Crapton Neal;

My main is 160 sq ft. Larger than yours. What is the size of your Hong
Kong Main anyhow? You should be able to give us a very accurate reading
right off your purchase sheet as I did.

My "J" is 11' 10". I carry a 319 sq ft Jenny on a furler. It is a 10-40
HH Regulater 150%

For light air I have a Hild 170% Drifter which is 331 sq ft, which I can
fly free behind the rolled up jenny or I can remove the Jenny and set
the Drifter in the slot on the twin groove furler, for racing purpose in
Cruising Class,

I also, carry a Assy. Spinnaker that falls somewhere in between the
Jenny and the Drifter. Not sure exactly the sq ft ? I've modified it a
few times. Added panels to it between the bottom panel (2) Eased the top
Vertical section some when I put it in the sleeve.

That's my sails. I know my "P" is higher than yours because you told me
the main I offered you was to long. Tell us Neal, what is the size of
Rig?

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

"Thom Stewart" wrote
For light air I have a Hild 170% Drifter which is 331 sq ft, which I
can
fly free behind the rolled up jenny

Thom, how do you attach the tack?

Scotty

Scott,

With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It is
in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it flies
clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard, which
is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind.

Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting on
the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when I
tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs to be
guided around.

Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the furler
and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler.

The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the time.
Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to leave
the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it.

When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the spreader
to free it from the furler.

If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The Drifter
works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag.

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a new genny ( I
hope).

My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was wondering how good
those 'ATN Tacker' work.

Scotty



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott,

With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It
is
in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it
flies
clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard,
which
is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind.

Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting
on
the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when
I
tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs
to be
guided around.

Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the
furler
and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler.

The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the
time.
Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to
leave
the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it.

When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the
spreader
to free it from the furler.

If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The
Drifter
works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag.

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

Scott Vernon wrote:
I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a
new genny ( I hope).

My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was
wondering how good those 'ATN Tacker' work.

Scotty

With a drifter and a furler, you really don't want to use the hook. A
properly sized snapshackle is a much better choice. If you really need to
know how I know this, I will explain, but I'd rather not. Think of the
slackened halyard tension, super light winds, and slowly tacking the
drifter as it's weight slackens the luff.




"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott,

With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on
the bow. It is in front of the furler but as soon as the
sail fills with air it flies clear. The same for the
peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard, which is
forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind.

Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the
upper fitting on the furler. I carry my lazy sheet
forward of the furler so that when I tack, everything
clears to the other side. The clew usually needs to be
guided around.

Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet
behind the furler and let the peak and the tack wrap
around the furler.

The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most
of the time. Tacking is very simple this way and single
handing I don't have to leave the cockpit. I have to be
on the proper tack to lower it.

When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position
over the spreader to free it from the furler.

If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some
pictures. The Drifter works great. It has really kept
the Spinnaker in its Bag.

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

"bell" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a
new genny ( I hope).

My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was
wondering how good those 'ATN Tacker' work.

Scotty

With a drifter and a furler, you really don't want to use the hook.
A
properly sized snapshackle is a much better choice. If you really
need to
know how I know this, I will explain, but I'd rather not. Think of
the
slackened halyard tension, super light winds, and slowly tacking the
drifter as it's weight slackens the luff.


gotcha.

SV

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a new genny ( I
hope).

My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was wondering how good
those 'ATN Tacker' work.

Scotty

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...83724087CHymmL

Works fairly well, but considering the cost ($75 IIRC) I couldn't help
thinking afterward that I might have been able to fabricate something along
the same lines that worked just as well for next to nothing.

John Cairns



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott,

With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It
is
in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it
flies
clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard,
which
is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind.

Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting
on
the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when
I
tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs
to be
guided around.

Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the
furler
and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler.

The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the
time.
Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to
leave
the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it.

When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the
spreader
to free it from the furler.

If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The
Drifter
works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag.

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

Scott & John,

First; Scotty, About the ATN Tacker. I carvered mine out off a used Tide
Plastic bottle with a line stitched to the outside with loops to take a
shackle. If you want one, send me a snail Addy and I'll ship you one.

Second; John, if you need a down haul a block to the Tack Hook, which
you're not using, and a line to the tack, thru the block and back to the
cockpit to a cleat.
Also, John, looking at the picture, you would be much better off running
your Spinnaker forward of all those lines, with your sheets outside
everything (Both working sheet and lazy sheet) Then Gybbing, you head up
a bit, let go the working sheet, pull the spinnaker thru to the wind
shadow of the Main. Set the new working sheet, Gybe the Main and away
you go on the new course

That is another joy off the Cruising Spinnaker. Easy Gybbing, no pole
and only sheets and down haul, to be set from the cockpit. No one at the
pointy end of the boat during a Gybe.

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

Why did you use a plastic bottle? Why not a wide nylon strap?

Scotty

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott & John,

First; Scotty, About the ATN Tacker. I carvered mine out off a used
Tide
Plastic bottle with a line stitched to the outside with loops to
take a
shackle. If you want one, send me a snail Addy and I'll ship you
one.

Second; John, if you need a down haul a block to the Tack Hook,
which
you're not using, and a line to the tack, thru the block and back to
the
cockpit to a cleat.
Also, John, looking at the picture, you would be much better off
running
your Spinnaker forward of all those lines, with your sheets outside
everything (Both working sheet and lazy sheet) Then Gybbing, you
head up
a bit, let go the working sheet, pull the spinnaker thru to the wind
shadow of the Main. Set the new working sheet, Gybe the Main and
away
you go on the new course

That is another joy off the Cruising Spinnaker. Easy Gybbing, no
pole
and only sheets and down haul, to be set from the cockpit. No one at
the
pointy end of the boat during a Gybe.

Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage

John,

A good stitching job in the tack corner of your main.

Take note Neal! That's a corner of a main that has a bolt rope in the
foot of the SAIL.

Thanks for the picture,
Ole Thom


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage