Where are the Arabs when Moslems_really_are_Refugees?
By Naomi Ragen


I have been watching with growing amazement how the
Americans are being criticized for the disaster in the
Indian Ocean. First, the UN (Americans are the largest
financial contributor to the UN, with 3 billion dollars
in 2003 alone) called America "stingy." Then President
Bush, who made a policy statement 72 hours after the
disaster, while Kofi Anan was still on Christmas
vacation, and the Swedes, who had thousands of
citizens feared dead, had
nothing to say. But no one has said a word about Saudi
Arabia's $10 million dollar aid package.


Wow! Considering the billions they have funnelled into
terror groups, that's really big of them.


Almost exactly a year ago, on Jan 1 2004, Americans
also went to Iran to help when an earthquake killed
30,000. According to CBS news one Iranian cleric
greeted the help with the following statement: "We hate
the arrogance of the Americans and we are sure that
they haven't come for humanitarian reasons, but for
other things like spying," said Abdullah Irani, a
mullah from Qum, the main center for Shia Muslim
clerics in Iran."


And just try to Google Syrian aid for tsunami victims
.... See what you come up with. Zero.


Given the fact that Indonesia is 78% Moslem, and has
lost more than 100,000 people, Sri Lanka is 8% Moslem,
and India is 11% Moslem, one would think that Arab
nations would now show an outpouring of support and
sympathy. After all, isn't that the excuse they always
use for backing the "poor Palestinians" --
that they are fellow Moslems and their solidarity is a
given? And doesn't the West tip-toe around Muslim
sensibilities whether it be the Americans who are
terrified of entering a mosque (even one being used as
a shelter for terrorists), or Parisians who dare to ask
girls not to wear Islamic head coverings to class, or
British, who allow local Imams to give hate sermons in
London mosques? Isn't the Western belief that that to
hurt or offend one Moslem is to hurt and offend them
all? So, how is it, that the great solidarity of the
Islamic world when it comes to their "pride" or their
touchy religious sensibilities doesn't extend to
humanitarian aid when thousands of Moslems lay dead in
the streets? Where are the much touted "Moslem
Benevolent Funds" when you really need them for
something other than guns to kill Israelis and blow up planes?


Makes one think, doesn't it, that perhaps all these
years their concern for the plight of the Palestinian
"refugees" wasn't based on purely humanitarian grounds.
Let's just see how charitable Moslems will be to the
millions of Moslem refugees in Asia now, people who,
unlike the Palestinians, really don't have a roof over
their heads or a way to earn a living. Let's just see.

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942

See what kindness gets you Joe.... a kick in the teeth is what. You guys
should just pull out of there and leave them to their own means. .... while
you're at it.. to hell with the Israel as well.... really... what have they
ever done for you guys anyway?

Oil? Ph-h-h-f-f-t-t.... we got oil in Canada... buy from us. Let's face
it.. you're buying our sick cows at it is.

Until you are prepared to go in to the Arab region and do some sincere and
well intentioned ethnic cleansing you will be fighting a loosing battle that
only serves to bolster the ranks of your enemies and line their pockets with
the cash of sympathizers claiming to be your friends.

It's about time we finished this "Crusade" thing once and for all..... the
world is over-populated anyway. those two faced back-stabbing Camel Jockeys
deserve a one way ticket to the promised land. I'd say it's high time you
punched that ticket and let some real "Oil Men" move in to the area....
like some Texans for instance.

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Where are the Arabs when Moslems_really_are_Refugees?
By Naomi Ragen


I have been watching with growing amazement how the
Americans are being criticized for the disaster in the
Indian Ocean. First, the UN (Americans are the largest
financial contributor to the UN, with 3 billion dollars
in 2003 alone) called America "stingy." Then President
Bush, who made a policy statement 72 hours after the
disaster, while Kofi Anan was still on Christmas
vacation, and the Swedes, who had thousands of
citizens feared dead, had
nothing to say. But no one has said a word about Saudi
Arabia's $10 million dollar aid package.


