Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Capt. Neal=AE" wrote in message
"A proper look-out is defined by every vessel
at all times maintaining a look-out by sight as
well as by hearing as well as by all available
means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances
and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision."

So what if you are sailing on a lake and nobody else is on the
lake....
would you have to keep a "proper look-out?
Let me answer Mooron.

Yes I would


..=2E.. and what would a "proper
look-out" be in those conditions?

One that makes a full appraisal of
the situation and of the risk of collision.
=20

Joe

CM

OK Crappy,

Questions that come to mind; that need answering. How much visual
impairment is allowed. How much Hearing impairement. Right now I can
hear better than you with my aids turned up and without them a lot
worst. Is there a cut-off?

How about "Cedar Bucket Time" is that in violation?

Does a Proper Watch have to be human watch on deck or is
Instrument/Electronic acceptable? Does the human monitor need to be on
deck? Can they be on the "Cedar Bucket"? Can the human be in the galley
making a meal or coffee while monitoring instruments below? Is that
breaking the law?

Please answer these question because there are more to follow; depending
on the answers for the correct answers to the above. I would love to get
the straight knowledge of these rules by an expert.

Ole Thom

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
OK Crappy,

Questions that come to mind; that need answering. How much visual
impairment is allowed. How much Hearing impairement. Right now I can
hear better than you with my aids turned up and without them a lot
worst. Is there a cut-off?

How about "Cedar Bucket Time" is that in violation?

Does a Proper Watch have to be human watch on deck or is
Instrument/Electronic acceptable? Does the human monitor need to be on
deck? Can they be on the "Cedar Bucket"? Can the human be in the galley
making a meal or coffee while monitoring instruments below? Is that
breaking the law?

Please answer these question because there are more to follow; depending
on the answers for the correct answers to the above. I would love to get
the straight knowledge of these rules by an expert.

Well Thom, it looks as if Neal has declined to answer your questions.

Neal is jealous of Ellen's prowess at single handed seamanship because he is
still struggling to master single handed semenship!



Regards


Donal
--

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Of course I am correct with respect to Rule 5 and little Ellen
being in violation of it for a period of time exceeding three
months.

Neal,

Are you saying that you have never sailed more than 16 hours single handed?

I'm truly dissappointed. I was under the impression that you were an
accomplished single handed sailor.

If you're not an experienced single-handed sailor, then what are you?




Regards


Donal
--

That's exactly what he's saying...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Of course I am correct with respect to Rule 5 and little Ellen
being in violation of it for a period of time exceeding three
months.

Neal,

Are you saying that you have never sailed more than 16 minutes single
handed?

I'm truly dissappointed. I was under the impression that you were an
accomplished single handed sailor.

If you're not an experienced single-handed sailor, then what are you?




Regards


Donal
--

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
The few here who execute it with any grace are Captain Neal,
Simple Simon and to a lesser degree, Joe.

I thought that you were serious until you mentioned Joe!

Joe is not a real sailor ..... he races around at 35Kts in FOG

Regards



Donal
--

Donal wrote:
"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
The few here who execute it with any grace are Captain Neal,
Simple Simon and to a lesser degree, Joe.

I thought that you were serious until you mentioned Joe!

Joe is not a real sailor ..... he races around at 35Kts in FOG

While racing around at 25kt not 35kts in fog I was a captain, not a
sailor.

Joe





Regards



Donal
--

I'd take 1000000 Ellen's over one Neal any day...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Congratulations to Ellen for setting a new World Record. This person
bettered the previous record by a margin of about 2%, a true
accomplishment
by almost any measure.

To the thinking person, this accomplishment raises several issues. First
is
the issue of sportmanship. Athletes are routinely penalized for
unsportmanslike conduct and can suffer lifetime disbarment for other
actions. Take Pete Rose for example, just for betting. Ellen has put
herself
and others at risk, potentially violated international law and treaties -
where are the sanctions?

Secondly is the potential issue of fraud. If a woman took first place in
men's weightlifting in the Olympics, or outran the men in the 100 meter
dash
you can bet she'd have a cotton swab jammed in her mouth a for chromosome
testing. If Ellen's feat is so grand and so remarkable even for a man, let
alone a woman, any credible sports sanctioning institute would be testing
away.

