DSK wrote:

Jeff Morris wrote:

I didn't see a single example of ridiculing another boat there.
Ridiculing "Bobsprit" does not count as ridiculing "contributors."
You've been around long enough to know the difference.


Well, those aren't very good examples. This is USENET, ridicule is
standard procedure.

Jim's problem is that he demands respect for his ignorance and insists
that we all envy his "boat." Then he posts stories about his "sailing
experience" of which motoring is the highlight; the funny thing is that
he doesn't know much about his own boat and thinks that comparing it to
a Valiant 40 makes it better.

Hey Jim, you figure out how that "rotating mast" works yet?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Jeff, have you never seen a cat or trimaran with a rotating mast? How
ignorant can you be, actually.

Jim

Oh, now I see. It's bash the Scotty time...
Loser powerboater

Jim Cate wrote:
Scott,

What particular MacGregor boat did you have? I'm thinking
that you must have had an old, out-of-date model that
didn't include the new improvements.

Jim



Scott Vernon wrote:

"katysails" wrote

Maybe he's afraid his boat will turn back into a
zucchini squash at midnight?



Why? that would be an improvement.

Scotty

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

Really? The what was powering it when I turned the motor off?

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

"Powering it"???... I don't know Jim.... the batteries???

"She's Dead Jim"...

CM

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

Oh Yeah Jimbo.... 'sailboat'.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

so we didn't get a lot of great sailing

the capabilities of the boat to power back at planing speeds

We were easily making 14 knots with normal load

the boat does attain planing speeds,

and its speed under power does indeed provide

Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa.... you own a floating piece of ****!

CM

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

- Right? Incidentally, how
fast will YOUR BOAT get you back to the dock if the winds are down?
7 knots? 6 Knots? 5 knots?

Well Jimbo.... It won't look like your dorkmobile with a ridiculous stick
leaned back at a 45 degree angle as you push water trying to get holeshot
from a 50 hp outboard bolted to the flimsiest, ugly, oil canning piece of
**** maragarine container to ever float.

You know both power boaters and sailors laugh at you.....

CM

"bell" wrote in message

Oh, now I see. It's bash the Scotty time...
Loser powerboater

Typical isn't it?

The Mac26 isn't even a powerboat..... it's floating garbage. The ****boxes
can't even get on step with a 100 hp outboard.

CM

Jim Cate wrote:


DSK wrote:

....
Hey Jim, you figure out how that "rotating mast" works yet?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jeff, have you never seen a cat or trimaran with a rotating mast? How
ignorant can you be, actually.

You seem to keep confusing Doug and I; do you have a problem keeping
facts straight?

BTW, I've been on a number of boats with rotating masts. Its really
nothing new. Many small boats and most beach cats have rotating rigs.
You just don't see them often on cruising boats, because they aren't
very strong compared to a traditional rig. And while you can make a
case that it produces a more efficient rig, you can also create more
efficient rigs with full length battens and a large roach without
sacrificing strength.

Do some Googleing.


"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Scott,

What particular MacGregor boat did you have? I'm thinking that you
must
have had an old, out-of-date model that didn't include the new
improvements.

Jim



Scott Vernon wrote:

"katysails" wrote

Maybe he's afraid his boat will turn back into a zucchini squash
at
midnight?



Why? that would be an improvement.

Scotty

"Jim Cate" wrote



fortunately, the winds have been erratic and variable in Galveston
Bay
during the past two weeks, so we used that as an excuse to POWER
around all day.

Jimbo

lemme see if I can explain this to you, Jimmy. A real sailor would
rather ......ahhh never mind, you'll never understand.

Scotty

"Jim Cate" wrote in

W0w, what a sailor!

Katy, there's not much I can do about the weather, is there now? But
you
know Katy, we can't always get what we want. - Right? Incidentally,
how
fast will YOUR BOAT get you back to the dock if the winds are
down?
7 knots? 6 Knots? 5 knots?

Jim

Leave Jim alone or Ill kick your ass Scotty.

Joe

HEY, he started it.


"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Leave Jim alone or Ill kick your ass Scotty.

Joe

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
lemme see if I can explain this to you, Jimmy. A real sailor would
rather ......ahhh never mind, you'll never understand.

Scotty

Thanks, Scotty. I forgot why I kf'ed "Jim".

John Cairns


"Jim Cate" wrote in

W0w, what a sailor!

Katy, there's not much I can do about the weather, is there now? But
you
know Katy, we can't always get what we want. - Right? Incidentally,
how
fast will YOUR BOAT get you back to the dock if the winds are
down?
7 knots? 6 Knots? 5 knots?

Jim

Bull****!

He just wants to share his pride in his Mac with us all.
and you jumped on him like a chicken on a June bug.

Joe

hey, if you can't take the heat, stay the hell off Usenet.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Bull****!

He just wants to share his pride in his Mac with us all.
and you jumped on him like a chicken on a June bug.

Joe

Hey..... asa is better than Usenet. No sence in being rude even if jim
did purchace a
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rude? I was being nice to him. You wanna see rude?

SV

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey..... asa is better than Usenet. No sence in being rude even if
jim
did purchace a

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Jim Cate wrote:


Jeff Morris wrote:

Jim Cate wrote:

Interesting. A while back I was being criticised for not taking the
boat out often enough. Now that I have the time to take it out, I'm
criticised for reporting on two recent outings.


Maybe because all you said about the "sailing" was how nice it was
that you could power back in before dark. I'm sure almost all of us
have powered back, but we usually don't consider that the highlite of
the sailing day. In fact, If I were not such an unsuspecting soul, I
might think you were ridiculing us for having such underpowered
sailboats.

However, I'm curious Jim, how fast do you go when you power in?
Planing speed for you could be anything over 7 knots. Also, do you
leave it in the water, or trailer it? Do you keep the ballast tank
filled all the time? Have you taken it out into the ocean?


Unfortunately, the winds have been erratic and variable in Galveston Bay
during the past two weeks, so we didn't get a lot of great sailing
weather. In answer to your note, the point I was making was that the
capabilities of the boat to power back at planing speeds enabled us to
get back to shore quickly and in time to get the boat out of the water
and safely put to bed in its slot before dark.

That's nice. I guess I was doing something wrong when I use to sail
back all the time because my first cruising boat didn't have and engine.

We were easily making 14 knots

Are your sure? Does that mean you finally got your GPS? Is that really
knots or MPH? Actually, on a flat, without loading the boat too much,
you should be able to get up to 14 knots.

with normal load and with the water ballast filled, (I haven't
really had time to adjust the trim

How much trim is there? Doesn't the dealer know what angle to set the
engine at - so what else would you trim?


and check the boat for maximum speed
yet.) which got us back to the marina much faster than any other sailing
vessel on the Bay.

Most powerboats are.

In other words, the boat does attain planing speeds,
and it does pass almost any other sailboat on the bay, and its speed
under power does indeed provide significant advantages in our
particular sailing environment. (In a conventional keel boat with diesel
engine, it takes almost an hour to get the boat out to the sailing area,
and another hour getting it back to the dock.)

Just how far is this "sailing area" that you had to power out to but had
no wind?

No.

Jim's a nice guy, packed over a 12 pack of Corona beer last time he
came by. He might be happy with his Mac.

hey he's sailing and you and many of the other yankees are frozen to
the dock.

He's having a great time sailing the bay..and many here are watching
icecycles melt.
BTW Jim we will be out off Kemah early tommorow AM.

Joe

The point is, dunderhead, that who wants to get back to the dock fast????
That's why people sail...so they aren't pressured into the rat race thing of
having to do this or that...you just don't get it, do you?

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


katysails wrote:

Maybe he turns into something after dark? Maybe he's afraid of the dark?
Maybe he's afraid his boat will turn back into a zucchini squash at
midnight?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Jim Cate" wrote

We did enjoy motoring back at planing
speeds which permitted us to get the boat back on shore and in its

slot

before night.

