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Nordica 30 really a good boat.
Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to
abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. CN |
Knowing Mooron...personally....
I would have to say....that "even if" that boat goes out once a year.....you can bet that outing is intense and exciting. (probably more then anyone can handle here) Mooron lives to the moment...and any trip.......would be not be boring one...... We here in the great white north may not have as many days to sail......as you.... But we use every day out to the fullest... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. I purchased my Nordica 30 after lenghty reasearch, many inspections and countless hours of negotiation. After looking at 6 other Nordica 30s for sale... I fell in love with this particular boat and would have no other. I purchased the largest boat I could afford and single hand. Overproof is lovingly cared for and treated like a family member. It is a well known vessel and is always welcomed to any raft-ups. My neprhews and nieces have cut their sailing teeth and learned their navigational skills aboard. They still tell the tales of Overproof in Yellowknife. My engagements with the local law enforement and regulatory agencies are legend on the lake. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. I would no sooner entertain selling my vessel than you would parting with Cut The Mustard! We know our vessels and their abilities as well as limitations and nuances. CM |
Is this the Overproof that's been on mooring in Mahone Bay for the past
couple of years? "Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. I purchased my Nordica 30 after lenghty reasearch, many inspections and countless hours of negotiation. After looking at 6 other Nordica 30s for sale... I fell in love with this particular boat and would have no other. I purchased the largest boat I could afford and single hand. Overproof is lovingly cared for and treated like a family member. It is a well known vessel and is always welcomed to any raft-ups. My neprhews and nieces have cut their sailing teeth and learned their navigational skills aboard. They still tell the tales of Overproof in Yellowknife. My engagements with the local law enforement and regulatory agencies are legend on the lake. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. I would no sooner entertain selling my vessel than you would parting with Cut The Mustard! We know our vessels and their abilities as well as limitations and nuances. CM |
Gull Rock's wrote: Knowing Mooron...personally.... I would have to say....that "even if" that boat goes out once a year.....you can bet that outing is intense and exciting. (probably more then anyone can handle here) Gull Rock, Down here in Texas you snow clowns would blush bright red at the antics and fun we create sailing down here...not to mention your pearly lilly white skin would turn red as a tomato in 46 mins. Mooron lives to the moment...and any trip.......would be not be boring one...... We here in the great white north may not have as many days to sail......as you.... But we use every day out to the fullest... Sorta like your dying or dead half the year huh? Here we live our lives to the fullest 365 days a year. Joe "Capt. Neal=AE" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. CN |
Yup......
"Dry" wrote in message ... Is this the Overproof that's been on mooring in Mahone Bay for the past couple of years? |
We have met on a few occasions at the wharf, I drive the silver Audi TT.
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: Yup...... "Dry" wrote in message ... Is this the Overproof that's been on mooring in Mahone Bay for the past couple of years? |
Right on...... how are things up that way? Any more news on the wharf and
storage issues? I've got Overproof at the Bay Landing in Prospect. We had a great trip bringing her over to Prospect from Mahone Bay. I didn't get much sailing in last year due to work. I think I will keep her in Shad Bay this year just off our property. CM "Dry" wrote in message ... We have met on a few occasions at the wharf, I drive the silver Audi TT. "Capt. Mooron" wrote: Yup...... "Dry" wrote in message ... Is this the Overproof that's been on mooring in Mahone Bay for the past couple of years? |
We are white to adapt to the blowing snow......
