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A question for the single handers
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
"Rick" wrote in message ... I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! Practice, practice, practice. Only other tip is to come in slowly, put the thing into neutral and coast up to the point where you're ready to put it into reverse to stop the boat. Make sure your propulsion isn't prone to stalling. John Cairns |
First off, what boat and motor/prop set up?
Prop walk? Which way? Use this to your advantage. Ya can use the wind and or current to your advantage. Practice in open water, away from other boats. When backing, you need enough speed for steerage, but not too much that you can't stop in time. Once in the slip, in any cross wind, I quickly tie on a short spring line and leave the motor idle in gear, rev. or forward depending on the wind, to keep the bow off the forward piling. -- Scott Vernon Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_ "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
I generally find that wildly swinging a half full bottle of rum and
screaming "She's Out of Control".. "Clear the Dock!"... works wonders to put a run to the rubber neckers ashore! At this point no matter how badly you screw up... it's way better than what they were expecting! Think out your approach...... Work the wind, know your momentum, have an abort point and use it if the first approach isn't what you want. Everything at dead slow with just enough movement to maintain rudder control. Practice early in the morning or when nobody is around. Get it right and repeat it. When you finally have opportunity do it in front of a crowd it will go flawlessly.... if not grab the rum bottle and start yelling ..... :-) CM "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
Rick wrote: Just plan ahead Rick, I often bring RedCloud in and out single handed. I have a spring line I drop by the end of the slip pier. Toss my fenders.. bow in coasting.... pull the spring thru the proper chock and put it on the cleat. Put the boat idle in forward and take my time tying all the rest of the lines. You can do the same and leave the spring on the boat an toss it to the proper dock cleat ect.. Easy as pie. Joe Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
Rick,
As John C said in his post, practice is what does it. But, if you don't want to be the gawked, practice coming up to a mooring buoy or some other floating object from the same direction and the same manner as how you would dock your boat in the slip. There's really no difference, and it'll build the confidence you'll need. When I'm teaching students aboard our Yamaha 30, I force them to dock under sail (with the engine in neutral as a safety precaution) into the wind (the preferred direction) and with the wind (to give them a real-life example of the difference in the characteristics). Previous to this part of the lesson, we've done a bunch of practicing stopping at a mooring ball and anchoring also without the benefit of engine (not even in neutral). You sort of mentioned it, but I'll make it clearer... don't listen to the "helpful" advice from the people at the dock, and don't toss someone a line unless you know the person knows what they're doing. Many dock mavens don't know anything about how to really do it. As an example, when I dock for lunch at Angel Island during the summer months, I typically have a 30-45 foot boat. Also, I typically back into the slip (for practice and for fun). I know the area... current, wind eccentricities well... so I don't need help, but I'll invariably get someone yokel who just stepped off a stinkpotter giving me advice. I usually just say thanks anyway, but one time I really got a good laugh. As I was backing in, he came out to the end of the dock, beer in hand, and told me to "gun it and I'll grab the line." Jonathan -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
Rick, of course, this is also great advice!!! Thanks Mooron for making me
laugh! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Overproof" wrote in message news:oNCCd.44400$Y72.29642@edtnps91... I generally find that wildly swinging a half full bottle of rum and screaming "She's Out of Control".. "Clear the Dock!"... works wonders to put a run to the rubber neckers ashore! At this point no matter how badly you screw up... it's way better than what they were expecting! |
Yeah, I get that a lot with students unfamiliar with a larger boat. I've
typically cautioned them that they can do a lot of damage if they're going too fast, so they tend to overcompensate and stop the boat short. As we drift, I then as them "Ok, now what do we do? What was your backup plan again? And, if the engine won't start, then what?" -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com wrote in message ... On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:52:40 -0500, Rick wrote: Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! The single biggest mistake I see in new sailors docking is that they go TOO slow during the approach and as a result they lose steerage. BB |
