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You are being purposely closed-minded. I still am asking you to
describe one situation where if both sailboats are following the sailing rules why would Rule 13 ever come into play. Since you have not and cannot, I stick by my statement that given the three sailing rules and given they are being followed, Rule 13 is superfluous. CN "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... Capt. Neal® wrote: "Wally" wrote in message ... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message Good point but it is physically impossible for a sailboat to windward to stay out of the way of another to leeward if the leeward vessel is more weatherly. The windward vessel cannot point higher to avoid the leeward vessel. He cannot fall off without creating a close quarters situation, and he cannot speed up or slow down because those things depend on the speed of the wind. These facts alone negate rule 13 which works well for motor vessels but not for sailing vessels. It is plain to me if one follows the sailing rules then rule 13 is superfluous. The vessel to windward is not neccessarily close-hauled, it's merely the vessel which is upwind of the other. The reason he is the give-way vessel is because he has a better chance of maintaining full control because the downwind boat may be in his wind shadow - the downwind boat may not be able to maneuvre out of trouble. I disagree with you. I say the reason the windward vessel in an overtaking situation is the give way vessel is precisely because he has more options. Total nonsense. There are many cases where the rule are arbitrary. You can't change them because you think they make more sense another way! He has more options up until the time the overtaking vessel is abreast of him, that is. Therefore it's incumbent on the windward vessel to take action to avoid a close quarters situation. Once again, demonstrating why its obvious you never passed the test! This all begs the question of at what point does an overtaking situation actually start? Where does the sailing rule end and the overtaking rule take over. The sailing rule doesn't take affect at all. The windward/leeward rule doesn't apply if one of the vessels is overtaking. You might be able to create an ambiguous condition where two vessels are converging and it isn't clear if the windward vessel is overtaking, but Rule 13 resolves that with: (c) When a vessel is in any doubt as to whether she if overtaking another, she shall assume that this is the case and act accordingly. I say it never does unless the windward vessel fails to follow the sailing rules and creates a close quarters situation. The entire point is rule 13 is superfluous if the sailing rules are followed. That's why you never could have passed the test! |
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