I like to see you sun seekers last a full day in sub degree weather :) "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Gull Rock's wrote: Knowing Mooron...personally.... I would have to say....that "even if" that boat goes out once a year.....you can bet that outing is intense and exciting. (probably more then anyone can handle here) Gull Rock, Down here in Texas you snow clowns would blush bright red at the antics and fun we create sailing down here...not to mention your pearly lilly white skin would turn red as a tomato in 46 mins. Mooron lives to the moment...and any trip.......would be not be boring one...... We here in the great white north may not have as many days to sail......as you.... But we use every day out to the fullest... Sorta like your dying or dead half the year huh? Here we live our lives to the fullest 365 days a year. Joe "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. CN |
Those guys are walking, talkin' Pussys when it comes to weather! That's why
they live where they do. The only blast of cold air they can tolerate is the brief opening and closing of the refrigerator. Their blood is thin and weak... while northern blood runs thick and strong. CM "Gull Rock's" wrote in message ... We are white to adapt to the blowing snow...... I like to see you sun seekers last a full day in sub degree weather :) "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Gull Rock's wrote: Knowing Mooron...personally.... I would have to say....that "even if" that boat goes out once a year.....you can bet that outing is intense and exciting. (probably more then anyone can handle here) Gull Rock, Down here in Texas you snow clowns would blush bright red at the antics and fun we create sailing down here...not to mention your pearly lilly white skin would turn red as a tomato in 46 mins. Mooron lives to the moment...and any trip.......would be not be boring one...... We here in the great white north may not have as many days to sail......as you.... But we use every day out to the fullest... Sorta like your dying or dead half the year huh? Here we live our lives to the fullest 365 days a year. Joe "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. CN |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
Those guys are walking, talkin' Pussys when it comes to weather! That's why they live where they do. The only blast of cold air they can tolerate is the brief opening and closing of the refrigerator. Their blood is thin and weak... while northern blood runs thick and strong. Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts, and we can land & hold a job in a climate where there is actually competition rather than a tremendous labor shortage. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts, and we can land & hold a job in a climate where there is actually competition rather than a tremendous labor shortage. Wooooooo.... drug addled braggarts now..... and can't hold a job..... My my my... it's Binary Bill a La Doug Trawler! Since this wasn't directed at you but you seem to be in need of attention.... I'll pencil you in. CM |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
Wooooooo.... drug addled braggarts now..... and can't hold a job..... I didn't say that. Since this wasn't directed at you but you seem to be in need of attention.... I'll pencil you in. heh heh I bet everybody but you laughed! DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message I didn't say that. Really Doug?? ..... "Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts, and we can land & hold a job in a climate where there is actually competition rather than a tremendous labor shortage" heh heh I bet everybody but you laughed! I'm willing to bet the only one that laughed was the simpleton that wrote it. Well what the ****... it's just a newsgroup. It's not like you'd be man enough to mouth off like that to me face to face. I'm certain it's just your Viagra talkin'.... CM |
I didn't say that.
Capt. Mooron wrote: Really Doug?? ..... "Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts, and we can land & hold a job in a climate where there is actually competition rather than a tremendous labor shortage" You been takin' JAXAshby pills or something? Take another look at what you just quoted. Read the second part of that sentence nice & slow. heh heh I bet everybody but you laughed! I'm willing to bet the only one that laughed was the simpleton that wrote it. Simpleton? Now you've hurt my feelings. Well what the ****... it's just a newsgroup. It's not like you'd be man enough to mouth off like that to me face to face. Guess again. Oh wait, you have a really scary knife... ... I'm certain it's just your Viagra talkin'.... Maybe so, you have more experience in this area than I. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message .. . I didn't say that. Capt. Mooron wrote: Really Doug?? ..... "Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts, and we can land & hold a job in a climate where there is actually competition rather than a tremendous labor shortage" You been takin' JAXAshby pills or something? Take another look at what you just quoted. Read the second part of that sentence nice & slow. Heh! .... it reads as you wrote it.... "Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts" Since you are replying to me on a post to someone else... I take it you have a insult that you seem to consider worth delivery... what... you now saying you didn't mean it?? Simpleton? Now you've hurt my feelings. Sorry...it wasn't meant as an insult.... it was a descriptive adjective. Guess again. Oh wait, you have a really scary knife... Relax... I wouldn't unsheath the blade for an opponent the likes of you.... a back hand would do just fine. Maybe so, you have more experience in this area than I. Yeah Sure Doug..... your sudden bravado and spinal growth isn't indicative of drug use is it? CM |
You been takin' JAXAshby pills or something?