Wow! Considering the billions they have funnelled into
terror groups, that's really big of them.


Almost exactly a year ago, on Jan 1 2004, Americans
also went to Iran to help when an earthquake killed
30,000. According to CBS news one Iranian cleric
greeted the help with the following statement: "We hate
the arrogance of the Americans and we are sure that
they haven't come for humanitarian reasons, but for
other things like spying," said Abdullah Irani, a
mullah from Qum, the main center for Shia Muslim
clerics in Iran."


And just try to Google Syrian aid for tsunami victims
... See what you come up with. Zero.


Given the fact that Indonesia is 78% Moslem, and has
lost more than 100,000 people, Sri Lanka is 8% Moslem,
and India is 11% Moslem, one would think that Arab
nations would now show an outpouring of support and
sympathy. After all, isn't that the excuse they always
use for backing the "poor Palestinians" --
that they are fellow Moslems and their solidarity is a
given? And doesn't the West tip-toe around Muslim
sensibilities whether it be the Americans who are
terrified of entering a mosque (even one being used as
a shelter for terrorists), or Parisians who dare to ask
girls not to wear Islamic head coverings to class, or
British, who allow local Imams to give hate sermons in
London mosques? Isn't the Western belief that that to
hurt or offend one Moslem is to hurt and offend them
all? So, how is it, that the great solidarity of the
Islamic world when it comes to their "pride" or their
touchy religious sensibilities doesn't extend to
humanitarian aid when thousands of Moslems lay dead in
the streets? Where are the much touted "Moslem
Benevolent Funds" when you really need them for
something other than guns to kill Israelis and blow up planes?


Makes one think, doesn't it, that perhaps all these
years their concern for the plight of the Palestinian
"refugees" wasn't based on purely humanitarian grounds.
Let's just see how charitable Moslems will be to the
millions of Moslem refugees in Asia now, people who,
unlike the Palestinians, really don't have a roof over
their heads or a way to earn a living. Let's just see.

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942

canada?
oil?
buy it!
that's really funny

heck we're just waiting until you guys fold, come up there and take it!

gf.

geeze-- you canadians ARE slow.



"Overproof" wrote in message
news:t_YEd.83162$dv1.66670@edtnps89...
See what kindness gets you Joe.... a kick in the teeth is what. You guys
should just pull out of there and leave them to their own means. ....
while you're at it.. to hell with the Israel as well.... really... what
have they ever done for you guys anyway?

Oil? Ph-h-h-f-f-t-t.... we got oil in Canada... buy from us. Let's face
it.. you're buying our sick cows at it is.

Until you are prepared to go in to the Arab region and do some sincere and
well intentioned ethnic cleansing you will be fighting a loosing battle
that only serves to bolster the ranks of your enemies and line their
pockets with the cash of sympathizers claiming to be your friends.

It's about time we finished this "Crusade" thing once and for all.....
the world is over-populated anyway. those two faced back-stabbing Camel
Jockeys deserve a one way ticket to the promised land. I'd say it's high
time you punched that ticket and let some real "Oil Men" move in to the
area.... like some Texans for instance.

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Where are the Arabs when Moslems_really_are_Refugees?
By Naomi Ragen


I have been watching with growing amazement how the
Americans are being criticized for the disaster in the
Indian Ocean. First, the UN (Americans are the largest
financial contributor to the UN, with 3 billion dollars
in 2003 alone) called America "stingy." Then President
Bush, who made a policy statement 72 hours after the
disaster, while Kofi Anan was still on Christmas
vacation, and the Swedes, who had thousands of
citizens feared dead, had
nothing to say. But no one has said a word about Saudi
Arabia's $10 million dollar aid package.


Wow! Considering the billions they have funnelled into
terror groups, that's really big of them.


Almost exactly a year ago, on Jan 1 2004, Americans
also went to Iran to help when an earthquake killed
30,000. According to CBS news one Iranian cleric
greeted the help with the following statement: "We hate
the arrogance of the Americans and we are sure that
they haven't come for humanitarian reasons, but for
other things like spying," said Abdullah Irani, a
mullah from Qum, the main center for Shia Muslim
clerics in Iran."


