I don't understand all this amateur telescope business.
 

What's the fascination with puny amateur telescopes when
you can go on the web and see pictures from the Hubble?

Why sail a Mac26X when you can sail a Swan?

CN

Why sail a piece of crap Coronado? Oh wait, you don't actually sail.

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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What's the fascination with puny amateur telescopes when
you can go on the web and see pictures from the Hubble?

Why sail a Mac26X when you can sail a Swan?

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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What's the fascination with puny amateur telescopes when
you can go on the web and see pictures from the Hubble?

Good Capt., this is an excellent question. In fact, it is often asked by
people who are completely ignorant of our little Universe.

However, I am confident that you will understand the simple answer


Do you prefer to sail your own vessel ... or would you prefer to sit on the
decks of a large cruise liner?

As a Real Sailor, who understands the sea, you would only gain limited
pleasure from taking a vacation of a cruise ship. On the other hand, I'm
sure that you have often taken enormous satisfaction from your exploits in
your own vessel. You would also understand that someone who claimed to be
an "experienced sailor" after three "cruises" must be a bufoon!!

Viewing the wonders of the Universe with your own eyes is far superior to
looking at the Hubble web page.


Why sail a Mac26X when you can sail a Swan?


Only a bufoon could ask such a stupid question.



Regards


Donal
--

Well spoken and well considered. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

CN


"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
What's the fascination with puny amateur telescopes when
you can go on the web and see pictures from the Hubble?

Good Capt., this is an excellent question. In fact, it is often asked by
people who are completely ignorant of our little Universe.

However, I am confident that you will understand the simple answer


Do you prefer to sail your own vessel ... or would you prefer to sit on the
decks of a large cruise liner?

As a Real Sailor, who understands the sea, you would only gain limited
pleasure from taking a vacation of a cruise ship. On the other hand, I'm
sure that you have often taken enormous satisfaction from your exploits in
your own vessel. You would also understand that someone who claimed to be
an "experienced sailor" after three "cruises" must be a bufoon!!

Viewing the wonders of the Universe with your own eyes is far superior to
looking at the Hubble web page.


Why sail a Mac26X when you can sail a Swan?


Only a bufoon could ask such a stupid question.



Regards


Donal
--

Very good answer Donal, but other are out to find out the truth.
Sagan said "we are all made of star stuff". What he meant by that was
that the chemical elements of which we and everything on Earth are
made, originated in the huge explosions which take place at the end of
a star's life. This explosion is called a supernova, and if it were not
for these explosions, none of the chemical elements heavier than Helium
would exist. There would be, for example, no oxygen or iron, two
elements which are essential to life on earth as we know it... and
steel sailboats.

I use my telescope to :
1) to learn how our Sun will evolve as it grows older
2) to learn how our galaxy will evolve
3) to learn how the universe will evolve

By evolution, I mean, what the fate of these things will be in millions
to billions of years. I hope this helps Capt.

Joe

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

What's the fascination with puny amateur telescopes when
you can go on the web and see pictures from the Hubble?

For starters, about 95% of the comets that eventually enter our visual space
are detected by amateurs, not professionals.

For another reason, gazing upon one of the Messier objects with one's own
eyes offers a far superior degree of satisfaction as opposed to seeing a
much higher resolution photo taken by Hubble.

There are probably another two dozen reasons, if you really want to know.

Max

What type of Telescope did you get Mr. Sails?

"katysails" wrote in message
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The telescope I got him links up with his computer, has tracking
abilities, and is a refractor, so he will able to see out into deep space
rather than just our solar system. He will use it to make lesson plans
and for his own enjoyment.

"katysails" wrote in message

Meade Telestar DS 26somethingorother...

Could that be a NGC-60A? I'm not familiar with a DS 26.

Max

DS 2076AT...had to go read the box...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Meade Telestar DS 26somethingorother...

Could that be a NGC-60A? I'm not familiar with a DS 26.

Max

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Very good answer Donal, but other are out to find out the truth.
Sagan said "we are all made of star stuff". What he meant by that was
that the chemical elements of which we and everything on Earth are
made, originated in the huge explosions which take place at the end of
a star's life. This explosion is called a supernova, and if it were not
for these explosions, none of the chemical elements heavier than Helium
would exist. There would be, for example, no oxygen or iron, two
elements which are essential to life on earth as we know it... and
steel sailboats.

Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions, the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!




I use my telescope to :
1) to learn how our Sun will evolve as it grows older

Bull****!
What's gonna happen to our Sun?


2) to learn how our galaxy will evolve

How will it evolve?