Take another look at what you just quoted. Read the second part of that sentence nice & slow. Capt. Mooron wrote: Heh! .... it reads as you wrote it.... "Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts" Since you are replying to me on a post to someone else... I take it you have a insult that you seem to consider worth delivery... what... you now saying you didn't mean it?? No, I'm saying that a conditional is apparently beyond your ken. But at least you realized it's an insult. Simpleton? Now you've hurt my feelings. Sorry...it wasn't meant as an insult.... it was a descriptive adjective. Oh, OK. Backing down, eh? Oh wait, you have a really scary knife... Relax... I wouldn't unsheath the blade for an opponent the likes of you.... a back hand would do just fine. To save wear and tear on your palms? Yeah Sure Doug..... your sudden bravado and spinal growth isn't indicative of drug use is it? Not hardly. Or at least, not any drugs other than Ibuprofen and caffeine. DSK |
OzOne wrote in message How much you got left in that bottle Mooron? With that kind of rational .... it's surprising you have a business let alone a profit Ozone! Occasionally I may get short on cash.... but I make damn well certain I have sufficent inventory on hand to handle 25% above expected pay load. Just heard it on the radio... blizzard comin'.... 30cm of snow.... gusts to 60kph. There must be a God... my prayers have been answered!! CM |
Dusted with PCP right?
Joe |
"DSK" wrote in message No, I'm saying that a conditional is apparently beyond your ken. But at least you realized it's an insult. The hell you say.... you're the one backing up... not me! I called you on it and you implied that you didn't mean what you said... but now you say you did? Make up your mind Doug... either you are calling me a drug addled braggart or you're not. Don't worry ... I won't slap you around too hard... just enough to let you understand you ain't above me on the peckin' order around here! Oh, OK. Backing down, eh? No Doug, I ain't..... you really do act like a simpleton on many occasions..... especially when you start to over-estimate your value! To save wear and tear on your palms? No Doug... I save the back of my hand for pussies and pretentious little smucks that step out of line. Not hardly. Or at least, not any drugs other than Ibuprofen and caffeine. Yeah Dougy .... that's right.... you are free to attribute your sudden weekly rise in virility to your clean livin' and wholesome outlook! CM |
Dear Capt. Mooron,
It is a pleasure to be in the company of another besides Joe, who knows what he wants in a sailboat and goes out and gets it. I realize your present circumstances keep you from sailing to your heart's content and, even if I give you a ration of sh*t from time to time, I do so knowing you are secure in the knowledge that your boat is the best boat for you. Even I, Capt. Neal, would be proud to own and sail such a fine boat. As a matter of fact, I looked at a couple Nordica 30's several years ago with the intent of moving up to a sturdy, blue water vessel but then decided coastal cruising with an occasional blue water jaunt was more to my liking so I stuck with my tried and true vessel and made modifications so she was more blue water capable but still nimble and handy. Such is the compromise of sailing yachts. You are so unlike most so-called sailors, of whom Bobsprit is a good example, in that you didn't buy a boat to impress your friends. You bought it to satisfy yourself. A sailboat is an extension of one's self and no mistake. Your boat says, "Here comes a prudent and savvy sailor who, even though he may arrive late, arrives safe. " My hat's off to you, sir! CN "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:GojTd.4301$TB.3888@edtnps84... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. I purchased my Nordica 30 after lenghty reasearch, many inspections and countless hours of negotiation. After looking at 6 other Nordica 30s for sale... I fell in love with this particular boat and would have no other. I purchased the largest boat I could afford and single hand. Overproof is lovingly cared for and treated like a family member. It is a well known vessel and is always welcomed to any raft-ups. My neprhews and nieces have cut their sailing teeth and learned their navigational skills aboard. They still tell the tales of Overproof in Yellowknife. My engagements with the local law enforement and regulatory agencies are legend on the lake. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. I would no sooner entertain selling my vessel than you would parting with Cut The Mustard! We know our vessels and their abilities as well as limitations and nuances. CM |
OzOne wrote in message Hey, I just wanted to know about 'that' bottle, not the case/ cases Just finished it..... cracked it 4 days ago. Always nice to start Thursday with a full bottle. Keep that blood thin...it'll help with the circulation to extremities. No Man.... keep the blood thick or dilute with alcohol to keep circulation going. CM |
On 24 Feb 2005 07:38:15 -0800, "Joe" wrote
