OK Crappy,

Guess I'll have to ask you for YOUR explanation of proper look-out by
sight and hearing at all times?

Ole Thom

My definition does not matter as the definition of a proper lookout is
defined by Rule 5, itself.

Why can't people understand plain English anymore?

Here's your lesson for today. Study it hard and
please forego the spirits.

Rule 5
Look-out
"Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper
look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well
as by all available means appropriate in the
prevailing circumstances and conditions so
as to make a full appraisal of the situation
and of the risk of collision."

Be so kind as to allow me to re-state it so even
someone who likes pilothouses might understand.

"A proper look-out is defined by every vessel
at all times maintaining a look-out by sight as
well as by hearing as well as by all available
means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances
and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision."

I hope this helps.

CN




"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
OK Crappy,

Guess I'll have to ask you for YOUR explanation of proper look-out by
sight and hearing at all times?

Ole Thom

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
"A proper look-out is defined by every vessel
at all times maintaining a look-out by sight as
well as by hearing as well as by all available
means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances
and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision."

So what if you are sailing on a lake and nobody else is on the lake....
would you have to keep a "proper look-out?.... and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Capt. Neal=AE" wrote in message
"A proper look-out is defined by every vessel
at all times maintaining a look-out by sight as
well as by hearing as well as by all available
means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances
and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision."

So what if you are sailing on a lake and nobody else is on the
lake....
would you have to keep a "proper look-out?
Let me answer Mooron.

Yes I would


..=2E.. and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.
=20

Joe

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
"A proper look-out is defined by every vessel
at all times maintaining a look-out by sight as
well as by hearing as well as by all available
means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances
and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision."

So what if you are sailing on a lake and nobody else is on the
lake....
would you have to keep a "proper look-out?
Let me answer Mooron.

Yes I would


..... and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.


Well since there is only one vessel on the lake in this scenario.... would
you be updating that apprasial on a constant basis? Would you be maintaining
a proper look-out at all times?

CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Capt. Neal=AE" wrote in message
"A proper look-out is defined by every vessel
at all times maintaining a look-out by sight as
well as by hearing as well as by all available
means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances
and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision."

So what if you are sailing on a lake and nobody else is on the
lake....
would you have to keep a "proper look-out?
Let me answer Mooron.

Yes I would


.... and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.


Well since there is only one vessel on the lake in this scenario....
would
you be updating that apprasial on a constant basis?

Would that be needed to makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision?

If so I would, If not....then no.

Joe



Would you be maintaining=20
a proper look-out at all times?
=20
CM

Joe wrote:

.... and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.

Exactly. If we condense Rule 5 by removing the specifics of what sort of
look-out is to be kept, its true meaning can be discerned...

Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out ... so as
to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.

IOW, a proper look-out is defined as that which allows the sailor to
ascertain "a full appraisal appraisal of the situation and of the risk of
collision". It is that look-out which is sufficient to acheive this. It is
not, as Captain Crow Pie falsely claims, maintaining a constant vigil by
constantly spinning in one's cockpit in a perpetual scan of the horizon, or
perhaps by growing eyes in the back of one's head in the hope of attaining
360-degree vision. One can only assume that the aforementioned captain does
not blink...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Stupid thing to say, Wally. What if a submarine surfaces right in front
of you ten seconds after you have scanned the horizon and thought
all was well so you went below to take a ten-minute nap?

Like our resident wannabe barrister, Jeffypoo, loves to say
'Assumptions shall not be made on the basis of scanty information . . ."

CN


"Wally" wrote in message . uk...
Joe wrote:

.... and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.

Exactly. If we condense Rule 5 by removing the specifics of what sort of
look-out is to be kept, its true meaning can be discerned...

Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out ... so as
to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.

IOW, a proper look-out is defined as that which allows the sailor to
ascertain "a full appraisal appraisal of the situation and of the risk of
collision". It is that look-out which is sufficient to acheive this. It is
not, as Captain Crow Pie falsely claims, maintaining a constant vigil by
constantly spinning in one's cockpit in a perpetual scan of the horizon, or
perhaps by growing eyes in the back of one's head in the hope of attaining
360-degree vision. One can only assume that the aforementioned captain does
not blink...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Stupid thing to say, Wally. What if a submarine surfaces right in
front of you ten seconds after you have scanned the horizon and
thought all was well so you went below to take a ten-minute nap?

How the hell do you keep a watch for submarines?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Your logic and reasoning leaves a lot to be desired, but . . .

I'll say one good thing about you, Wally. You know the right
color to paint a sloop.

Did you have Ole Thom design those end plates on the keel?

CN

"Wally" wrote in message . uk...
Joe wrote:

.... and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.

Exactly. If we condense Rule 5 by removing the specifics of what sort of
look-out is to be kept, its true meaning can be discerned...

Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out ... so as
to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.

IOW, a proper look-out is defined as that which allows the sailor to
ascertain "a full appraisal appraisal of the situation and of the risk of
collision". It is that look-out which is sufficient to acheive this. It is
not, as Captain Crow Pie falsely claims, maintaining a constant vigil by
constantly spinning in one's cockpit in a perpetual scan of the horizon, or
perhaps by growing eyes in the back of one's head in the hope of attaining
360-degree vision. One can only assume that the aforementioned captain does
not blink...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk