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Wally February 7th 05 10:42 PM

The official time
 
71 hours, 14 hours, 18 mins, 33 seconds


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Wally February 7th 05 10:43 PM

Wally wrote:
71 hours, 14 hours, 18 mins, 33 seconds


71 days!


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DSK February 8th 05 12:35 AM

Wally wrote:
71 hours, 14 hours, 18 mins, 33 seconds


Well congratulations to her. Setting that record is quite a feat. Just
getting to the point of starting out with a boat & gear capable of
attempting the record is an accomplishment, getting the boat around the
world without major mishap takes great skill & a tremendous amount of
work... and she gets the reward of setting the record. She deserves the
accolade!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Neal® February 8th 05 12:59 AM

The official crime:

MacArthur's journey began Nov. 28.
Since then, she has slept an average
of 30 minutes at a time and four hours
in any day.

In other words she did not comply with
the COLREGS where it states the following:

Rule 5
Look-out
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper
look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well
as by all available means appropriate in the
prevailing circumstances and conditions so as
to make a full appraisal of the situation and
of the risk of collision.


She should be arrested!

CN




"Wally" wrote in message k...
71 hours, 14 hours, 18 mins, 33 seconds


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Remco Moedt February 8th 05 12:35 PM

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:59:05 -0500, =?Windows-1252?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?=
wrote:

The official crime:

MacArthur's journey began Nov. 28.
Since then, she has slept an average
of 30 minutes at a time and four hours
in any day.

In other words she did not comply with
the COLREGS where it states the following:

Rule 5
Look-out
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper
look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well
as by all available means appropriate in the
prevailing circumstances and conditions so as
to make a full appraisal of the situation and
of the risk of collision.


She should be arrested!


AFAIK the COLREGS only apply to American waters (correct me when I'm
wrong, but somehow I've a feeling I don't need to ask this g)

Cheers!

Remco


Jeff Morris February 8th 05 12:53 PM

Sorry, they are international rules. The US has a slightly modified
version for inland waters. From the introduction to the US edition:

INTRODUCTION
International Rules
The International Rules in this book were formalized in the
Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions
at Sea, 1972, and became effective on July 15, 1977. The Rules
(commonly called 72 COLREGS) are part of the Convention, and
vessels flying the flags of states ratifying the treaty are bound to the
Rules. The United States has ratified this treaty and all United States
flag vessels must adhere to these Rules where applicable. President
Gerald R. Ford proclaimed 72 COLREGS and the Congress adopted
them as the International Navigational Rules Act of 1977.
The 72 COLREGS were developed by the Inter-Governmental
Maritime Consultative Organization (IMCO) which in May 1982 was
renamed the International Maritime Organization (IMO). In November
1981, IMO’s Assembly adopted 55 amendments to the 72 COLREGS
which became effective on June 1, 1983. The IMO also adopted 9
more amendments which became effective on November 19, 1989.
The International Rules in this book contain these amendments.
These Rules are applicable on waters outside of established navigational
lines of demarcation. The lines are called COLREGS
Demarcation Lines and delineate those waters upon which mariners
shall comply with the Inland and International Rules. COLREGS
Demarcation Lines are contained in this book.


And single handers have been held liable when their lack of a lookout is
the cause of a collision.
Here's the court ruling from such a case:
http://207.41.17.117/ISYSquery/IRLF610.tmp/1/doc



Remco Moedt wrote:
On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:59:05 -0500, =?Windows-1252?Q?Capt._Neal=AE?=
wrote:


The official crime:

MacArthur's journey began Nov. 28.
Since then, she has slept an average
of 30 minutes at a time and four hours
in any day.

In other words she did not comply with
the COLREGS where it states the following:

Rule 5
Look-out
Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper
look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well
as by all available means appropriate in the
prevailing circumstances and conditions so as
to make a full appraisal of the situation and
of the risk of collision.


She should be arrested!



AFAIK the COLREGS only apply to American waters (correct me when I'm
wrong, but somehow I've a feeling I don't need to ask this g)

Cheers!

Remco


Remco Moedt February 8th 05 01:37 PM

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:53:25 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote:

Sorry, they are international rules. The US has a slightly modified
version for inland waters. From the introduction to the US edition:


Ah, ok, thanks. So, the American offshore rules are the same as
COLREGS?

Cheers!

Remco


Snip


Capt. Mooron February 8th 05 01:45 PM


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message

Ah, ok, thanks. So, the American offshore rules are the same as
COLREGS?


Here Remco... this site should clarify a few things for you.

http://tinylink.com/?HCzbtVNb1O

CM



Jeff Morris February 8th 05 01:52 PM

Remco Moedt wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:53:25 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote:


Sorry, they are international rules. The US has a slightly modified
version for inland waters. From the introduction to the US edition:



Ah, ok, thanks. So, the American offshore rules are the same as
COLREGS?


Yes, the Colregs apply everywhere (for the countries that signed up,
which is just about all of them). They are allowed minor variations in
coastal waters, which some countries, such as the US and Canada, have
implemented. The significant differences concern towing barges on
rivers. The only major difference in the US Inland Rules that affect
boats is that the rules concerning "constrained by draft" have been
eliminated in the US version.

Remco Moedt February 9th 05 09:49 AM




On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:45:10 GMT, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Heya CM,



"Remco Moedt" wrote in message

Ah, ok, thanks. So, the American offshore rules are the same as
COLREGS?


Here Remco... this site should clarify a few things for you.

http://tinylink.com/?HCzbtVNb1O


Thanks for the link. However, it's not the rules, it's the origin of
the rules I wonder about.