W0w, what a sailor!

Katy, there's not much I can do about the weather, is there now? But you
know Katy, we can't always get what we want. - Right? Incidentally, how
fast will YOUR BOAT get you back to the dock if the winds are down?
7 knots? 6 Knots? 5 knots?

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

In answer to your note, the point I was making was that the
capabilities of the boat to power back at planing speeds enabled us
to
get back to shore quickly and in time to get the boat out of the
water
and safely put to bed in its slot before dark.

You afraid of the dark, Jim?

You related to Ozzy?

Scotty

Huh? No sense in being rude??? You want to change the whole tone of this
newsgroup??? Are you nuts or something?

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey..... asa is better than Usenet. No sence in being rude even if jim
did purchace a
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Ah...now I get it...you can be bought...

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
No.

Jim's a nice guy, packed over a 12 pack of Corona beer last time he
came by. He might be happy with his Mac.

hey he's sailing and you and many of the other yankees are frozen to
the dock.

He's having a great time sailing the bay..and many here are watching
icecycles melt.
BTW Jim we will be out off Kemah early tommorow AM.

Joe

Are you his Uncle or sumptin? Did he buy you a six pack?

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey..... asa is better than Usenet. No sence in being rude even if
jim
did purchace a

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Hot air rising from the cockpit, no doubt...

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message


Gotta disagree with you there Scotty, you did not ridicule any boats; a
26XM is
not a boat.


Oh it's a boat alright...... just NOT a Sailboat!

CM

Really? The what was powering it when I turned the motor off?

Jim

A-HA I knew it!


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Ah...now I get it...you can be bought...

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
No.

Jim's a nice guy, packed over a 12 pack of Corona beer last time
he
came by. He might be happy with his Mac.

hey he's sailing and you and many of the other yankees are frozen
to
the dock.

He's having a great time sailing the bay..and many here are
watching
icecycles melt.
BTW Jim we will be out off Kemah early tommorow AM.

Joe

Scott Vernon wrote:
lemme see if I can explain this to you, Jimmy. A real
sailor would rather ......ahhh never mind, you'll never
understand.

Scotty

ROTFL MAO! Can't argue with that.


"Jim Cate" wrote in

W0w, what a sailor!

Katy, there's not much I can do about the weather, is
there now? But you know Katy, we can't always get what
we want. - Right? Incidentally, how fast will YOUR BOAT
get you back to the dock if the winds are down? 7
knots? 6 Knots? 5 knots?

Jim

You're missing the important part...he's not sailing. He's motoring. At
least DSK has a powerboat, not a *something-or-the-other* that doesn't
know what it is.

Joe wrote:
No.

Jim's a nice guy, packed over a 12 pack of Corona beer
last time he came by. He might be happy with his Mac.

hey he's sailing and you and many of the other yankees
are frozen to the dock.

He's having a great time sailing the bay..and many here
are watching icecycles melt.
BTW Jim we will be out off Kemah early tommorow AM.

Joe

Scott Vernon wrote:
Are you his Uncle or sumptin? Did he buy you a TWELVE pack?

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey..... asa is better than Usenet. No sence in being
rude even if jim did purchace a

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Capt. Mooron wrote:
"bell" wrote in message

Oh, now I see. It's bash the Scotty time...
Loser powerboater

Typical isn't it?

The Mac26 isn't even a powerboat..... it's floating
garbage. The ****boxes can't even get on step with a 100
hp outboard.
CM

Don't give garbage such a bad name, please.

Jim Cate wrote:



Oh it's a boat alright...... just NOT a Sailboat!

CM


Really? The what was powering it when I turned the motor off?

You must be extraordinarily thick; no motor, no power, boat no go.

I've sailed past Mac26xs when they were apparently trying to remove wrinkles from sailcloth by hanging it in the breeze, the "boats" were not moving.
All sailors know that Mac26xs do not move when the motor is not running, except if borne by a current.

Cheers
Marty