If you are serious about buying a 30 something boat at the budget of an etap
,better look some place else....
i recently was looking to buy and amongst the various boats was a 27 etap
(for the £15000 i had to give ).
These are not boats for sea these are seriously dangerous crap.in my
opinion.too crambed even though the one i saw didnt have any equipment
except the VHF,all thin like paper and you get a dingy feeling on it.
Try looking for a 70s 80s swedish boat ,unknown if possible,they know how to
make and maintain boats.
i got mine ,a B31 1978 made for less than 12000 and it is a seious sailing
boat ,GRP,with 180 iron keel,3.6 tons all together but most of them go
around the world a couple of times before they are sold.mine just came from
a tril around the world and i plan to take her for another....and all for
12000 and a bit of searching.....good luck man .and look away from the etap
trap......or bavaria.you need serious boats not looking good but thin paper
ones that will let you down where you need them the most (not in the marina)
m

I think this is the boat "Gema" is referring to.
http://scanboat.com/uk/BoatSaleAdver...agsnr=04S79952

g'Luk
Didereuax

"Gema" wrote in
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If you are serious about buying a 30 something boat at the budget of
an etap ,better look some place else....
i recently was looking to buy and amongst the various boats was a 27
etap (for the £15000 i had to give ).
These are not boats for sea these are seriously dangerous crap.in my
opinion.too crambed even though the one i saw didnt have any equipment
except the VHF,all thin like paper and you get a dingy feeling on it.
Try looking for a 70s 80s swedish boat ,unknown if possible,they know
how to make and maintain boats.
i got mine ,a B31 1978 made for less than 12000 and it is a seious



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¨ If you are serious about buying a 30 something boat at the budget of an etap
¨ ,better look some place else....
¨ i recently was looking to buy and amongst the various boats was a 27 etap
¨ (for the £15000 i had to give ).
¨ These are not boats for sea these are seriously dangerous crap.in my
¨ opinion.too crambed even though the one i saw didnt have any equipment
¨ except the VHF,all thin like paper and you get a dingy feeling on it.

here you can find 2 etap 30i like new with equipment and price aprox. from
builders
http://www.botenbank.nl/

a unsinkable boat is bad for you ?
a condensation free boat is bad for you ?

¨ Try looking for a 70s 80s swedish boat ,unknown if possible,they know how to
¨ make and maintain boats.
¨ i got mine ,a B31 1978 made for less than 12000 and it is a seious sailing
¨ boat ,GRP,with 180 iron keel,3.6 tons all together but most of them go
¨ around the world a couple of times before they are sold.mine just came from
¨ a tril around the world and i plan to take her for another....and all for
¨ 12000 and a bit of searching.....good luck man .and look away from the etap
¨ trap......or bavaria.you need serious boats not looking good but thin paper
¨ ones that will let you down where you need them the most (not in the marina)
¨ m

of course for a old boat like yours i don't pay more than 12k :-)
and how mach money are you spending is adaptations & repairs ? 5k ? 10k ? 20k ?