3) to learn how the universe will evolve

It'll get bigger, huh? Perhaps you would tell us about your observations
and the conclusions that you have drawn.



Really Joe, I think that you overestimate your ability to interpret what
your instruments tell you. I bet that you have learned nothing at all
about the universe from your telescope. You could easily prove me wrong by
posting something that we haven't already read on the Intrernet - but I bet
that you can't!




Regards


Donal
--

1. It's going to burn out some day.
2. Expand until it all energy is used then it will collapse upon
itself.
3. I have learned I like star gazing.

And I think Ive found an astroid in an ellipital orbit that will strike
England around 3 PM April the 10th 2063. It's only approx 1.8 mi in
diameter.

What have you learned?
Do you astroproject your physic skills around the universe?

Joe

It was not the supernova that produced the heavy elements. The supernova scattered the elements produced in the red giant star as
the star collapsed in on itself and exploded. Our sun is producing heavy elements in its core as we speak. Being a second generation
star, however, the process may not have advanced to very far at this stage.

I hope this helps.

CN


"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Very good answer Donal, but other are out to find out the truth.
Sagan said "we are all made of star stuff". What he meant by that was
that the chemical elements of which we and everything on Earth are
made, originated in the huge explosions which take place at the end of
a star's life. This explosion is called a supernova, and if it were not
for these explosions, none of the chemical elements heavier than Helium
would exist. There would be, for example, no oxygen or iron, two
elements which are essential to life on earth as we know it... and
steel sailboats.

Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions, the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!




I use my telescope to :
1) to learn how our Sun will evolve as it grows older

Bull****!
What's gonna happen to our Sun?


2) to learn how our galaxy will evolve

How will it evolve?

3) to learn how the universe will evolve

It'll get bigger, huh? Perhaps you would tell us about your observations
and the conclusions that you have drawn.



Really Joe, I think that you overestimate your ability to interpret what
your instruments tell you. I bet that you have learned nothing at all
about the universe from your telescope. You could easily prove me wrong by
posting something that we haven't already read on the Intrernet - but I bet
that you can't!




Regards


Donal
--

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
1. It's going to burn out some day.
2. Expand until it all energy is used then it will collapse upon
itself.
3. I have learned I like star gazing.


I like star gazing too. Let's see now, I like to gaze at Nichole Kidman,
Elizabeth Hurley, Cate Blanchette, Sissy Spacek, Sigourney Weaver,
Elisha Cuthbert, Shania Twain, Cher, Paris Hilton, etc.

CN

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:27:24 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions, the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!


Shh! Yer making sense.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

He makes no sense at all because he's not stating the facts.

The facts are NOBODY knows what happened during the
Big Bang. It's all still theory at this point.

As a matter of fact, Stephen Hawking is now postulating
that the universe is closed and infinite at the same time.
(Try to wrap your inferior cranial contents around that one.)

The so-called Big Bang may only be a part of the space time
continuum and not a beginning as is commonly believed by
laymen and scientists alike.

CN


"Horvath" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:27:24 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions, the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!


Shh! Yer making sense.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Capt. Neal®" wrote
I like star gazing too. Let's see now, I like to gaze at Nichole Kidman,
Elizabeth Hurley, Cate Blanchette, Sissy Spacek, Sigourney Weaver,
Elisha Cuthbert, Shania Twain, Cher, Paris Hilton, etc.

You were doing fine til you mentioned that skank, Paris Hilton.
Scout

"Capt. Neal®" wrote
The facts are NOBODY knows what happened during the
Big Bang. It's all still theory at this point.

According to Carnak, we only know what happened immediately after the Big
Bang ~ the Big Cigarette.
Scout

You have to go along with String Theory to agree with hawkings...it's rather
mind-boggling...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
He makes no sense at all because he's not stating the facts.

The facts are NOBODY knows what happened during the
Big Bang. It's all still theory at this point.

As a matter of fact, Stephen Hawking is now postulating
that the universe is closed and infinite at the same time.
(Try to wrap your inferior cranial contents around that one.)

The so-called Big Bang may only be a part of the space time
continuum and not a beginning as is commonly believed by
laymen and scientists alike.

CN


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:27:24 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions,
the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!


Shh! Yer making sense.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

The facts are NOBODY knows what happened during the
Big Bang. It's all still theory at this point.


It's pretty funny to read mental midget Neal's comments on such things. He
probably has the whole Cosmos collection on DVD and thinks he has a clue!
Anyone want to meet me at Milliway's for dinner? I'll bring Trillian.

