Max

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:24:51 GMT, "Capt. Mooron"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message

Nope, the Navy is a stickler for using term it deems correct....it
ignores many in common useage!

Aw come on Ozone.... it took a team of 10 people sixteen days to come up
with that label for military portholes.

CM

Only 10?

Hell, that was just a small committee.

Max

wrote in message


sea-going mammal with flippers, that barks like a dog. I bet few of those
NAVY
seals can balance a beachball on their nose, either!

SEALs, all caps.

Max

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"katysails" wrote:
Ours are too, but the glass is rose-colored and when we priced it out we
decided crazed was just fine with us...

Katy looks through "crazed rose-colored" lexan and she wonders why she
doesn't see things too clearly.

For not being angry (your claim) you certainly seem to be carrying a major
grudge, LP.

Max

OzOne wrote in message

Maybe a few of those Special Environmental Assault Leaders can come
over here and help us out with our Cleanup Australia Day!?

The specialize in environmental assault... not environmental remediation
Ozone!

CM

Your just jelious because they have knifes built to serve a purpose,
not just for looks.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Your just jelious because they have knifes built to serve a purpose,
not just for looks.

I ain't jelious aw nuthin'..... SEALS are over-rated... nothing compared
to the Aussie and Brit Special Forces.

CM

OzOne wrote in message

They can leave their Hummers at home!

From what I understand they can't even pick their asses without orders, a
map and directions.... you expect they should pick up litter??

CM

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 21:44:39 GMT, "Capt. Mooron"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message

They can leave their Hummers at home!

From what I understand they can't even pick their asses without orders, a
map and directions.... you expect they should pick up litter??

CM


They're not smart enough to pick up litter?
Jesus, do they stand up when the shooting starts.

I hear they shoot anything that moves..Italian journalist, alied
soldiers....I'm still putting my money on them for that Hercules!

They couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they were locked inside...
that's why they load them to the teeth with ordinance.... the fluke shot
principal.

CM