Right you are. We did not get any pictures of the rough day. LP was hanging
on too carefully and it was to the point where I was being overpowered in
the gusts where I had to luff up from time to time till the gusts passed.

There were plenty of white horses all over. The pics shown depict the
conditions where the wind was from 10-20 knots.

There were still some left-over seas of 4-5 feet in the Gulf Stream but they
were big rollers and not steep. In the four pics from the movie in the Gulf
Stream there is a four-footer rolling by. Cameras tend to minimize the size
of waves because they get them from above.

CN


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

Thanks for the pics!! Nice! Looks like you had a nice sail.

Crappy, I didn't see a single "White Cap" or a reefed Sail. I was
expecting to see winds in the thirties. All the pictures you showed are
"Gentle Breeze" conditions. Nothing wrong with that but you were talking
about 3 to 4 foot waves and winds in the thirties. Looks like everything
was under 12 knots. GREAT for sailing.

Thanks again,
Ole Thom

IF this trip really took place, and IF 'LP' was onboard taking the
pics, I would assume that in the rougher conditions the camera was the
last thing on her mind.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Neal,

Thanks for the pics!! Nice! Looks like you had a nice sail.

Crappy, I didn't see a single "White Cap" or a reefed Sail. I was
expecting to see winds in the thirties. All the pictures you showed
are
"Gentle Breeze" conditions. Nothing wrong with that but you were
talking
about 3 to 4 foot waves and winds in the thirties. Looks like
everything
was under 12 knots. GREAT for sailing.

Thanks again,
Ole Thom

You mean that you believe that Cappy had her...... "manning the rudder"??

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
IF this trip really took place, and IF 'LP' was onboard taking the
pics, I would assume that in the rougher conditions the camera was the
last thing on her mind.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Neal,

Thanks for the pics!! Nice! Looks like you had a nice sail.

Crappy, I didn't see a single "White Cap" or a reefed Sail. I was
expecting to see winds in the thirties. All the pictures you showed
are
"Gentle Breeze" conditions. Nothing wrong with that but you were
talking
about 3 to 4 foot waves and winds in the thirties. Looks like
everything
was under 12 knots. GREAT for sailing.

Thanks again,
Ole Thom

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Right you are. We did not get any pictures of the rough day. LP was
hanging
on too carefully and it was to the point where I was being overpowered in
the gusts where I had to luff up from time to time till the gusts passed.

Did you use the tried & true "here sit on my lap and I'll teach you how to
steer" ploy??
I love when you get to the "hold on tight now" part...... as you sheet in
the main!
Don't the clothes just fly off'em after you turn downwind??

Oh that's right..... your little boat dosen't like it downwind. That's
typical of fin keelers!

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hb5Sd.5356$9a3.4639@edtnps91...
Oh that's right..... your little boat dosen't like it downwind. That's
typical of fin keelers!

CM



My yacht will go downwind faster than your heavy Colin Archer-type slug.

Fin keelers can surf while those old-fashioned (i.e. obsolete) boats like
yours just wallow in the trough like the garbage scows they were designed
after.

CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:T45Sd.5355$9a3.2245@edtnps91...
You mean that you believe that Cappy had her...... "manning the
rudder"??

CM


Nah, not after she snickered at the size of his tiller.

SV

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:hb5Sd.5356$9a3.4639@edtnps91...
Oh that's right..... your little boat dosen't like it downwind. That's
typical of fin keelers!

CM



My yacht will go downwind faster than your heavy Colin Archer-type slug.

Fin keelers can surf while those old-fashioned (i.e. obsolete) boats like
yours just wallow in the trough like the garbage scows they were designed
after.

You are totally delusional....... my boat would kick your boat's butt on
any point of sail..... downwind it would be akin to engaging a hyper-drive.
Let's face it... you believe that 30kts is high winds!! I don't break out
the bar napkins and coasters till it tops 40kts.

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:T45Sd.5355$9a3.2245@edtnps91...
You mean that you believe that Cappy had her...... "manning the
rudder"??

CM


Nah, not after she snickered at the size of his tiller.

Well he does have a Small Boat doesn't he?!...... now you'll see him
whine about "it's not the size , it's how you use it!"! Gawd.... that gets
old quick!

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:CE5Sd.5369$9a3.115@edtnps91...
You are totally delusional....... my boat would kick your boat's butt on
any point of sail..... downwind it would be akin to engaging a hyper-drive.
Let's face it... you believe that 30kts is high winds!! I don't break out
the bar napkins and coasters till it tops 40kts.


It is plain to see that you don't realize a heavier displacement hull makes
a bigger bow wave. Such big bow waves trap the hull in a deep trough.

Your vessel is heavy and has an old, deep keel design all of which work to
create a large wave train. So much energy goes into making these waves
that there is little left to move your vessel forward.

My fin-keeler is faster on every point of sail than an equivalent full-keeler
but it is markedly faster downwind because it can surf with control.

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Your vessel is heavy and has an old, deep keel design all of which work to
create a large wave train. So much energy goes into making these waves
that there is little left to move your vessel forward.

My vessel pays no heed to 4 foot seas.... and if you were half the sailor
you claim ... you'd know enough to work over the sea... instaed of having it
work you over.


My fin-keeler is faster on every point of sail than an equivalent
full-keeler
but it is markedly faster downwind because it can surf with control.

Your boat wouldn't surf with a 200hp Merc pushing it... let alone sails. My
boat on the other hand tracks like a train on rails downwind...... way
faster than that finicky fin keeled coastal cruiser of yours!

CM