And just try to Google Syrian aid for tsunami victims
... See what you come up with. Zero.


Given the fact that Indonesia is 78% Moslem, and has
lost more than 100,000 people, Sri Lanka is 8% Moslem,
and India is 11% Moslem, one would think that Arab
nations would now show an outpouring of support and
sympathy. After all, isn't that the excuse they always
use for backing the "poor Palestinians" --
that they are fellow Moslems and their solidarity is a
given? And doesn't the West tip-toe around Muslim
sensibilities whether it be the Americans who are
terrified of entering a mosque (even one being used as
a shelter for terrorists), or Parisians who dare to ask
girls not to wear Islamic head coverings to class, or
British, who allow local Imams to give hate sermons in
London mosques? Isn't the Western belief that that to
hurt or offend one Moslem is to hurt and offend them
all? So, how is it, that the great solidarity of the
Islamic world when it comes to their "pride" or their
touchy religious sensibilities doesn't extend to
humanitarian aid when thousands of Moslems lay dead in
the streets? Where are the much touted "Moslem
Benevolent Funds" when you really need them for
something other than guns to kill Israelis and blow up planes?


Makes one think, doesn't it, that perhaps all these
years their concern for the plight of the Palestinian
"refugees" wasn't based on purely humanitarian grounds.
Let's just see how charitable Moslems will be to the
millions of Moslem refugees in Asia now, people who,
unlike the Palestinians, really don't have a roof over
their heads or a way to earn a living. Let's just see.

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
canada?
oil?
buy it!
that's really funny

heck we're just waiting until you guys fold, come up there and take it!

Most of you don't know where we are and the few that do are terrified of the
sub zero temps experienced throughout the year.


geeze-- you canadians ARE slow.

It's the cold..... it slows time itself.... once you guys come up here you
seem to slow right down as well.

CM




"Overproof" wrote in message
news:t_YEd.83162$dv1.66670@edtnps89...
See what kindness gets you Joe.... a kick in the teeth is what. You guys
should just pull out of there and leave them to their own means. ....
while you're at it.. to hell with the Israel as well.... really... what
have they ever done for you guys anyway?

Oil? Ph-h-h-f-f-t-t.... we got oil in Canada... buy from us. Let's face
it.. you're buying our sick cows at it is.

Until you are prepared to go in to the Arab region and do some sincere
and well intentioned ethnic cleansing you will be fighting a loosing
battle that only serves to bolster the ranks of your enemies and line
their pockets with the cash of sympathizers claiming to be your friends.

It's about time we finished this "Crusade" thing once and for all.....
the world is over-populated anyway. those two faced back-stabbing Camel
Jockeys deserve a one way ticket to the promised land. I'd say it's high
time you punched that ticket and let some real "Oil Men" move in to the
area.... like some Texans for instance.

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Where are the Arabs when Moslems_really_are_Refugees?
By Naomi Ragen


I have been watching with growing amazement how the
Americans are being criticized for the disaster in the
Indian Ocean. First, the UN (Americans are the largest
financial contributor to the UN, with 3 billion dollars
in 2003 alone) called America "stingy." Then President
Bush, who made a policy statement 72 hours after the
disaster, while Kofi Anan was still on Christmas
vacation, and the Swedes, who had thousands of
citizens feared dead, had
nothing to say. But no one has said a word about Saudi
Arabia's $10 million dollar aid package.


Wow! Considering the billions they have funnelled into
terror groups, that's really big of them.


Almost exactly a year ago, on Jan 1 2004, Americans
also went to Iran to help when an earthquake killed
30,000. According to CBS news one Iranian cleric
greeted the help with the following statement: "We hate
the arrogance of the Americans and we are sure that
they haven't come for humanitarian reasons, but for
other things like spying," said Abdullah Irani, a
mullah from Qum, the main center for Shia Muslim
clerics in Iran."


