pivot turn in a narrow area
 

Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

It should be doable... use the backfill technique if you have an outboard.

If you have an inboard, you can still do it, but it'll require more
shuttling back and forth.

I'd suggest practicing it say between mooring balls before trying it at the
dock. Make sure you're fenders are out, have plenty of hands on deck to help
the first couple of times, and don't get going more than enough to maintain
headway. Remember which way the boat turns better, both forward and reverse
(prop walk), and use this to your advantage.

Of course, backing up 90 feet shouldn't be a big deal either.. that's just 3
boat lengths, and you'll get a lot of practical experience with prop walk,
which will help you when you finally get sick of backing up. g

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"coldcorona" wrote in message
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Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

Assuming an inboard with a right hand prop, you could accomplish this in a
number of ways.
1.With help from a "fwd, after spring" and some creative line handling.
2.By "springing" out then backing off and doing a pivot turn (made harder by
the fact you will be bringing the bow through the wind).
3. Just back her up the 90 feet into the wind ( most boats like to back into
the wind which simplifies control when backing into it.)

otn


"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

backing up.........i don't think you want to back up if the gaynz one is
around.
gf.

Inboard, outboard? Wheel, tiller? Singlehanded, crew? Is the wind
*ALWAYS* from the same direction? Floating docks?

Practice backing out in the open. Learn to use your prop walk. Watch
other boats and see what they do.

SV



"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side
is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when
leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

On 14 Feb 2005 21:25:49 -0800, "coldcorona"
wrote this crap:

Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?


If you have an outboard, it's easy. Just turn the motor and the whole
boat will pivot.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I don't know Scotty..... this "coldcorona"..... smells fishy to me. :-)

Sailboats belong on a mooring!!

Anyway... anybody who rents a slip in an area they can't access easily is
just plain stupid.

I can turn my Crab Crusher on a dime and it hates to back up.... fin keelers
would have no problem in that situation

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Inboard, outboard? Wheel, tiller? Singlehanded, crew? Is the wind
*ALWAYS* from the same direction? Floating docks?

Practice backing out in the open. Learn to use your prop walk. Watch
other boats and see what they do.

SV



"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side
is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when
leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

We had to do that twice this past year at the yacht club when the winds
wouldn't allow us to back out the fairway (we were on the dock perpendicular
to the slips...) we're 31 actual feet ...rigged the line from the away side
of the bow to the stern and around a post so Mr sails could keep the bow in
place from his position at the wheel and kept the away stern tie on with a
bit of slackI manned the bow with dock pole to fend off pilings and
sterns...we are deep keel fin and the boat will pivot very nicely on
it...was nerve-wracking the first time but managed not to mutilate or dent
anything...the second time went much better...

"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

Why don't you tell us again about your "relationship" with your daughter?
Apparently, it isn't the normal kind of parent/daughter one.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
backing up.........i don't think you want to back up if the gaynz one is
around.
gf.

Group,

A question: Doesn't any one use a BOATHOOK in a slip?

It is a very handy thing in a tight situations, it can hold the stern
against prop walk.

With a crew, it is a simple matter to enter and leave a slip using
Neutral as the gear of choice. Simply walk the boat away from the slip,
push the bow into the desired direction and power away,