"Dave" wrote Also, unless you're sure you'll have some line handlers, be sure you've put your fenders on the proper side well in advance (establish whether you'll be tying port side or starboard side to by radio) huh? Radio? Who you gonna call, he said he's singlhanding? Scotty |
It's not unheard of to ask for help from the harbor master, boat yard, or
fuel dock personnel. I've moved large boats into the cradle area for hauling, for example, an area with relatively tricky currents and flukey winds. It was nice for both of us that they knew I was coming in single handed. They were happy to standby. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Dave" wrote Also, unless you're sure you'll have some line handlers, be sure you've put your fenders on the proper side well in advance (establish whether you'll be tying port side or starboard side to by radio) huh? Radio? Who you gonna call, he said he's singlhanding? Scotty |
Right. I usually plan everything out well in advance of leaving and
returning. Tides, wind issues, etc., and run through all the things I might need to do if I can't get into the dock on the first try. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com wrote in message ... On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:25:14 -0800, "JG" wrote: Yeah, I get that a lot with students unfamiliar with a larger boat. I've typically cautioned them that they can do a lot of damage if they're going too fast, so they tend to overcompensate and stop the boat short. As we drift, I then as them "Ok, now what do we do? What was your backup plan again? And, if the engine won't start, then what?" That brings up what I really think is the key to single handing. Think ahead! It's all about paying attention and anticipating things. What will I likely need during this sail? Is it somewhere where I can get it without going below and searching for it? Is the anchor lid unlocked? I'm constantly reviewing in my head before I leave the slip and as I sail, and if I'm away from traffic, and sailing along, is there anything that needs prepping while I'm not in a busy situation? If you really practice thinking ahead like this, its effect is almost like adding a 2nd person. BB |
"Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! Best advice I ever got: Neutral is your best gear. Eisboch |
Rick,
I NEED TO SAY; before I go any further. I have to say that I've learned more about docking from my Female crew. With the simplest instruction they became the best docking crew I've seen. I have a up-wind slip and they learned to use the wind on the nose as a brake. They have the knack and patience to really slow the boat down,while maintaining control. That Rick is the secret. Slow!! If you're going slow enough, hitting the dock looks like a good landing. My girls got so good at it they preferred docking without the engine. When I single hand, I make good use of the boat hook. If I'm going to dock up-wind, I douse the Jib ( Love my roller furling). When I make my final tack into my slip and have my bow well into the slip and away from my neighbors boat, I drop the main into the Lazy Jacks , hook the stern line from my permanent docking lines. Go forward to about mid-ship and hook the cleat for my spring lines with the boat hook and pull the boat into docking position. (I said I drop the main but if I'm making to much headway, I leave it up on a loose sheet to use the wind to kill any headway If the wind is from the stern, I furl the main in the Jacks and enter the slip with the jib, furl it, grab the stern docking line with the boat hook and set it on the stern cleat. The wind on the hull will complete the docking. AND; now the story!! My girls were bringing "Pneuma" in and a bunch of Dock Jockeys were gathering on the finger pier. It worried me and a mentioned it to Wendy. She said; "Not to worry, I'll take care of it." As she got the bow in the slip, a smart ass called out; "Can I help?" Wendy said Sure and threw him a line. He caught it with a **** eating grin. Wendy hooked the stern line while the knuckle head haul on the line she threw him. It wasn't connected. He soon had the loose end in his hand with a very puzzled look on his face. About this time Wendy hopped to the dock saying; "Gemme that damn rope! If you don't know what the hell you're doing, don't offer." While his two buddy's were laughing at him, Wendy tied a bowline in the end and threw it to one of the crew with instruction to loop it over the main sail wench and she pull the boat into position to set the rest of the docking lines. We've never used that wench like that before or since, We also have never been bother again by Laughing Boy and his friends Rick, docking is easy. Take your time, have a good boat hook and remember "Ole Thom's Girl" Pussy footing is the way to go' Ole Thom |
What a peabrain!
The best way to avoid dock gawkers is to avoid the dock. Real sailor anchor or moor out. CN "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you
have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate
advice from a Toxic Granny? CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
Because I know what I'm talking about...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate advice from a Toxic Granny? CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
I will admit you know more about docks than I do . . .