this crap: Down here in Texas you snow clowns would blush bright red at the antics and fun we create sailing down here...not to mention your pearly lilly white skin would turn red as a tomato in 46 mins. What part of Texas? I'm going to Dallas soon, and I'd like to get in some sailing. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
WTF were we arguing about again... oh yeah, got it
Capt. Mooron wrote: The hell you say.... you're the one backing up... not me! I called you on it and you implied that you didn't mean what you said... but now you say you did? What I said was pretty clear to anybody with a 5th grade comprehension of English. I did not say that you can't hold a job. I said that you can hold a job in a location where there's no competition due to chronic labor shortage. See the difference? Steady up, I'm trying to help you, here. Make up your mind Doug... either you are calling me a drug addled braggart or you're not. I only know how you act on the internet. You act like a drug-addled braggart... in fact you brag about using drugs... should I assume that you're not one? Don't worry ... I won't slap you around too hard... I'm not worried at all. DSK |
I thank you for your kind words. CM "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Dear Capt. Mooron, It is a pleasure to be in the company of another besides Joe, who knows what he wants in a sailboat and goes out and gets it. I realize your present circumstances keep you from sailing to your heart's content and, even if I give you a ration of sh*t from time to time, I do so knowing you are secure in the knowledge that your boat is the best boat for you. Even I, Capt. Neal, would be proud to own and sail such a fine boat. As a matter of fact, I looked at a couple Nordica 30's several years ago with the intent of moving up to a sturdy, blue water vessel but then decided coastal cruising with an occasional blue water jaunt was more to my liking so I stuck with my tried and true vessel and made modifications so she was more blue water capable but still nimble and handy. Such is the compromise of sailing yachts. You are so unlike most so-called sailors, of whom Bobsprit is a good example, in that you didn't buy a boat to impress your friends. You bought it to satisfy yourself. A sailboat is an extension of one's self and no mistake. Your boat says, "Here comes a prudent and savvy sailor who, even though he may arrive late, arrives safe. " My hat's off to you, sir! CN "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:GojTd.4301$TB.3888@edtnps84... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Actually, a Nordica 30 is a fine, blue water vessel. It is such a waste to abuse one like Mooron does by living way up there in Canaduh where it sits, unused most of the year. I purchased my Nordica 30 after lenghty reasearch, many inspections and countless hours of negotiation. After looking at 6 other Nordica 30s for sale... I fell in love with this particular boat and would have no other. I purchased the largest boat I could afford and single hand. Overproof is lovingly cared for and treated like a family member. It is a well known vessel and is always welcomed to any raft-ups. My neprhews and nieces have cut their sailing teeth and learned their navigational skills aboard. They still tell the tales of Overproof in Yellowknife. My engagements with the local law enforement and regulatory agencies are legend on the lake. Hey, Mooron, why not sell it to somebody who appreciates fine blue water vessels and who would use it as intended instead of as a way to hold down a cradle ashore? You could always buy a Mac26X and keep it warm in the garage on a trailer - more your style. I would no sooner entertain selling my vessel than you would parting with Cut The Mustard! We know our vessels and their abilities as well as limitations and nuances. CM |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message Or, it could be that many of us are not drug-addled braggarts, and we can land & hold a job in a climate where there is actually competition rather than a tremendous labor shortage. Wooooooo.... drug addled braggarts now..... and can't hold a job..... My my my... it's Binary Bill a La Doug Trawler! Hehee! Doug's been a little testy since he came back from his sailing trip. Since this wasn't directed at you but you seem to be in need of attention.... I'll pencil you in. What about me? lol LP |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message Don't worry ... I won't slap you around too hard... just enough to let you understand you ain't above me on the peckin' order around here! Oh, OK. Backing down, eh? No Doug, I ain't..... you really do act like a simpleton on many occasions..... especially when you start to over-estimate your value! To save wear and tear on your palms? No Doug... I save the back of my hand for pussies and pretentious little smucks that step out of line. Is a woman considered a pussy? ;-) LP (wonders if Capt. Mooron abuses women...) |