Cheers!

Remco


Remco Moedt February 9th 05 09:58 AM

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:52:45 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote:

Remco Moedt wrote:
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:53:25 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote:


Sorry, they are international rules. The US has a slightly modified
version for inland waters. From the introduction to the US edition:



Ah, ok, thanks. So, the American offshore rules are the same as
COLREGS?


Yes, the Colregs apply everywhere (for the countries that signed up,
which is just about all of them). They are allowed minor variations in
coastal waters, which some countries, such as the US and Canada, have
implemented. The significant differences concern towing barges on
rivers. The only major difference in the US Inland Rules that affect
boats is that the rules concerning "constrained by draft" have been
eliminated in the US version.


Thanks Jeff, that does clarify the matter for me. Apparently the Dutch
rules, in short named BVA, are actually the COLREGS. Strange thing is
that I never saw it mentioned when BVA was discussed.

Since the Dutch always talk about BVA, and you guys/gals here always
refer to the COLREGS, I assumed the COLREGS was an American thing.

Cheers!


Remco







Donal February 10th 05 11:42 PM


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...

AFAIK the COLREGS only apply to American waters (correct me when I'm
wrong, but somehow I've a feeling I don't need to ask this g)


Oh dear!! We've got another one who didn't study geography at school.

The International Collregs are not related to the "World Series".

Believe it or not, the international regulations actually apply to waters
that are not officially under US jurisdiction. Please don't tell GWB about
this.

Regards


Donal
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Remco Moedt February 11th 05 12:52 AM

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:42:00 -0000, "Donal"
wrote:


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...

AFAIK the COLREGS only apply to American waters (correct me when I'm
wrong, but somehow I've a feeling I don't need to ask this g)


Oh dear!! We've got another one who didn't study geography at school.


I don't see what geography has to do with it.

The International Collregs are not related to the "World Series".


Hehe

Believe it or not, the international regulations actually apply to waters
that are not officially under US jurisdiction.


I do understand that now. My problem was that I didn't understand if
the COLREGS was the American variant of the international rules (like
BVA (Bepalingen ter voorkoming van aanvaring op zee) in the
Netherlands), or the international rules itself. Jeff cleared that up
for me.

Please don't tell GWB about this.


Of course not!


Cheers!

Remco


Jeff Morris February 11th 05 02:46 AM

Remco Moedt wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:42:00 -0000, "Donal"
wrote:


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...

AFAIK the COLREGS only apply to American waters (correct me when I'm
wrong, but somehow I've a feeling I don't need to ask this g)


Oh dear!! We've got another one who didn't study geography at school.



I don't see what geography has to do with it.


The International Collregs are not related to the "World Series".



Hehe


Believe it or not, the international regulations actually apply to waters
that are not officially under US jurisdiction.



I do understand that now. My problem was that I didn't understand if
the COLREGS was the American variant of the international rules (like
BVA (Bepalingen ter voorkoming van aanvaring op zee) in the
Netherlands), or the international rules itself. Jeff cleared that up
for me.


Actually, the "ColRegs" are the International rules - that's how the IMO
(International Maritime Organization) refers to them, though some
countries have different names. The local rules in the US are called
the "Inland Rules." The two set of rules are 95% the same.

Maxprop February 11th 05 04:56 AM


"Donal" wrote in message news:cugrcr$58e$1

Believe it or not, the international regulations actually apply to waters
that are not officially under US jurisdiction. Please don't tell GWB
about
this.


All waters are under US jurisdiction. One never knows where a boomer is
lurking at any particular time, does one. g

Max



Donal February 12th 05 01:18 AM


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:42:00 -0000, "Donal"
wrote:


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...

AFAIK the COLREGS only apply to American waters (correct me when I'm
wrong, but somehow I've a feeling I don't need to ask this g)


Oh dear!! We've got another one who didn't study geography at school.


I don't see what geography has to do with it.


My apologies!!

I incorrectly assumed that only an American would think that the COLREGS
(International Regulations for the Prevention of Collisions at Sea) only
applied to American waters.


Regards


Donal
--




Thom Stewart February 12th 05 03:36 PM

Neal,

If she committed a crime and you're a certified captain, Why haven't you
pressed charges against her? Talk is cheap. Can you prove what you're
saying? If she truly was illegal, press charges

Ole Thom


Maxprop February 13th 05 05:29 PM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

Neal,

If she committed a crime and you're a certified captain, Why haven't you
pressed charges against her? Talk is cheap. Can you prove what you're
saying? If she truly was illegal, press charges


Heh, heh . . . . you've made a couple of assumptions here, Thom. First,
that the "Captain" is indeed a captain, and second, that any court in any
land would uphold such charges without making him who brought such charges a
laughing stock.

Max



Thom Stewart February 13th 05 06:29 PM

True Max,

An awful lot of interpretation of Colregs is a laughable situation.

OT


Maxprop February 14th 05 04:42 AM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

True Max,

An awful lot of interpretation of Colregs is a laughable situation.


If they were strictly enforced, no single-handed circumnavigation would be
permitted.

Max



Scott Vernon February 14th 05 12:09 PM


"Maxprop" wrote

If they were strictly enforced, no single-handed circumnavigation

would be
permitted.


That's right, and if DOT regs were followed everything would be
delivered a day late.

And if immigration laws were followed, the price of lettuce would
quadruple.

If prostitution wasn't allowed there'd be more rapes.

If drug laws were adhered to, 75% of the population would be in
prison.

If gun laws weren't ignored, there'd be MORE robberies, rape,
muggings.

If speed limits were enforced, we'd all be late for work.

Scotty





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