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John Cairns December 21st 04 02:44 AM

Now this is sailing-and racing!
 
http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements

John Cairns



DSK December 21st 04 12:06 PM

OzOne wrote:
Nah, this is
http://tinyurl.com/6clxq
Quote: 'Still got 40 knots of wind, and 40 foot seas, but we've gybed
- it was a big one! But feel much better now heading north of east
away from this system, not a great angle but its the right thing to
do. We are still being thrown around, the sea is very confused. Every
few minutes my heart ends up in my mouth as I feel the boat suspended
above a wave trough...then we come crashing down. At night it is
something else....?'


Is there a way to plot to plot the weather on the same map with the
boats? I'm curious why the ones further west are headed south... diving
into the system? They're already going a lot faster ( 14 kt vs 9 )

I will sincerely tip my hat to anybody for gybing one of those boats in
40 knot winds.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


DSK December 21st 04 09:47 PM

I will sincerely tip my hat to anybody for gybing one of those boats in
40 knot winds.



OzOne wrote:
It's actually not all that hard, you need to be quick, very quick, and
commited.
You pick a wave, the bigger the better then start surfing it, cranking
in the main as you go, then turn her thru and let the main out as you
go.


Could you program the autopilot to do an S-gybe? That'd help, although
the timing would still be critical.

It's gotta be quick because you'll need to set up for the trough and
back of the next wave because you are definately going faster than it.

I cannot imagine doing it single handed!
The thought sends shivers up my spine!


The stakes are a lot higher than gybing other boats, that's for sure.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


DSK December 21st 04 10:12 PM

Could you program the autopilot to do an S-gybe? That'd help, although
the timing would still be critical.



OzOne wrote:
I wouldn't think so.
As the bow passes facing directly down the wavefront, you need to
start pulling against the tendency to round back up and do a surfers
flickout over the top of the wave.
Again the timing and above all feel is critical here.
I couldn't see an AP doing it.


Now that you mention it, I don't think so either. Helm pressure is not
constant among other things... you'd need a *very* smart autopilot to do
it. Plus (and this is what I was thinking earlier) the timing of the
turn with the pull & release of the mainsheet is not a constant thing
either... at times the main just *won't* go over until long after you
think it should, and the helmsman has to be able to respond accordingly.



The stakes are a lot higher than gybing other boats, that's for sure.



My guess is that single handed, they just pick the biggest wave they
can, surf to build up as much speed as possible to reduce the load on
the gear, then turn her thru and pray that the speed stays high to
protect the rig.
(shudder)


Shudder, hell!!

Now you've got me curious... how DO they gybe these things? I bet they
turn quick enough that you could do a North River gybe *if* you can time
it right with the waves.

Personally, I'd think seriously about just hauling the main down in it's
gear until there was only ten feet or so showing, and then putting it
over by hand and hoisting again. Lot of hard work though.

DSK


Wally December 21st 04 10:35 PM

John Cairns wrote:

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements


Looks like Ellen MacArthur is going to be catching them soon. :-)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



DSK December 21st 04 10:38 PM

OzOne wrote:
What's a Nth River gybe? Never heard the term.


It's a variation of chicken gybing.. turn very quickly from DDW to just
above beam reach on the new tack, the main comes over hard but doesn't
come up against the sheet or the rig, just luffs on the new side. Then
quickly bear away to new course. You can do it while surfing, but of
course the risk is getting caught by the crest while turning.


Multis, particularly big tris, don't turn quickly but instead "carve"
their way thru what becomes a turn.
They sink down on the outside ama which is the lowside one as you go
past directly down the wave so heel can be quite a shock and the wave
cannot have too steep a face.


Yeah, you don't want to bury the bow either! One thing I dislike about
multis is the very large loads they generate on the rig. Going fast
downwind helps.





Personally, I'd think seriously about just hauling the main down in it's
gear until there was only ten feet or so showing, and then putting it
over by hand and hoisting again. Lot of hard work though.



Yeah, but then you need to turn completely around both to drop and
hoist.


Not necessarily. There are a bunch of rigs that you can pull the sail
down in it's lazyjacks... obviously not if it's draped across two or
three spreaders though...


In that case, you might just as well granny.


In 40 knot winds, yes. In 40 foot waves, I'm not so sure!

I remember getting tossed over the boom into the sail, tacking once in
about 40 knots... although the waves were not 40 feet they were pretty
high & steep. The helmsman sharply turned us right into a crest and the
combination roll, pitch, plus a big surge of water coming over the rail,
flung crew all over the place.

DSK


Nav December 21st 04 10:41 PM



DSK wrote:
Could you program the autopilot to do an S-gybe? That'd help,
although the timing would still be critical.




OzOne wrote:

I wouldn't think so.
As the bow passes facing directly down the wavefront, you need to
start pulling against the tendency to round back up and do a surfers
flickout over the top of the wave.
Again the timing and above all feel is critical here.
I couldn't see an AP doing it.



Now that you mention it, I don't think so either. Helm pressure is not
constant among other things... you'd need a *very* smart autopilot to do
it. Plus (and this is what I was thinking earlier) the timing of the
turn with the pull & release of the mainsheet is not a constant thing
either... at times the main just *won't* go over until long after you
think it should, and the helmsman has to be able to respond accordingly.



The stakes are a lot higher than gybing other boats, that's for sure.




My guess is that single handed, they just pick the biggest wave they
can, surf to build up as much speed as possible to reduce the load on
the gear, then turn her thru and pray that the speed stays high to
protect the rig.
(shudder)



Shudder, hell!!

Now you've got me curious... how DO they gybe these things? I bet they
turn quick enough that you could do a North River gybe *if* you can time
it right with the waves.

Personally, I'd think seriously about just hauling the main down in it's
gear until there was only ten feet or so showing, and then putting it
over by hand and hoisting again. Lot of hard work though.


Good lord.

Cheers


Nav December 21st 04 10:45 PM



DSK wrote:

OzOne wrote:

What's a Nth River gybe? Never heard the term.



It's a variation of chicken gybing.. turn very quickly from DDW to just
above beam reach on the new tack, the main comes over hard but doesn't
come up against the sheet or the rig, just luffs on the new side. Then
quickly bear away to new course. You can do it while surfing, but of
course the risk is getting caught by the crest while turning.


"You" can do it? I'd say it's a very bad idea in a big sea.

Cheers


Capt. Neal® December 22nd 04 02:30 AM

The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message ...
John Cairns wrote:

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements


Looks like Ellen MacArthur is going to be catching them soon. :-)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



katysails December 22nd 04 02:38 AM

And just what is she supposed to be pretending to be? She's certainly more
of a sailor than any of us on this group...and she's more woman than you'll
ever be or know or think of...Jealousy rears it's ugly head again,
Neal....you just can't stand it when a woman proves herself to be better
than you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
John Cairns wrote:

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements


Looks like Ellen MacArthur is going to be catching them soon. :-)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk





DSK December 22nd 04 02:48 AM

It's a variation of chicken gybing.. turn very quickly from DDW to just
above beam reach on the new tack, the main comes over hard but doesn't
come up against the sheet or the rig, just luffs on the new side. Then
quickly bear away to new course. You can do it while surfing, but of
course the risk is getting caught by the crest while turning.



OzOne wrote:
Yikes!
You can have that all to yourself!


Okay... maybe I'll patent it and start collecting licensing fees ;)

It works very well, the faster the boat the better.



flung crew all over the place.



Oh Goody!
Did he keep his job?


heh heh
he was one of the co-owners, as was I... it came up in discussions about
who was going to drive!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Neal® December 22nd 04 02:49 AM

Better at what?

I'd have to check between *her* legs personally before
I'd be fool enough to believe she's a woman.

Take a good look at that kisser. It wouldn't surprise me if
*she* has to shave.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
And just what is she supposed to be pretending to be? She's certainly more
of a sailor than any of us on this group...and she's more woman than you'll
ever be or know or think of...Jealousy rears it's ugly head again,
Neal....you just can't stand it when a woman proves herself to be better
than you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
John Cairns wrote:

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements

Looks like Ellen MacArthur is going to be catching them soon. :-)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk






katysails December 22nd 04 02:53 AM

She's not asking you for a date, so why do you care? Your preference in
women is not everyone's preference....that does not negate her abilities as
a sailor....Be a man..admit you're jealous....

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Better at what?

I'd have to check between *her* legs personally before
I'd be fool enough to believe she's a woman.