I have as little to do with docks as possible. CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Because I know what I'm talking about... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate advice from a Toxic Granny? CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
"Eisboch" wrote Best advice I ever got: Neutral is your best gear. Yeah, neutral works great for backing into a slip. SV |
Keep a boat hook handy.
SV |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I will admit you know more about boats than I do . . . I have as little to do with boats as possible. CN |
On the flip side, when I'm on the dock and see a boat coming in, I
usually ask if they need a hand. About half accept and are grateful. Scotty "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Rick, I NEED TO SAY; before I go any further. I have to say that I've learned more about docking from my Female crew. With the simplest instruction they became the best docking crew I've seen. I have a up-wind slip and they learned to use the wind on the nose as a brake. They have the knack and patience to really slow the boat down,while maintaining control. That Rick is the secret. Slow!! If you're going slow enough, hitting the dock looks like a good landing. My girls got so good at it they preferred docking without the engine. When I single hand, I make good use of the boat hook. If I'm going to dock up-wind, I douse the Jib ( Love my roller furling). When I make my final tack into my slip and have my bow well into the slip and away from my neighbors boat, I drop the main into the Lazy Jacks , hook the stern line from my permanent docking lines. Go forward to about mid-ship and hook the cleat for my spring lines with the boat hook and pull the boat into docking position. (I said I drop the main but if I'm making to much headway, I leave it up on a loose sheet to use the wind to kill any headway If the wind is from the stern, I furl the main in the Jacks and enter the slip with the jib, furl it, grab the stern docking line with the boat hook and set it on the stern cleat. The wind on the hull will complete the docking. AND; now the story!! My girls were bringing "Pneuma" in and a bunch of Dock Jockeys were gathering on the finger pier. It worried me and a mentioned it to Wendy. She said; "Not to worry, I'll take care of it." As she got the bow in the slip, a smart ass called out; "Can I help?" Wendy said Sure and threw him a line. He caught it with a **** eating grin. Wendy hooked the stern line while the knuckle head haul on the line she threw him. It wasn't connected. He soon had the loose end in his hand with a very puzzled look on his face. About this time Wendy hopped to the dock saying; "Gemme that damn rope! If you don't know what the hell you're doing, don't offer." While his two buddy's were laughing at him, Wendy tied a bowline in the end and threw it to one of the crew with instruction to loop it over the main sail wench and she pull the boat into position to set the rest of the docking lines. We've never used that wench like that before or since, We also have never been bother again by Laughing Boy and his friends Rick, docking is easy. Take your time, have a good boat hook and remember "Ole Thom's Girl" Pussy footing is the way to go' Ole Thom |
He finally admited it... thanks for copying the post.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I will admit you know more about boats than I do . . . I have as little to do with boats as possible. CN |
Take a bath once in awhile and maybe they'll let you near one...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I will admit you know more about docks than I do . . . I have as little to do with docks as possible. CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Because I know what I'm talking about... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate advice from a Toxic Granny? CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
I take a sponge bath every night using hot soapy water in the cedar bucket. CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Take a bath once in awhile and maybe they'll let you near one... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I will admit you know more about docks than I do . . . I have as little to do with docks as possible. CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Because I know what I'm talking about... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate advice from a Toxic Granny? CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
If you're coming in single-handed and there is a group of kibitzers
hanging around doing "color commentary," ask them to lend a hand. Put the lazy *******s to some good use. Frank |
There's a good chance that they'll not be of much help. Don't rely on anyone
you don't know. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Frank" wrote in message oups.com... If you're coming in single-handed and there is a group of kibitzers hanging around doing "color commentary," ask them to lend a hand. Put the lazy *******s to some good use. Frank |
"Frank" wrote in message oups.com... If you're coming in single-handed and there is a group of kibitzers hanging around doing "color commentary," ask them to lend a hand. Put the lazy *******s to some good use. Frank When I screw up a docking, I usually tell them that I am just practicing and pull back out again. Eisboch |
well, she does work in a health care facility.
Scout "Capt. Neal®" wrote I will admit you know more about docs than I do . . . |
....
