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JG January 4th 05 08:49 PM

Right. I usually plan everything out well in advance of leaving and
returning. Tides, wind issues, etc., and run through all the things I might
need to do if I can't get into the dock on the first try.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:25:14 -0800, "JG" wrote:

Yeah, I get that a lot with students unfamiliar with a larger boat. I've
typically cautioned them that they can do a lot of damage if they're going
too fast, so they tend to overcompensate and stop the boat short. As we
drift, I then as them "Ok, now what do we do? What was your backup plan
again? And, if the engine won't start, then what?"


That brings up what I really think is the key to single handing. Think
ahead! It's all about paying attention and anticipating things. What
will I likely need during this sail? Is it somewhere where I can get
it without going below and searching for it? Is the anchor lid
unlocked? I'm constantly reviewing in my head before I leave the slip
and as I sail, and if I'm away from traffic, and sailing along, is
there anything that needs prepping while I'm not in a busy situation?
If you really practice thinking ahead like this, its effect is almost
like adding a 2nd person.

BB




Eisboch January 4th 05 08:57 PM


"Rick" wrote in message
...
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting
a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal
contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind
being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to
know how to do this better.

I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the
learning curve significantly.

Thanks!


Best advice I ever got:

Neutral is your best gear.

Eisboch


Thom Stewart January 4th 05 10:36 PM

Rick,

I NEED TO SAY; before I go any further. I have to say that I've learned
more about docking from my Female crew. With the simplest instruction
they became the best docking crew I've seen.

I have a up-wind slip and they learned to use the wind on the nose as a
brake. They have the knack and patience to really slow the boat
down,while maintaining control. That Rick is the secret. Slow!! If
you're going slow enough, hitting the dock looks like a good landing.

My girls got so good at it they preferred docking without the engine.

When I single hand, I make good use of the boat hook. If I'm going to
dock up-wind, I douse the Jib ( Love my roller furling). When I make my
final tack into my slip and have my bow well into the slip and away from
my neighbors boat, I drop the main into the Lazy Jacks , hook the stern
line from my permanent docking lines. Go forward to about mid-ship and
hook the cleat for my spring lines with the boat hook and pull the boat
into docking position. (I said I drop the main but if I'm making to much
headway, I leave it up on a loose sheet to use the wind to kill any
headway

If the wind is from the stern, I furl the main in the Jacks and enter
the slip with the jib, furl it, grab the stern docking line with the
boat hook and set it on the stern cleat. The wind on the hull will
complete the docking.

AND; now the story!! My girls were bringing "Pneuma" in and a bunch of
Dock Jockeys were gathering on the finger pier. It worried me and a
mentioned it to Wendy. She said; "Not to worry, I'll take care of it."
As she got the bow in the slip, a smart ass called out; "Can I help?"
Wendy said Sure and threw him a line. He caught it with a **** eating
grin. Wendy hooked the stern line while the knuckle head haul on the
line she threw him. It wasn't connected. He soon had the loose end in
his hand with a very puzzled look on his face. About this time Wendy
hopped to the dock saying; "Gemme that damn rope! If you don't know what
the hell you're doing, don't offer." While his two buddy's were laughing
at him, Wendy tied a bowline in the end and threw it to one of the crew
with instruction to loop it over the main sail wench and she pull the
boat into position to set the rest of the docking lines. We've never
used that wench like that before or since, We also have never been
bother again by Laughing Boy and his friends

Rick, docking is easy. Take your time, have a good boat hook and
remember "Ole Thom's Girl" Pussy footing is the way to go'

Ole Thom


Capt. Neal® January 4th 05 10:57 PM

What a peabrain!

The best way to avoid dock gawkers is to avoid the dock.

Real sailor anchor or moor out.

CN


"Rick" wrote in message ...
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting
a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal
contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind
being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to
know how to do this better.

I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the
learning curve significantly.

Thanks!


katysails January 4th 05 11:32 PM

Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you
have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a
permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have
a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will
not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in
position...

"Rick" wrote in message
...
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting
a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal
contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind
being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to
know how to do this better.

I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the
learning curve significantly.

Thanks!




Capt. Neal® January 4th 05 11:36 PM

What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate
advice from a Toxic Granny?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock you
have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a
permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you have
a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that will
not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat in
position...

"Rick" wrote in message
...
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting
a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal
contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind
being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to
know how to do this better.

I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the
learning curve significantly.

Thanks!




katysails January 5th 05 12:09 AM

Because I know what I'm talking about...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate
advice from a Toxic Granny?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock
you
have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a
permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you
have
a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that
will
not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat
in
position...

"Rick" wrote in message
...
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting
a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal
contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind
being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to
know how to do this better.

I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the
learning curve significantly.

Thanks!






Capt. Neal® January 5th 05 12:12 AM

I will admit you know more about docks than I do . . .

I have as little to do with docks as possible.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Because I know what I'm talking about...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
What makes you think even a rank novice would appreciate
advice from a Toxic Granny?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Install a midship cleat...that way if you have to jump off on the dock
you
have the boat on its' fulcrum and you won't lose it...also, if it's a
permanent dock you can run a grab line from piling to piling and if you
have
a piling in the middle of the slipway you can rig a v-shaped net that
will
not only keep you from nosing the dock, but will also help keep the boat
in
position...

"Rick" wrote in message
...
Would those of you who single handedly sail your boat give a new
sailor some tips on bringing the boat into the slip without attracting
a crowd of gawkers? The dock angels I don't mind, but the sauced vocal
contributions only add to the already high tension level. I don't mind
being the local entertainment occasionally, but it would be nice to
know how to do this better.

I realize practice makes perfect, but a few tips can speed up the
learning curve significantly.

Thanks!






Scott Vernon January 5th 05 01:02 AM


"Eisboch" wrote

Best advice I ever got:

Neutral is your best gear.



Yeah, neutral works great for backing into a slip.

SV



Scott Vernon January 5th 05 01:03 AM

Keep a boat hook handy.

SV




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