Take a good look at that kisser. It wouldn't surprise me if
*she* has to shave.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
And just what is she supposed to be pretending to be? She's certainly
more
of a sailor than any of us on this group...and she's more woman than
you'll
ever be or know or think of...Jealousy rears it's ugly head again,
Neal....you just can't stand it when a woman proves herself to be better
than you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
John Cairns wrote:

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements

Looks like Ellen MacArthur is going to be catching them soon. :-)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk








John Cairns December 22nd 04 03:01 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Better at what?

I'd have to check between *her* legs personally before
I'd be fool enough to believe she's a woman.

Take a good look at that kisser. It wouldn't surprise me if
*she* has to shave.

CN


Must you gay up every thread?

John Cairns


"katysails" wrote in message
...
And just what is she supposed to be pretending to be? She's certainly
more
of a sailor than any of us on this group...and she's more woman than
you'll
ever be or know or think of...Jealousy rears it's ugly head again,
Neal....you just can't stand it when a woman proves herself to be better
than you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
John Cairns wrote:

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/uk/classements

Looks like Ellen MacArthur is going to be catching them soon. :-)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk








Capt. Neal® December 22nd 04 03:09 AM

Ellen is in way over her head.

Ellen'll capsize and be out of the race.

I hope Ellen doesn't go getting *herself* killed.

That any man here actually believes *she* has the skill and
endurance to beat the record pretty much proves you are
all delusional.

I can see a good use for my Voodoo doll. Ellen is going down!

CN

CN

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:30:19 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


Cappy, maybe you could read this


WHY IS THIS RECORD SO EXCEPTIONAL:
1800+ people have reached the summit of Everest... 450+ people have
been in space... 12 astronauts have stepped on the moon... 6 solo
sailors have attempted to race around the globe NON-STOP on MULTIHULLS
(the fastest and most extreme boats to traverse the oceans)... Only 1
succeeded to go the distance non-stop and set a new world record...

Francis Joyon, current solo round the world record holder, set off on
22.11.03 and finished 72 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes and 22 seconds
later on 3.2.04 to set a new world record. This is the time MacArthur
has to beat.

Click here for further information on Sailing Speed Records
http://www.sailspeedrecords.com and here for information on Ellen's
campaign http://www.teamellen.com



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



katysails December 22nd 04 04:41 AM

Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil does...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Ellen is in way over her head.

Ellen'll capsize and be out of the race.

I hope Ellen doesn't go getting *herself* killed.

That any man here actually believes *she* has the skill and
endurance to beat the record pretty much proves you are
all delusional.

I can see a good use for my Voodoo doll. Ellen is going down!

CN

CN

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:30:19 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

The only thing that pretender is capable of catching is a cold.

CN


Cappy, maybe you could read this


WHY IS THIS RECORD SO EXCEPTIONAL:
1800+ people have reached the summit of Everest... 450+ people have
been in space... 12 astronauts have stepped on the moon... 6 solo
sailors have attempted to race around the globe NON-STOP on MULTIHULLS
(the fastest and most extreme boats to traverse the oceans)... Only 1
succeeded to go the distance non-stop and set a new world record...

Francis Joyon, current solo round the world record holder, set off on
22.11.03 and finished 72 days, 22 hours, 54 minutes and 22 seconds
later on 3.2.04 to set a new world record. This is the time MacArthur
has to beat.

Click here for further information on Sailing Speed Records
http://www.sailspeedrecords.com and here for information on Ellen's
campaign http://www.teamellen.com



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





DSK December 22nd 04 02:16 PM

OzOne wrote:
It's a bugger when that happens.
I co-owned my first Etchells and the guy thought he was a genius
because his uncle was one of Oz best sailors, tactitians and
navigators, but unfortunately he was hamfisted.


Co-owning can be nice, it cuts the cost... although this particular boat
was still pretty expensive to campaign... and it's easier to come up
with regular crew. We had 5 very enthusiastic regulars, 3 good drivers,
1 learner, and this guy. He was actually very enthusiastic and not so
much stuck on himself as he was forgetful.

One of the keys (IMHO) to becoming a good sailor is to realize that no
race is ever sailed perfectly, there is always more to learn, and that
there are impending mistakes lurking every step of the way.

