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Bart Senior February 23rd 05 02:13 AM

Rules of the Road #19
 
INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required



Capt. Neal® February 23rd 05 02:13 PM


"Bart Senior" wrote in message ...
INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required



D. is correct.

Joe February 23rd 05 02:31 PM

B

Joe


Donal February 23rd 05 11:17 PM


"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required


A.

However, C might also be in order.



Regards


Donal
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Jeff Morris February 24th 05 08:31 PM

Joe wrote:
B

Joe

Wrong again, though correct for US Inland waters.

Jeff Morris February 24th 05 08:33 PM

Donal wrote:
"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...

INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required



A.

However, C might also be in order.


If one vessel did A, the other should do C. However, D is the correct
answer.

Donal February 24th 05 11:57 PM


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:
"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...

INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required



A.

However, C might also be in order.


If one vessel did A, the other should do C. However, D is the correct
answer.


Shouldn't "meeting" vessels try to pass port to port?

Have I misunderstood something?



Regards


Donal
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Bart Senior February 25th 05 12:28 AM

1 lash for Joe.


Joe wrote:
B




Jeff Morris February 25th 05 12:29 AM

Donal wrote:
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Donal wrote:

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...


INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required


A.

However, C might also be in order.


If one vessel did A, the other should do C. However, D is the correct
answer.



Shouldn't "meeting" vessels try to pass port to port?

Have I misunderstood something?


Yes, you have. Rule 14 (head-on situation) applies only if there is a
risk of collision. And Rule 9 (narrow channels) says you should stay
to the right side of a channel. But if two vessels in open water are
on courses that have them passing comfortably starboard to starboard,
there is no reason for then to alter course to force it to be a port
to port passing. In fact, it could be rather dangerous. Since no
course alteration is needed, no signal is required.

The US Inland rules are worded quite differently on this point.
Instead of implying "I am altering course ..." they mean "I intend to
leave you on my port (or starboard) side." Under the international
rule no reply is needed, but it is required under the inland rules

Bart Senior February 25th 05 12:29 AM

1 point for Jeff. Maybe I should give you two points
since your boat has two points.

Hmm, does that mean Joe is pointless?

"Jeff Morris" wrote in

Donal wrote:
"Bart Senior" wrote

INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required



A.

However, C might also be in order.


If one vessel did A, the other should do C. However, D is the correct
answer.




otnmbrd February 25th 05 04:22 AM

Donal wrote:
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Donal wrote:

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...


INTERNATIONAL

What whistle signal, if any, would be sounded
when two vessels are meeting, but will pass
clear starboard to starboard?

A. One short blast
B. Two short blasts
C. Five or more short blasts
D. No signal is required


A.

However, C might also be in order.


If one vessel did A, the other should do C. However, D is the correct
answer.



Shouldn't "meeting" vessels try to pass port to port?

Have I misunderstood something?



Regards


Donal


Yup. If you're all ready passing clear why bother to make all sorts of
course changes to pass "Port to Port"?

Joe February 25th 05 06:32 PM

Yelp. I was thinking in the ditch.

Joe


Donal February 25th 05 11:11 PM


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
nk.net...
Donal wrote:
Shouldn't "meeting" vessels try to pass port to port?

Have I misunderstood something?

Yup. If you're all ready passing clear why bother to make all sorts of
course changes to pass "Port to Port"?


OK. That makes sense.

What the hell did Bart mean by "meeting" in the original question?

Is there a definition of "meeting" in the ColRegs that I am unaware of?


Regards


Donal
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Donal February 25th 05 11:11 PM


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Have I misunderstood something?


Yes, you have. Rule 14 (head-on situation) applies only if there is a
risk of collision. And Rule 9 (narrow channels) says you should stay
to the right side of a channel. But if two vessels in open water are
on courses that have them passing comfortably starboard to starboard,
there is no reason for then to alter course to force it to be a port
to port passing. In fact, it could be rather dangerous. Since no
course alteration is needed, no signal is required.


See my reply to Otn.



Regards


Donal
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otnmbrd February 26th 05 12:03 AM

Donal wrote:
"otnmbrd" wrote in message
nk.net...

Donal wrote:

Shouldn't "meeting" vessels try to pass port to port?

Have I misunderstood something?


Yup. If you're all ready passing clear why bother to make all sorts of
course changes to pass "Port to Port"?



OK. That makes sense.

What the hell did Bart mean by "meeting" in the original question?

Is there a definition of "meeting" in the ColRegs that I am unaware of?


Regards


Donal


Without looking it up, I'd say "no".
However, if you are looking ahead and you see a vessel on the opposite
course that is going to pass clear (port or stbd) it would still be
considered a "meeting" situation for Rules test, just not one you would
be required to act on, other than maintaining course.

otn


Donal February 27th 05 12:30 AM


"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...
Donal wrote:
What the hell did Bart mean by "meeting" in the original question?

Is there a definition of "meeting" in the ColRegs that I am unaware of?


Without looking it up, I'd say "no".
However, if you are looking ahead and you see a vessel on the opposite
course that is going to pass clear (port or stbd) it would still be
considered a "meeting" situation for Rules test, just not one you would
be required to act on, other than maintaining course.


Hmmmmmmm!


Regards


Donal
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