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Just got my sails back
UPS just dropped my sails of from their cleaning and overhaul at sail
care. I am impressed. They look pretty good. Got all the leather pockets replaced on the luff of my main and general restitching and some overstiching in the clew. Also had 2 jibs and the mizzen done as well. Anyone else use these guys before? Mundo |
Mundo wrote:
UPS just dropped my sails of from their cleaning and overhaul at sail care. I am impressed. They look pretty good. Got all the leather pockets replaced on the luff of my main and general restitching and some overstiching in the clew. Also had 2 jibs and the mizzen done as well. Anyone else use these guys before? No, but I've worked over many a tired sail myself. Usually the outer ends of the batten pockets are the first to go. BTW it's worth the extra money IMHO to pay for the new hi-tech UV-resistant thread. So what is your sail inventory? Got any mizzen staysails? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
I have a 140% gen roller reefing. I have a clubfooted jib also roller.
Main, Mizzen, 2 mizzen staysails (light, and a heavy, Drifter, and a wind scoop;)I am also almost finished making my new dodger and sail covers. I had them sew on the same sunbrella on the sun stips for the jibs. Boat has been painted and all that is left is a couple of days of bright work when the weather warms. Also installed some new electronics. Knotmeter depth anemometer. The boat is 30 years old this year. It was due for a little attention. Mundo DSK wrote: No, but I've worked over many a tired sail myself. Usually the outer ends of the batten pockets are the first to go. BTW it's worth the extra money IMHO to pay for the new hi-tech UV-resistant thread. So what is your sail inventory? Got any mizzen staysails? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Woefully inadequate sail inventory. It's
that of a rank amateur. You need some storm sails and at least a couple more light air headsails plus a spinnaker. CN "Mundo" wrote in message news:KwVHd.9778$ef6.4026@trnddc07... I have a 140% gen roller reefing. I have a clubfooted jib also roller. Main, Mizzen, 2 mizzen staysails (light, and a heavy, Drifter, and a wind scoop;)I am also almost finished making my new dodger and sail covers. I had them sew on the same sunbrella on the sun stips for the jibs. Boat has been painted and all that is left is a couple of days of bright work when the weather warms. Also installed some new electronics. Knotmeter depth anemometer. The boat is 30 years old this year. It was due for a little attention. Mundo DSK wrote: No, but I've worked over many a tired sail myself. Usually the outer ends of the batten pockets are the first to go. BTW it's worth the extra money IMHO to pay for the new hi-tech UV-resistant thread. So what is your sail inventory? Got any mizzen staysails? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
I don't do any of that sort of tedious book keeping. It's a simple
matter to look at how the sails set and note the condition of the stitching when underway and when the sail is bent on, raised or lowered. The best time to not the shape of a sail is after a good rain when sailing for a day or so. When the sail dries, all the wrinkles smooth out and the sail looks primo. CN OzOne wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:40:20 -0500, Capt. NealŽ scribbled thusly: Since I sail more months out of the year than I sit, I usually have to buy sails every three to four years. Cappy, do you log sail usage? I've set up an onboard database with which I track the use of the sail and the conditions under which it was used based on Beaufort. It allows me to easily keep track of how much use any particular sail has had, monitor its probable condition and with a close inspection at regular intervals assess it's potential life and value for money. I log any repairs required as well so I know instantly which sail to take off the boat for repair, and which ones I should be having a close look at for potential problems. Saves me a huge amount of time pulling sails out to go over them each season. I probably should look at having a programmer put the whole thing into an easy to use package for commercial sale...I don't think there is anything like that around. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:08:18 GMT, Mundo wrote this
crap: UPS just dropped my sails of from their cleaning and overhaul at sail care. I am impressed. They look pretty good. Got all the leather pockets replaced on the luff of my main and general restitching and some overstiching in the clew. Also had 2 jibs and the mizzen done as well. Anyone else use these guys before? Mundo My sails don't get dirty. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:40:20 -0500, Capt. NealŽ
wrote this crap: Sails, standing and running rigging and bottom paint are the top priorities upon which we real sailors spend our coins. Rum comes in after the above. You forgot to mention electronics. Real sailors invest in electronics. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:21:44 -0500, Capt. NealŽ
wrote this crap: I don't do any of that sort of tedious book keeping. It's a simple matter to look at how the sails set and note the condition of the stitching when underway and when the sail is bent on, raised or lowered. The best time to not the shape of a sail is after a good rain when sailing for a day or so. When the sail dries, all the wrinkles smooth out and the sail looks primo. What do you got for sails? canvas? Rain doesn't affect dacron. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
What do you mean rain doesn't affect Dacron.
Rain gets Dacron wet. Duh! Dacron expands when it gets wet. CN "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:21:44 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote this crap: I don't do any of that sort of tedious book keeping. It's a simple matter to look at how the sails set and note the condition of the stitching when underway and when the sail is bent on, raised or lowered. The best time to not the shape of a sail is after a good rain when sailing for a day or so. When the sail dries, all the wrinkles smooth out and the sail looks primo. What do you got for sails? canvas? Rain doesn't affect dacron. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Electronics are a luxury item. Sails, etc. are necessities. CN "Horvath" wrote in message ... You forgot to mention electronics. Real sailors invest in electronics. |
"Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:08:18 GMT, Mundo wrote this crap: UPS just dropped my sails of from their cleaning and overhaul at sail care. I am impressed. They look pretty good. Got all the leather pockets replaced on the luff of my main and general restitching and some overstiching in the clew. Also had 2 jibs and the mizzen done as well. Anyone else use these guys before? Mundo My sails don't get dirty. and we all know why. |
Looks that way. Then off to Crisfield. Heading up to maine in early
June. Then east to Nova Scotia and spend a few weeks cruising back with the kids in August. Scott Vernon wrote: Does that mean you'll be back in the water come Spring? Scotty |
Sounds good! Let me know if you come up the bay.
Scotty "Mundo" wrote in message news:ru_Hd.10830$HT6.1252@trnddc04... Looks that way. Then off to Crisfield. Heading up to maine in early June. Then east to Nova Scotia and spend a few weeks cruising back with the kids in August. Scott Vernon wrote: Does that mean you'll be back in the water come Spring? Scotty |
Crap'n NealŽ scribbled thusly:
I don't do any of that sort of tedious book keeping. Of course not, you can't even count to twelve. ... It's a simple matter to look at how the sails set and note the condition of the stitching when underway and when the sail is bent on, raised or lowered. Sure, when your sails are the size of a beach towel. ... The best time to not the shape of a sail is after a good rain when sailing for a day or so. When the sail dries, all the wrinkles smooth out and the sail looks primo. ??? Does rain have any effect on sails? How about salt water spray? But you don't have to worry about that OzOne wrote: True, I look the sail over every time it's hoisted, and have a quick glance over before it's doused and note any problems. I find the "book keeping" is quick and easy, and actually saves time dragging out a sail that you may not have used for a while to check its condition. Considering that un-bagging and un-rolling etc etc then re-folding & rolling & bagging the sail also takes it's toll, I think that sounds like a great idea. We used to have a spreadsheet with our sail inventory and data on the sail such as wind range, apparent angle, mast tuning, etc etc. It was fun. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Scott Vernon wrote:
Does that mean you'll be back in the water come Spring? Mundo wrote: Looks that way. Then off to Crisfield. Heading up to maine in early June. Then east to Nova Scotia and spend a few weeks cruising back with the kids in August. If you're in Nova Scotia in August, you're going to need to head south in a hurry! Going by way of Bermuda? That sounds like a great cruise. I have not spent much time north of Cape Cod but would like to cruise that area myself, especially now with a boat with radar and a good heater! Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Well, that says a lot about you.
S. "Horvath" wrote in message ... : On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:37:31 -0500, Capt. NealŽ : wrote this crap: : : : Electronics are a luxury item. Sails, etc. are necessities. : : : If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a : necessity. : : : : "Horvath" wrote in message ... : You forgot to mention electronics. Real sailors invest in : electronics. : : : : Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Horvath wrote:
If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a necessity. Especially on Lasers! DSK |
Doug, what electronics do you have on your J18?
S. "DSK" wrote in message . .. : Horvath wrote: : If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a : necessity. : : : Especially on Lasers! : : DSK : |
The sailor having Nova Scotia on his agenda.. should include Lunenburg and Chester as well as Bedford Basin ... Peggy's Cove will dazzle you. -- Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea! Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_ Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___ q |
NotPony wrote:
Doug, what electronics do you have on your J18? My watch! DSK |
Okay, I concede. I suppose electronics are a
necessity for racers. S. "DSK" wrote in message . .. : NotPony wrote: : Doug, what electronics do you have on your J18? : : My watch! : : DSK : |
Doug,
Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island in the summer time is a pure joy. Ole Thom |
Thom Stewart wrote:
Doug, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island in the summer time is a pure joy. Yeah, but their "summer time" is the first two weeks of August. After that you need an electrically heated parka, boots & mittens just to survive! DSK |
Iwill more than likely head up the bay and straight shot to Boothbay
area offshore from Cape May. Scott Vernon wrote: Sounds good! Let me know if you come up the bay. Scotty "Mundo" wrote in message news:ru_Hd.10830$HT6.1252@trnddc04... Looks that way. Then off to Crisfield. Heading up to maine in early June. Then east to Nova Scotia and spend a few weeks cruising back with the kids in August. Scott Vernon wrote: Does that mean you'll be back in the water come Spring? Scotty |
Fee...maybe I should install some electronics on Katydid....maybe a
radar...could always shift it from side to side for ballast... "NotPony" wrote in message news:4j8Id.12419$IP6.1809@trnddc05... Doug, what electronics do you have on your J18? S. "DSK" wrote in message . .. : Horvath wrote: : If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a : necessity. : : : Especially on Lasers! : : DSK : |
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:36:17 -0500, Capt. NealŽ
wrote this crap: What do you mean rain doesn't affect Dacron. Rain gets Dacron wet. Duh! Dacron expands when it gets wet. CN I'd like to know where you learned that. I've been to twenty websites about dacron sails, and I haven't read that. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
You learn by sailing in the rain. But, you would rather surf the net, it seems.
CN "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:36:17 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote this crap: What do you mean rain doesn't affect Dacron. Rain gets Dacron wet. Duh! Dacron expands when it gets wet. CN I'd like to know where you learned that. I've been to twenty websites about dacron sails, and I haven't read that. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
http://www.nonwovens-industry.com/June032.htm Can you say hydrophilic? CN "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:36:17 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote this crap: What do you mean rain doesn't affect Dacron. Rain gets Dacron wet. Duh! Dacron expands when it gets wet. CN I'd like to know where you learned that. I've been to twenty websites about dacron sails, and I haven't read that. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Poor sicko BB. He just can't seem to get his mind off
his sexual fantasies. Even when he posts to a sailing group, most of the time he's wanking himself thinking about children. Get some help, get it fast. CN wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:30:25 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote: http://www.nonwovens-industry.com/June032.htm Can you say pedophilic? CN "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:36:17 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote this crap: What do you mean rain doesn't affect Dacron. Rain gets Dacron wet. Duh! Dacron expands when it gets wet. CN I'd like to know where you learned that. I've been to twenty websites about dacron sails, and I haven't read that. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:16:50 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap: Horvath wrote: If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a necessity. Especially on Lasers! DSK I'm talking about real boats. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Doug knows nothing about real boats.
CN "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:16:50 -0500, DSK wrote this crap: Horvath wrote: If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a necessity. Especially on Lasers! DSK I'm talking about real boats. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Boothbay Harbour is another gem.. with a village and walking bridge like no other. -- Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea! Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_ Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___ q |
Horvath wrote:
I'm talking about real boats. Lasers aren't real boats? They're an Olympic class! I highly recommend jumping on one and blasting around to get in touch with real sailing skills... ones that don't depend on a digital read-out. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message . .. Horvath wrote: I'm talking about real boats. Lasers aren't real boats? They're an Olympic class! I highly recommend jumping on one and blasting around to get in touch with real sailing skills... ones that don't depend on a digital read-out. DSK I am going to have to try some dinghy sailing next summer, fer sure. John Cairns |
Give me a heads-up when you do.
Scotty "Mundo" wrote in message news:7bdId.10835$ef6.5811@trnddc07... Iwill more than likely head up the bay and straight shot to Boothbay area offshore from Cape May. Scott Vernon wrote: Sounds good! Let me know if you come up the bay. Scotty "Mundo" wrote in message news:ru_Hd.10830$HT6.1252@trnddc04... Looks that way. Then off to Crisfield. Heading up to maine in early June. Then east to Nova Scotia and spend a few weeks cruising back with the kids in August. Scott Vernon wrote: Does that mean you'll be back in the water come Spring? Scotty |
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:24:48 -0500, Capt. NealŽ
wrote this crap: You learn by sailing in the rain. Then how would you know? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 19:58:47 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap: Horvath wrote: I'm talking about real boats. Lasers aren't real boats? They're an Olympic class! So is archery. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:30:25 -0500, Capt. NealŽ
wrote this crap: http://www.nonwovens-industry.com/June032.htm DuPonts Dacron polyester fiber is currently used as a reinforcement material in wallpaper with more advantages during installation. These include no paste dwell time, immediate adhesion and dimensional stability when wet. I see, "stability when wet." To me, that means it doesn't stretch when wet. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Do you really have your sails made from wallpaper? I guess with your
farts wallpaper needs as much stability when wet as sails would. Horvath wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:30:25 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote this crap: http://www.nonwovens-industry.com/June032.htm DuPont's Dacron polyester fiber is currently used as a reinforcement material in wallpaper with more advantages during installation. These include no paste dwell time, immediate adhesion and dimensional stability when wet. I see, "stability when wet." To me, that means it doesn't stretch when wet. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Hey Ozone, breathe some oxygen. NotPony didn't say that, Horse's Ass did.
Here's NotPony's post: On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:30:09 GMT, "NotPony" typed: Well, that says a lot about you. S. "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:37:31 -0500, Capt. NealŽ wrote this crap: Electronics are a luxury item. Sails, etc. are necessities. If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a necessity. "Horvath" wrote in message ... You forgot to mention electronics. Real sailors invest in electronics. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! OzOne wrote: On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:30:09 GMT, "NotPony" scribbled thusly: If you knew anything about racing, you'd know that electronics are a necessity. Bwaaaaahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhaaaa! They are specifically banned in a lot of classes, not even electronic compasses are allowed. Lets see, Etchells, Solings,Dragons....just for starters Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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