I know one certain cure for your hamfisted friend. Tie the tiller to
center with shock cord! I sailed with a German youth who was a great
natural skipper... not so much on tactics but I've never seen anybody
who could make a boat go faster... and he barely moved the tiller at
all, except when roll-tacking. It was an education to watch him.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Neal® December 22nd 04 06:12 PM


I was just kidding. I don't have to put a hex on poor little Ellen.

Why?

She's in way over her head and will do herself in by pushing
it too hard. That's what's she's done in the past; that's what
she will do again. You shall see. I am rarely wrong about such
things.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil does...



Wally December 22nd 04 06:25 PM

katysails wrote:

Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil
does...


A good point, well made, Katy. I wondered how long his shiny new
goody-two-shoes image would last...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Wally December 22nd 04 06:27 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote:

She's in way over her head and will do herself in by pushing
it too hard. That's what's she's done in the past; that's what
she will do again. You shall see. I am rarely wrong about such
things.


So, did you know that your boom was going to snap when the breeze puffed up
a bit?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Capt. Neal® December 22nd 04 06:30 PM

Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that. You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message ...
katysails wrote:

Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil
does...


A good point, well made, Katy. I wondered how long his shiny new
goody-two-shoes image would last...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Wally December 22nd 04 06:38 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that.


Forget what?


You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.


You need to avail yourself of the facts - he's starting thread after thread
of (quite obsessive) stuff about you. All about you. Every last bit of it -
nary a gay lame in the direction of Horvath to be seen.

I did try to encourage him to better himself, to raise himself from the mire
and at least aspire to being, if not actually become, a bottom-feeder.
However, he was having none of it, preferring to hang around with you
instead


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Capt. Neal® December 22nd 04 06:44 PM

I don't see any of his posts other than snippets others include
in their replies to him. He resides in my bozo bin and will
stay there as long as he continues to be a total psychotic
stalker.

I thought I saw a second hand post where Gaynz was
sucking up to you. I could be wrong though because I
don't pay that much attention to the perverted little
creep.

As long as he continues to be preoccupied with me, it
proves he has lost. Unfortunately he will NEVER get
over the fact that I swatted him like a fly and everybody
knows it and is laughing at his impotent reactions.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message ...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that.


Forget what?


You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.


You need to avail yourself of the facts - he's starting thread after thread
of (quite obsessive) stuff about you. All about you. Every last bit of it -
nary a gay lame in the direction of Horvath to be seen.

I did try to encourage him to better himself, to raise himself from the mire
and at least aspire to being, if not actually become, a bottom-feeder.
However, he was having none of it, preferring to hang around with you
instead


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk




Wally December 22nd 04 06:56 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote:

I thought I saw a second hand post where Gaynz was
sucking up to you. I could be wrong though because I
don't pay that much attention to the perverted little
creep.


News to me. About the only thing he's ever said to me was that he didn't
want to rise from the mire - hardly sooking up to me, is it?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



JG December 22nd 04 07:08 PM

Neal, the closet gay... sorry Neal, you're a lot of things, but you're not a
woman.

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"j" ganz @@
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that. You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:

Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil
does...


A good point, well made, Katy. I wondered how long his shiny new
goody-two-shoes image would last...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk





JG December 22nd 04 07:09 PM

??

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"j" ganz @@
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"Wally" wrote in message
...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that.


Forget what?


You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.


You need to avail yourself of the facts - he's starting thread after
thread
of (quite obsessive) stuff about you. All about you. Every last bit of
it -
nary a gay lame in the direction of Horvath to be seen.

I did try to encourage him to better himself, to raise himself from the
mire
and at least aspire to being, if not actually become, a bottom-feeder.
However, he was having none of it, preferring to hang around with you
instead


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk





JG December 22nd 04 07:09 PM

Neal's a liar... nothing new.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I don't see any of his posts other than snippets others include
in their replies to him. He resides in my bozo bin and will
stay there as long as he continues to be a total psychotic
stalker.

I thought I saw a second hand post where Gaynz was
sucking up to you. I could be wrong though because I
don't pay that much attention to the perverted little
creep.

As long as he continues to be preoccupied with me, it
proves he has lost. Unfortunately he will NEVER get
over the fact that I swatted him like a fly and everybody
knows it and is laughing at his impotent reactions.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that.