I take a sponge bath every night using hot soapy water in the cedar bucket that I defecated in 20 minutes earlier... CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Take a bath once in awhile and maybe they'll let you near one... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I will admit you know more about docks than I do . . . I have as little to do with docks as possible. CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Because I know what I'm talking about... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate advice from a Toxic Granny? CN "katysails" wrote in message ... Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in position... "Rick" wrote in message ... Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to know how to do this better. I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the learning curve significantly. Thanks! |
If there's a big crowd on the dock, I'll strip naked and keep coming.
That always sends the crowd scrambling for cover (except if Gaynzy's there). Scotty |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... If there's a big crowd on the dock, I'll strip naked and keep coming. That always sends the crowd scrambling for cover (except if Gaynzy's there). Scotty Notice how Scotty thinks about Gaynzy when he gets naked. . . What does that tell you? CN |
Scotti Potti the stalker...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... If there's a big crowd on the dock, I'll strip naked and keep coming. That always sends the crowd scrambling for cover (except if Gaynzy's there). Scotty |
1. Speed - Keep your speed to a minimum to allow for more than one possible
maneuver. 2. Steering - At slow speeds, steering ahead is accomplish with high angles of rudder and short, low rpm kicks of the engine. A kick astern will also give a steering component due to prop walk - learn to use this. 3. If you can rig one line, ashore, that you can easily grab and make fast at some point close to your maneuvering station, learn what effect various maneuvers have on your boat at various angles of this line, to help you come alongside and hold to the dock. 4. Wander around your Marina and watch others dock. Learn from their mistakes and good ideas, and if you see someone who seems to make it look easy, ask them to give you some help with your boat. 5. Always watch for wind and current advantages and/or disadvantages and learn to use them. 6. Take your time, practice ..... boat handling is the art of correcting the boats tendency to do what you don't want it to do, or not do what you do want it to do. Shen |
"Rick" wrote
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? I just ignore them, which is another skill that takes practice. The dock angels I don't mind Maybe they really are angels. Read Ray Bradbury's "The Crowd" Bradbury might endorse a theory that these gawkers are all spirits of lubbers who were killed in dock related accidents. http://www.geocities.com/laxaria/crowd.html vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. would you like to borrow my gaussmeter? Scout |
"Scout" wrote: "Rick" wrote Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? I just ignore them, which is another skill that takes practice. The dock angels I don't mind Maybe they really are angels. Read Ray Bradbury's "The Crowd" Bradbury might endorse a theory that these gawkers are all spirits of lubbers who were killed in dock related accidents. http://www.geocities.com/laxaria/crowd.html We see the same people all the time, every fire scene. They all look like suspects. They look catatonic . . . You could arrest a lot of these people just on looks alone. [3] Sounds like the boatyard crew when we fire up the chiminea! Seahag |
That's one of Bradbury's best...IMHO...
"Scout" wrote in message ... "Rick" wrote Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting a crowd of gawkers? I just ignore them, which is another skill that takes practice. The dock angels I don't mind Maybe they really are angels. Read Ray Bradbury's "The Crowd" Bradbury might endorse a theory that these gawkers are all spirits of lubbers who were killed in dock related accidents. http://www.geocities.com/laxaria/crowd.html vocal contributions only add to the already high tension level. would you like to borrow my gaussmeter? Scout |
Oh oh! Katy just logged on. Here comes the boredom factor . . . CN "katysails" wrote in message ... That's one of Bradbury's best...IMHO... |
How sad...you don't know who Bradbury is, do you?
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Oh oh! Katy just logged on. Here comes the boredom factor . . . CN "katysails" wrote in message ... That's one of Bradbury's best...IMHO... |
Ray Bradbury. Sure I know who he is. I read all his sci-fi books when I was a kid.
You and I have more in common than you may think, Katy dear. CN "katysails" wrote in message ... How sad...you don't know who Bradbury is, do you? "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Oh oh! Katy just logged on. Here comes the boredom factor . . . CN "katysails" wrote in message ... That's one of Bradbury's best...IMHO... |
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