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:rsQUd.16647$ds.6697@okepread07... "Capt. Mooron" wrote: No Doug... I save the back of my hand for pussies and pretentious little smucks that step out of line. Is a woman considered a pussy? ;-) I think Mooron is referring to Gaynzy types. Most enlightened men, such as Bertie the Bunyip, refer to women as '****s' or as 'Stupid ****s'. I hope this helps. CN |
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message Is a woman considered a pussy? ;-) No Darlin'.... a woman is a life support system for a pussy LP (wonders if Capt. Mooron abuses women...) I've been known to have placed more a few over my lap to administer a spanking... but only when they've been very naughty. CM |
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message What about me? lol Your calendar seems full.... CM |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote: "Lady Pilot" wrote: "Capt. Mooron" wrote: No Doug... I save the back of my hand for pussies and pretentious little smucks that step out of line. Is a woman considered a pussy? ;-) I think Mooron is referring to Gaynzy types. How would you know this? Most enlightened men, such as Bertie the Bunyip, refer to women as '****s' or as 'Stupid ****s'. I hope this helps. Not really, your just trying to confuse the idle chatter or chit-chat? So are you saying that verbal abuse is okay, but physical abuse isn't? Or perhaps the other way around? LP |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Lady Pilot" wrote in message Is a woman considered a pussy? ;-) No Darlin'.... a woman is a life support system for a pussy Kind of like Bobsprit? lol LP (wonders if Capt. Mooron abuses women...) I've been known to have placed more a few over my lap to administer a spanking... but only when they've been very naughty. But I thought you *liked* your women to be naughty!?!? LP |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Lady Pilot" wrote in message What about me? lol Your calendar seems full.... Turnabout is fair play, I would say. Maybe I could pencil you in if Canada ever thaws? ;-) LP |
Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"?
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:A_aVd.102$Ru.5@okepread06... "Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Lady Pilot" wrote in message What about me? lol Your calendar seems full.... Turnabout is fair play, I would say. Maybe I could pencil you in if Canada ever thaws? ;-) LP |
Woooooooo... I'm gettin' some popcorn!!
"katysails" wrote in message Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"? |
Shall I also do my rendition of "Let me entertain you"
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:U6lVd.34494$ab2.6646@edtnps89... Woooooooo... I'm gettin' some popcorn!! "katysails" wrote in message Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"? |
This is the full, uncut, leather rendition is it???
Wooooooo.... Bring It On! Kitty!!!! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Shall I also do my rendition of "Let me entertain you" "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:U6lVd.34494$ab2.6646@edtnps89... Woooooooo... I'm gettin' some popcorn!! "katysails" wrote in message Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"? |
Whip, chains, AND spurs...
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:e0vVd.25181$TB.1750@edtnps84... This is the full, uncut, leather rendition is it??? Wooooooo.... Bring It On! Kitty!!!! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Shall I also do my rendition of "Let me entertain you" "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:U6lVd.34494$ab2.6646@edtnps89... Woooooooo... I'm gettin' some popcorn!! "katysails" wrote in message Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"? |
Woooooo.... never heard anything that wild from LP!!
CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Whip, chains, AND spurs... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:e0vVd.25181$TB.1750@edtnps84... This is the full, uncut, leather rendition is it??? Wooooooo.... Bring It On! Kitty!!!! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Shall I also do my rendition of "Let me entertain you" "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:U6lVd.34494$ab2.6646@edtnps89... Woooooooo... I'm gettin' some popcorn!! "katysails" wrote in message Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"? |
She's not a pagan Catholic...
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:z2wVd.25213$TB.19860@edtnps84... Woooooo.... never heard anything that wild from LP!! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Whip, chains, AND spurs... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:e0vVd.25181$TB.1750@edtnps84... This is the full, uncut, leather rendition is it??? Wooooooo.... Bring It On! Kitty!!!! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... Shall I also do my rendition of "Let me entertain you" "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:U6lVd.34494$ab2.6646@edtnps89... Woooooooo... I'm gettin' some popcorn!! "katysails" wrote in message Instead of "Debby Does Dallas" we have "LP does the NG"? |
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