Forget what?


You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.


You need to avail yourself of the facts - he's starting thread after
thread
of (quite obsessive) stuff about you. All about you. Every last bit of
it -
nary a gay lame in the direction of Horvath to be seen.

I did try to encourage him to better himself, to raise himself from the
mire
and at least aspire to being, if not actually become, a bottom-feeder.
However, he was having none of it, preferring to hang around with you
instead


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk






JG December 22nd 04 07:17 PM

Wally, I know you prefer living in ****, but for God's sake, open the
window.

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www.sailnow.com

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

I thought I saw a second hand post where Gaynz was
sucking up to you. I could be wrong though because I
don't pay that much attention to the perverted little
creep.


News to me. About the only thing he's ever said to me was that he didn't
want to rise from the mire - hardly sooking up to me, is it?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk





katysails December 22nd 04 10:27 PM

You're usually wrong about most things...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

I was just kidding. I don't have to put a hex on poor little Ellen.

Why?

She's in way over her head and will do herself in by pushing
it too hard. That's what's she's done in the past; that's what
she will do again. You shall see. I am rarely wrong about such
things.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil does...





katysails December 22nd 04 10:29 PM

well ick....stay mean please...groveling is so....yechy...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy but you can forget that. You'll have
to settle for a kiss from Gaynz who seems interested
in you lately.

CN


"Wally" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:

Yep, the newer kinder gentler Neal....uh-huh....evil is as evil
does...


A good point, well made, Katy. I wondered how long his shiny new
goody-two-shoes image would last...


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk





Wally December 22nd 04 11:22 PM

JG wrote:

??


You're the Google-junkie...


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www.wally.myby.co.uk



JG December 23rd 04 01:54 AM

What's your point?

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"Wally" wrote in message
...
JG wrote:

??


You're the Google-junkie...


--
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www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk





Lady Pilot December 23rd 04 09:02 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.


Well, dear Captain, I won't be able to visit you until you burn your voodoo
doll on your cabin walls, per the pictures that you posted.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy


Already being unfaithful, Neal? I haven't even stepped foot on the airplane
and I read this now? Hahahahaaa!

LP (with standards no man can reach)



Capt. Neal® December 23rd 04 07:23 PM


A minor thing like a broken boom does not compare to a capsize.

A capsize happens because of bad judgment on behalf the
helmsman while a broken boom happens because of extended
wear and tear on systems that are decades old and in almost
constant use.

In other words, a mechanical failure is entropy expressing itself.
Contrariwise, a capsize on a multi-hull is more often the doing of
an operator expressing his or her poor judgment or skills.

CN




"Wally" wrote in message ...
Capt. Neal® wrote:

She's in way over her head and will do herself in by pushing
it too hard. That's what's she's done in the past; that's what
she will do again. You shall see. I am rarely wrong about such
things.


So, did you know that your boom was going to snap when the breeze puffed up
a bit?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk




Capt. Neal® December 23rd 04 07:26 PM

Katy, even when I said you are an attractive, intelligent,
likeable, fascinating doyenne?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
You're usually wrong about most things...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

I was just kidding. I don't have to put a hex on poor little Ellen.

Why?

She's in way over her head and will do herself in by pushing
it too hard. That's what's she's done in the past; that's what
she will do again. You shall see. I am rarely wrong about such
things.

CN



Capt. Neal® December 23rd 04 07:44 PM


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:PQvyd.21944$F25.13455@okepread07...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.


Well, dear Captain, I won't be able to visit you until you burn your voodoo
doll on your cabin walls, per the pictures that you posted.



Burn my Voodoo doll? But, it was a gift. The woman who gave it to me
got possessed by some evil entity. Talking to her after she got
possessed was like you see in the movies. Her eyes looked evil and
she actually hissed and drooled and hatred ushered forth from her.
It scared even me trying to find out what was wrong with her and
to suggest she get help.

They admitted her to a mental hospital soon thereafter for a time
but she got out. Then, she almost killed herself with pills but they
found her passed out on the road and pumped her stomach in time.

Sadly, she was found dead at the full moon year or so ago in the
portico of the health dept. building along with a .38. She'd discharged
the gun into the roof of her mouth. The bullet exited the back of
her head.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy


Already being unfaithful, Neal? I haven't even stepped foot on the airplane
and I read this now? Hahahahaaa!