And just try to Google Syrian aid for tsunami victims
... See what you come up with. Zero.


Given the fact that Indonesia is 78% Moslem, and has
lost more than 100,000 people, Sri Lanka is 8% Moslem,
and India is 11% Moslem, one would think that Arab
nations would now show an outpouring of support and
sympathy. After all, isn't that the excuse they always
use for backing the "poor Palestinians" --
that they are fellow Moslems and their solidarity is a
given? And doesn't the West tip-toe around Muslim
sensibilities whether it be the Americans who are
terrified of entering a mosque (even one being used as
a shelter for terrorists), or Parisians who dare to ask
girls not to wear Islamic head coverings to class, or
British, who allow local Imams to give hate sermons in
London mosques? Isn't the Western belief that that to
hurt or offend one Moslem is to hurt and offend them
all? So, how is it, that the great solidarity of the
Islamic world when it comes to their "pride" or their
touchy religious sensibilities doesn't extend to
humanitarian aid when thousands of Moslems lay dead in
the streets? Where are the much touted "Moslem
Benevolent Funds" when you really need them for
something other than guns to kill Israelis and blow up planes?


Makes one think, doesn't it, that perhaps all these
years their concern for the plight of the Palestinian
"refugees" wasn't based on purely humanitarian grounds.
Let's just see how charitable Moslems will be to the
millions of Moslem refugees in Asia now, people who,
unlike the Palestinians, really don't have a roof over
their heads or a way to earn a living. Let's just see.

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942

John Cairns wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942



In short, my thesis is that the threat Osama
bin Laden poses lies in the coherence and consistency of his ideas,
their
precise articulation, and the acts of war he takes to implement them.
That
threat is sharpened by the fact that bin Laden's ideas are grounded
in and
powered by the tenets of Islam, divine guidelines that are completely

familiar to most of the world's billion-plus Muslims and lived by
them on a
daily basis.


What a crock of ****. Bin Laden is a murdering coward hiding in a cave
like the stinking low life ****ball rat turd he is.

It is true many muslims would rather vaporize themself in the name of
islam, than help other muslims IN DISTRESS. His ideals are not grounded
in and powered by the tenets of islam, unless Islam endorses the murder
of 1000's innocent people.

Just like the Germans and japs in WWII, Bin ****ball laden is a
desperate murdering asshole that uses the weakest brainwashed losers he
has in his ranks to pull off a desperate Kamakasi type attack. Leaders
that encourage the people under them to commit suicide are destined to
lose. History will repeat itself.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...

John Cairns wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942



In short, my thesis is that the threat Osama
bin Laden poses lies in the coherence and consistency of his ideas,
their
precise articulation, and the acts of war he takes to implement them.
That
threat is sharpened by the fact that bin Laden's ideas are grounded
in and
powered by the tenets of Islam, divine guidelines that are completely

familiar to most of the world's billion-plus Muslims and lived by
them on a
daily basis.



History will repeat itself.

Joe


That is _precisely_ the point of the book.

John Cairns

well lets see
amtrak is down the street.
2 trains leave every morning for the northern border.
been thinking of hopping on one of them in the next couple of weeks.

been thru ontario, toronto, montreal, quebec.

yeah ok
i don't know anything about canadah

like i said you guys are slow.
blame it on the weather if you want
i don't mind.
the only thing the weather does is slow down the natives and the flow of
crude!
don't worry.......we can deal with that

gf.

Ph-h-h-fttttph!

Why would the USA need oil from Canada or anywhere else in the world
when we have plenty right here????

The best answer is tapping into the wind and solar, I lived off the
grid for several years. The grid finally came to me but I'll be
damned if I'll disable my windmill!

While it takes a little bit more thought it's cheaper in the long
run..... more cost efficient too!

('Course I love my oil sponsored Divident Check!)

We don't need your oil.... but would you please send some more of that
delicious nectar of the Gods that comes in that Purple Felt bag????