Thirdly is the regard of sailing as a sport. The heavy reliance on
equipment, sponsorship (she was sailing a billboard if you failed to
notice)
and possibly use of stimulants overweighs physical performance. This
simply
says sailing is not a true sport. As the good Captain has maintained
sailing
for most of you is an escape. Ellens escapade falls into the realm of
entertainment and is a commercial enterprise. Proper sailing is a
lifestyle,
not an event. The few here who execute it with any grace are Captain Neal,
Simple Simon and to a lesser degree, Joe.

To prove this to yourselves, beyond a trace of doubt, ask yourself this
question:

"Would the oceans of the world be a better place to sail if it had 1000
Captains Neals on it or 1000 Ellens on it?"

In your heart you know he's right!

Gilligan

I noticed that by day 47 Ellen had developed a beehive.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I'd take 1000000 Ellen's over one Neal any day...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Congratulations to Ellen for setting a new World Record. This person
bettered the previous record by a margin of about 2%, a true
accomplishment
by almost any measure.

To the thinking person, this accomplishment raises several issues. First
is
the issue of sportmanship. Athletes are routinely penalized for
unsportmanslike conduct and can suffer lifetime disbarment for other
actions. Take Pete Rose for example, just for betting. Ellen has put
herself
and others at risk, potentially violated international law and
treaties -
where are the sanctions?

Secondly is the potential issue of fraud. If a woman took first place in
men's weightlifting in the Olympics, or outran the men in the 100 meter
dash
you can bet she'd have a cotton swab jammed in her mouth a for
chromosome
testing. If Ellen's feat is so grand and so remarkable even for a man,
let
alone a woman, any credible sports sanctioning institute would be
testing
away.

Thirdly is the regard of sailing as a sport. The heavy reliance on
equipment, sponsorship (she was sailing a billboard if you failed to
notice)
and possibly use of stimulants overweighs physical performance. This
simply
says sailing is not a true sport. As the good Captain has maintained
sailing
for most of you is an escape. Ellens escapade falls into the realm of
entertainment and is a commercial enterprise. Proper sailing is a
lifestyle,
not an event. The few here who execute it with any grace are Captain
Neal,
Simple Simon and to a lesser degree, Joe.

To prove this to yourselves, beyond a trace of doubt, ask yourself this
question:

"Would the oceans of the world be a better place to sail if it had 1000
Captains Neals on it or 1000 Ellens on it?"

In your heart you know he's right!

Gilligan

She doesn't ahve enough hair to have a beehive...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
nk.net...
I noticed that by day 47 Ellen had developed a beehive.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I'd take 1000000 Ellen's over one Neal any day...

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Congratulations to Ellen for setting a new World Record. This person
bettered the previous record by a margin of about 2%, a true
accomplishment
by almost any measure.

To the thinking person, this accomplishment raises several issues.
First
is
the issue of sportmanship. Athletes are routinely penalized for
unsportmanslike conduct and can suffer lifetime disbarment for other
actions. Take Pete Rose for example, just for betting. Ellen has put
herself
and others at risk, potentially violated international law and
treaties -
where are the sanctions?

Secondly is the potential issue of fraud. If a woman took first place
in
men's weightlifting in the Olympics, or outran the men in the 100 meter
dash
you can bet she'd have a cotton swab jammed in her mouth a for
chromosome
testing. If Ellen's feat is so grand and so remarkable even for a man,
let
alone a woman, any credible sports sanctioning institute would be
testing
away.

Thirdly is the regard of sailing as a sport. The heavy reliance on
equipment, sponsorship (she was sailing a billboard if you failed to
notice)
and possibly use of stimulants overweighs physical performance. This
simply
says sailing is not a true sport. As the good Captain has maintained
sailing
for most of you is an escape. Ellens escapade falls into the realm of
entertainment and is a commercial enterprise. Proper sailing is a
lifestyle,
not an event. The few here who execute it with any grace are Captain
Neal,
Simple Simon and to a lesser degree, Joe.

To prove this to yourselves, beyond a trace of doubt, ask yourself this
question:

"Would the oceans of the world be a better place to sail if it had 1000
Captains Neals on it or 1000 Ellens on it?"

In your heart you know he's right!

Gilligan