RB

Katy, I'm surprised you even know about Hawking and
string theory. You continue to impress. And, I thought
you were just some wannabe pseudo intellectual . . .

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
You have to go along with String Theory to agree with hawkings...it's rather
mind-boggling...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
He makes no sense at all because he's not stating the facts.

The facts are NOBODY knows what happened during the
Big Bang. It's all still theory at this point.

As a matter of fact, Stephen Hawking is now postulating
that the universe is closed and infinite at the same time.
(Try to wrap your inferior cranial contents around that one.)

The so-called Big Bang may only be a part of the space time
continuum and not a beginning as is commonly believed by
laymen and scientists alike.

CN


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:27:24 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions,
the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!


Shh! Yer making sense.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Katy, I'm surprised you even know about Hawking and
string theory. You continue to impress.


Good grief.

RB

"Scout" wrote in message ...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote
I like star gazing too. Let's see now, I like to gaze at Nichole Kidman,
Elizabeth Hurley, Cate Blanchette, Sissy Spacek, Sigourney Weaver,
Elisha Cuthbert, Shania Twain, Cher, Paris Hilton, etc.

You were doing fine til you mentioned that skank, Paris Hilton.
Scout


Ms. Hilton's got the world's most-photographed butt crack. She even
puts plumbers to shame.

But, I will gladly remove Paris from the list and put in her place
Missy Pyle.

CN

I am grateful. Missy Pyle will fill in nicely.
Scout

"Capt. Neal®" wrote
But, I will gladly remove Paris from the list and put in her place
Missy Pyle.

well, duh...my husband teaches science...do you think we never talk about
things? Get a partner, Neal. Life would be ever so much more interesting
for you.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Katy, I'm surprised you even know about Hawking and
string theory. You continue to impress. And, I thought
you were just some wannabe pseudo intellectual . . .

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
You have to go along with String Theory to agree with hawkings...it's
rather
mind-boggling...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
He makes no sense at all because he's not stating the facts.

The facts are NOBODY knows what happened during the
Big Bang. It's all still theory at this point.

As a matter of fact, Stephen Hawking is now postulating
that the universe is closed and infinite at the same time.
(Try to wrap your inferior cranial contents around that one.)

The so-called Big Bang may only be a part of the space time
continuum and not a beginning as is commonly believed by
laymen and scientists alike.

CN


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:27:24 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce
all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all
explosions,
the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!


Shh! Yer making sense.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"katysails" wrote in message ...
well, duh...my husband teaches science...do you think we never talk about
things? Get a partner, Neal. Life would be ever so much more interesting
for you.

I'm working on getting a partner. (or haven't you noticed?)
I think I've finally matured enough to appreciate one.

It would help if you'd stop trying to frighten her off by
dredging things up out of my sordid past.

CN

Don't have any need for a new boat just yet. The one I
sail is superb. It would have been able to finish that
Hobart race where so many bigger vessels could not
cope. I would have been able to hug the coast even
closer than Nicorette and had a smooth and fast
ride. They bragged about going 13 knots in six knots
of wind. Hah! Impossible. They need to check their
knot log. Even a Hobie can't make 13 knots in six
knots of wind.

CN

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:14:34 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

I'm working on getting a partner. (or haven't you noticed?)
I think I've finally matured enough to appreciate one.

Isn't there a wealth of retirement villages in Florida?
Maybe if you went there as a volunteer you'd meet a rich old granny
who could buy you a new boat.

It would help if you'd stop trying to frighten her off by
dredging things up out of my sordid past.

CN



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

You'd really use USENET to find someone? Well, that's pretty sad in
itself...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
well, duh...my husband teaches science...do you think we never talk about
things? Get a partner, Neal. Life would be ever so much more
interesting
for you.

I'm working on getting a partner. (or haven't you noticed?)
I think I've finally matured enough to appreciate one.

It would help if you'd stop trying to frighten her off by
dredging things up out of my sordid past.

CN

Crap'n Neal® wrote:
...I would have been able to hug the coast even
closer than Nicorette and had a smooth and fast
ride.

In what, your bicycle?

.. They bragged about going 13 knots in six knots
of wind. Hah! Impossible.

Nope, it's fully possible.

... They need to check their
knot log. Even a Hobie can't make 13 knots in six
knots of wind.

Do you think that a Hobie is the fastest possible sailing machine? Which
one, the 33?

I beat Hobie 16s in the Johnson 18, sometimes without the spinnaker.

DSK

Why not find a mate on the Usenet? There are some intelligent people
who use enjoy the Usenet. (Then again, there some real dummies aka
BinaryBillious).