Keep your health care system, give me yer WHISKEY!
wink






On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:07:05 GMT, "Overproof"
wrote:

See what kindness gets you Joe.... a kick in the teeth is what. You guys
should just pull out of there and leave them to their own means. .... while
you're at it.. to hell with the Israel as well.... really... what have they
ever done for you guys anyway?

Oil? Ph-h-h-f-f-t-t.... we got oil in Canada... buy from us. Let's face
it.. you're buying our sick cows at it is.

Until you are prepared to go in to the Arab region and do some sincere and
well intentioned ethnic cleansing you will be fighting a loosing battle that
only serves to bolster the ranks of your enemies and line their pockets with
the cash of sympathizers claiming to be your friends.

It's about time we finished this "Crusade" thing once and for all..... the
world is over-populated anyway. those two faced back-stabbing Camel Jockeys
deserve a one way ticket to the promised land. I'd say it's high time you
punched that ticket and let some real "Oil Men" move in to the area....
like some Texans for instance.

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
roups.com...
Where are the Arabs when Moslems_really_are_Refugees?
By Naomi Ragen


I have been watching with growing amazement how the
Americans are being criticized for the disaster in the
Indian Ocean. First, the UN (Americans are the largest
financial contributor to the UN, with 3 billion dollars
in 2003 alone) called America "stingy." Then President
Bush, who made a policy statement 72 hours after the
disaster, while Kofi Anan was still on Christmas
vacation, and the Swedes, who had thousands of
citizens feared dead, had
nothing to say. But no one has said a word about Saudi
Arabia's $10 million dollar aid package.


Wow! Considering the billions they have funnelled into
terror groups, that's really big of them.


Almost exactly a year ago, on Jan 1 2004, Americans
also went to Iran to help when an earthquake killed
30,000. According to CBS news one Iranian cleric
greeted the help with the following statement: "We hate
the arrogance of the Americans and we are sure that
they haven't come for humanitarian reasons, but for
other things like spying," said Abdullah Irani, a
mullah from Qum, the main center for Shia Muslim
clerics in Iran."


And just try to Google Syrian aid for tsunami victims
... See what you come up with. Zero.


Given the fact that Indonesia is 78% Moslem, and has
lost more than 100,000 people, Sri Lanka is 8% Moslem,
and India is 11% Moslem, one would think that Arab
nations would now show an outpouring of support and
sympathy. After all, isn't that the excuse they always
use for backing the "poor Palestinians" --
that they are fellow Moslems and their solidarity is a
given? And doesn't the West tip-toe around Muslim
sensibilities whether it be the Americans who are
terrified of entering a mosque (even one being used as
a shelter for terrorists), or Parisians who dare to ask
girls not to wear Islamic head coverings to class, or
British, who allow local Imams to give hate sermons in
London mosques? Isn't the Western belief that that to
hurt or offend one Moslem is to hurt and offend them
all? So, how is it, that the great solidarity of the
Islamic world when it comes to their "pride" or their
touchy religious sensibilities doesn't extend to
humanitarian aid when thousands of Moslems lay dead in
the streets? Where are the much touted "Moslem
Benevolent Funds" when you really need them for
something other than guns to kill Israelis and blow up planes?


Makes one think, doesn't it, that perhaps all these
years their concern for the plight of the Palestinian
"refugees" wasn't based on purely humanitarian grounds.
Let's just see how charitable Moslems will be to the
millions of Moslem refugees in Asia now, people who,
unlike the Palestinians, really don't have a roof over
their heads or a way to earn a living. Let's just see.

Joe


"We are fighting today for security, for progress,
and for peace, not only for ourselves but for all
men, not only for one generation but for all
generations. We are fighting to cleanse the world
of ancient evils, ancient ills."
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
State of the Union Address - 1942

"Miss Mo'Lissa" wrote
Why would the USA need oil from Canada ....

The best answer is tapping into the wind and solar, ....

Nope, the best answer is nuclear energy. Nuke 'em til they glow then take
the oil !!! (c:

Divident???


"Miss Mo'Lissa" wrote in message ...
('Course I love my oil sponsored Divident Check!)