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OzOne wrote Scary ****. As is everything to you. Boo! ;) |
I'd call that a damned fine testimonial of USN Damage Control
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No luck. The United States has had the best Navy in the world for almost 250
years, thanks to people such as myself, DSK, Joe, Ole Thom, and people of Naval Auxilaries such as Capt Neal of the Merchant Marine, a finer officer there never was! You can thank your lucky stars that America has shielded Australia with its nuclear umbrella and that when one point of its nuclear triad runs directly into a mountain, it gets back to port with absolutely no danger from a nuclear accident. The whole incident is a testimonial to excellence - American excellence! Gilligan OzOne wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:33:49 GMT, otnmbrd scribbled thusly: I'd call that a damned fine testimonial of USN Damage Control marinated in lots of luck. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
OzOne wrote in :
http://www.navy.mil/view_gallery.asp?category_id=17 I wonder just how many serious injuries were sustaine in a grounding that hard? 1 death...no mention of injuries he http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/27/sub...ged/index.html Apparently the underwater 'speed bump' wasn't on the charts?! |
Right you are Gilligan,
The picture shows the vessel after most of the damaged skin was removed. Most the compartment you see open to the air are forward of the collision bulkhead. Infact you can see the collision bulkhead in the picture. What was lost seems to be ballast tanks, torpedo tubes equipment spaces ect. Thats why a collision bulkhead is of extreme importance on a ocean going vessel. Take RedCloud for instance, she has 5 foot of bow that could be smashed in and still sail along without taking on any water. Then 3 other seperate water tight compartments. Also I think the sub hit a mound or ledge not a speed bump as some call it, unless they were flying sideways. Almost looks like they rammed a ship off the port quarter. I wonder if the story we hear is just a cover-up? Thanks for the link. Joe |
Right you are, Joe. It's clear from the damaged area
on the bow that they had to run the thing into the upper part of an underwater cave opening and not a seamount. Either that or a steeply inverted seamount. Yeh Right! It's clear even to this novice that there was plenty of shear action taking place. Do seamounts move at a high rate of speed? It seems to me they hit a ship or another sub and are engaging in a cover up. Probably rammed a Russian sub. Good riddance, I say. The Russian sub probably sunk and was crushed with all hands lost. God is good. CN "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Right you are Gilligan, The picture shows the vessel after most of the damaged skin was removed. Most the compartment you see open to the air are forward of the collision bulkhead. Infact you can see the collision bulkhead in the picture. What was lost seems to be ballast tanks, torpedo tubes equipment spaces ect. Thats why a collision bulkhead is of extreme importance on a ocean going vessel. Take RedCloud for instance, she has 5 foot of bow that could be smashed in and still sail along without taking on any water. Then 3 other seperate water tight compartments. Also I think the sub hit a mound or ledge not a speed bump as some call it, unless they were flying sideways. Almost looks like they rammed a ship off the port quarter. I wonder if the story we hear is just a cover-up? Thanks for the link. Joe |
No.. if it were a Russian sub Moscow would be banging on the door
demanding lots of greenback. Maybe a Japanese Long liner or Purse Seainer or Whaling ship. Sheeeze recovering the last Japanese fishing ship cost over a billion dollars..... all because of the outdated self centered Japanese culture. If I go down on a ship or boat leave me there..A finer grave you will not find. Joe |
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... No.. if it were a Russian sub Moscow would be banging on the door demanding lots of greenback. Maybe a Japanese Long liner or Purse Seainer or Whaling ship. Sheeeze recovering the last Japanese fishing ship cost over a billion dollars..... all because of the outdated self centered Japanese culture. If I go down on a ship or boat leave me there..A finer grave you will not find. I'd rather be cradled in the arms of morphine . . . CN |
"Joe" wrote
Thats why a collision bulkhead is of extreme importance on a ocean going vessel. Take RedCloud for instance, she has 5 foot of bow that could be smashed in and still sail along without taking on any water. Then 3 other seperate water tight compartments. That's mighty impressive, Joe. BTW how deep *is* your slip? Scotty |
Scott Vernon wrote: "Joe" wrote Thats why a collision bulkhead is of extreme importance on a ocean going vessel. Take RedCloud for instance, she has 5 foot of bow that could be smashed in and still sail along without taking on any water. Then 3 other seperate water tight compartments. That's mighty impressive, Joe. Not impressive Scotty, Safe and well engineered. How many water tight compartments do you have on your boat? BTW how deep *is* your slip? High tide or low tide? North wind or South? Close to the dock, or out towards the center? Port or Starboard side? Joe Scotty |
Joe,
Are you saying "Redcloud" doesn't have limbar holes in her Bilge? How many bilge pumps do you have? Are they automatic pumps with their own level switches? Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
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One main self priming 4hp electric with manifold and hard piping to all three compartments. Pump is in engineroom mounted the same height as the Gen set approx 3 ft above waterline 3 Atwells on float switches, one in each WT compartment. Yes I have limber holes but not between each compartment. Solid bulkheads up to the deck with all items running thru the bulkhead are in compression fitting and are water tight as well. Joe |
"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scott Vernon wrote: "Joe" wrote Thats why a collision bulkhead is of extreme importance on a ocean going vessel. Take RedCloud for instance, she has 5 foot of bow that could be smashed in and still sail along without taking on any water. Then 3 other seperate water tight compartments. That's mighty impressive, Joe. Not impressive Scotty, Safe and well engineered. How many water tight compartments do you have on your boat? Uh.....counting the holding and water tank? two. SV |
I would have said it rammed one of your Collins class subs but I don't think
any have gotten out of port yet. OzOne wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:49:26 GMT, "Gilligan" scribbled thusly: No luck. The United States has had the best Navy in the world for almost 250 years, thanks to people such as myself, DSK, Joe, Ole Thom, and people of Naval Auxilaries such as Capt Neal of the Merchant Marine, a finer officer there never was! You can thank your lucky stars that America has shielded Australia with its nuclear umbrella and that when one point of its nuclear triad runs directly into a mountain, it gets back to port with absolutely no danger from a nuclear accident. The whole incident is a testimonial to excellence - American excellence! Ahh yes, it appears that the US is well versed in 'damage control' Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Redcloud got Pneuma beat all to hell. That is very fine planning and
construction Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
"Thom Stewart" wrote Redcloud got Pneuma beat all to hell. So does a Mac26X . . . CN |
Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Thom Stewart" wrote Redcloud got Pneumonia beat all to hell. So does a Mac26X . . . CN |
I would be proud to claim it was my planning and construction, but
thats the way she came. Joe |
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