The problem the dummies have is separating reality from fiction.
The dummies provide the grist for the mill and we intelligentsia
do the milling.

It is not overly difficult for one miller to recognize another.

LP and I are millers. Turns out we have a lot in common as
far as our likes and principles. I find myself strongly attracted
to her. I don't really understand why you feel a need to butt
in. Once, I was attracted to you but you're married and just
to big a hypocrite and one of those 'better than thou" Christian.

Hypocrisy is a big turn-off for me.

Katy, you could be a miller if you got your act together
but you haven't quite grasped the difference between fact
and fiction and puppet and real life. Has the entire concept
of Tadpole's Internet Opera escaped you. Theatre of the
mind, girl. But, that assumes one has a mind. . .

Keep working on it. You may yet succeed.

CN



"katysails" wrote in message ...
You'd really use USENET to find someone? Well, that's pretty sad in
itself...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
well, duh...my husband teaches science...do you think we never talk about
things? Get a partner, Neal. Life would be ever so much more
interesting
for you.

I'm working on getting a partner. (or haven't you noticed?)
I think I've finally matured enough to appreciate one.

It would help if you'd stop trying to frighten her off by
dredging things up out of my sordid past.

CN

"DSK" wrote in message ...
I beat Hobie 16s in the Johnson 18, sometimes without the spinnaker.

DSK


Then, that's a pretty fast trawler you have there Douggies!

LP and I are millers. Turns out we have a lot in common as
far as our likes and principles.

I wouldn't think so....she doesn't seem like a pedopjile to me. If that is
the "fiction" you speak of, what type of person invents that sort of fantasy
and publishes it? So, to my way of thinking, you can either admit that yes,
you did those things; or you can admit that it was all stories...very bad
stories. You can't have it both ways.

I find myself strongly attracted
to her. I don't really understand why you feel a need to butt

USENET...you make it public, you suffer the consequenvces. If I were her
and was serious, I would have asked you to take it offline immediately. You
obviously like the exibitionsit quality of the game.

in. Once, I was attracted to you but you're married and just
to big a hypocrite and one of those 'better than thou" Christian.

Nope. Not better than anyone. I just try to live ny a moral code and when
that is "interupted" by people who's code is lacking by the standards of
civilized society, I just say so.

Hypocrisy is a big turn-off for me.

So, inventing fantasy lides for yourself and pretending to be something or
someone you aren't isn't hyposcrisy?


Katy, you could be a miller if you got your act together

Don't need to be a miller...I am myself. No suberterfuge....take me as I am
or leave me alone...I have no desire to fictionalize myself...

but you haven't quite grasped the difference between fact
and fiction and puppet and real life.

Oh, I most definitely have. You just haven't caught on yet.

Has the entire concept
of Tadpole's Internet Opera escaped you.

Hardly...I think it has escaped you though...






"katysails" wrote in message
...
You'd really use USENET to find someone? Well, that's pretty sad in
itself...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
well, duh...my husband teaches science...do you think we never talk
about
things? Get a partner, Neal. Life would be ever so much more
interesting
for you.

I'm working on getting a partner. (or haven't you noticed?)
I think I've finally matured enough to appreciate one.

It would help if you'd stop trying to frighten her off by
dredging things up out of my sordid past.

CN

It's not actually the explosion that creates the heavier elements, it's the
process of nuclear fusion that takes place over the lifetime of the star
that does it. The explosion just scatters the bits about for re-assembly
into can openers, dogs and human beings elsewhere.

--
Kevin
"Donal" wrote in message
...


Don't you find it strange that a little supernova is able to produce all
these elements? After all, the great big grandaddy of all explosions,
the
Big Bang, managed to produce only two elements!!!!

I beat Hobie 16s in the Johnson 18, sometimes without the spinnaker.


Crap'n Neal® wrote:
Then, that's a pretty fast trawler you have there Douggies!

Do trawlers have spinnakers now?

DSK

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:05:27 -0600, "walsh57" wrote
this crap:

It's not actually the explosion that creates the heavier elements, it's the
process of nuclear fusion that takes place over the lifetime of the star
that does it. The explosion just scatters the bits about for re-assembly
into can openers, dogs and human beings elsewhere.


That's bull****.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:07:28 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:

I beat Hobie 16s in the Johnson 18, sometimes without the spinnaker.


Crap'n Neal® wrote:
Then, that's a pretty fast trawler you have there Douggies!

Do trawlers have spinnakers now?


He's talking about the iron spinnaker.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!