I would never be unfaithful to you, sweetheart.

I was merely attempting to get Katy's prurient interests aroused.
(I think she can use a robust fantasy life since she seems to be
only a domestic being re her relationship to Mr. Sails. Sometimes
a good fantasy can spice up a dormant husband-wife sex life.
To me, Katy sounds frustrated in her postings. I'd like to see
her sweeten up and act more like you. Just trying to help her.
I would never even consider an affair with a married woman.)


LP (with standards no man can reach)


But, there is at least one man who can reach and surpass them . . .

CN


katysails December 23rd 04 10:05 PM

Only half of those are true...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Katy, even when I said you are an attractive, intelligent,
likeable, fascinating doyenne?

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You're usually wrong about most things...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

I was just kidding. I don't have to put a hex on poor little Ellen.

Why?

She's in way over her head and will do herself in by pushing
it too hard. That's what's she's done in the past; that's what
she will do again. You shall see. I am rarely wrong about such
things.

CN





katysails December 23rd 04 10:08 PM

Well, if anyone knows about fantasy lifes, it would certainly be you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:PQvyd.21944$F25.13455@okepread07...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.


Well, dear Captain, I won't be able to visit you until you burn your
voodoo
doll on your cabin walls, per the pictures that you posted.



Burn my Voodoo doll? But, it was a gift. The woman who gave it to me
got possessed by some evil entity. Talking to her after she got
possessed was like you see in the movies. Her eyes looked evil and
she actually hissed and drooled and hatred ushered forth from her.
It scared even me trying to find out what was wrong with her and
to suggest she get help.

They admitted her to a mental hospital soon thereafter for a time
but she got out. Then, she almost killed herself with pills but they
found her passed out on the road and pumped her stomach in time.

Sadly, she was found dead at the full moon year or so ago in the
portico of the health dept. building along with a .38. She'd discharged
the gun into the roof of her mouth. The bullet exited the back of
her head.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy


Already being unfaithful, Neal? I haven't even stepped foot on the
airplane
and I read this now? Hahahahaaa!


I would never be unfaithful to you, sweetheart.

I was merely attempting to get Katy's prurient interests aroused.
(I think she can use a robust fantasy life since she seems to be
only a domestic being re her relationship to Mr. Sails. Sometimes
a good fantasy can spice up a dormant husband-wife sex life.
To me, Katy sounds frustrated in her postings. I'd like to see
her sweeten up and act more like you. Just trying to help her.
I would never even consider an affair with a married woman.)


LP (with standards no man can reach)


But, there is at least one man who can reach and surpass them . . .

CN




Capt. Neal® December 24th 04 01:40 AM



But, Katy, a fantasy life about you is better than real life with most
women. (With the definite exception of LP, that is.)

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Well, if anyone knows about fantasy lifes, it would certainly be you...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:PQvyd.21944$F25.13455@okepread07...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
Hey, I said I was just kidding about the Voodoo.

Well, dear Captain, I won't be able to visit you until you burn your
voodoo
doll on your cabin walls, per the pictures that you posted.



Burn my Voodoo doll? But, it was a gift. The woman who gave it to me
got possessed by some evil entity. Talking to her after she got
possessed was like you see in the movies. Her eyes looked evil and
she actually hissed and drooled and hatred ushered forth from her.
It scared even me trying to find out what was wrong with her and
to suggest she get help.

They admitted her to a mental hospital soon thereafter for a time
but she got out. Then, she almost killed herself with pills but they
found her passed out on the road and pumped her stomach in time.

Sadly, she was found dead at the full moon year or so ago in the
portico of the health dept. building along with a .38. She'd discharged
the gun into the roof of her mouth. The bullet exited the back of
her head.

What do you want from me? I'll kiss and make up
with Katy

Already being unfaithful, Neal? I haven't even stepped foot on the
airplane
and I read this now? Hahahahaaa!


I would never be unfaithful to you, sweetheart.

I was merely attempting to get Katy's prurient interests aroused.
(I think she can use a robust fantasy life since she seems to be
only a domestic being re her relationship to Mr. Sails. Sometimes
a good fantasy can spice up a dormant husband-wife sex life.
To me, Katy sounds frustrated in her postings. I'd like to see
her sweeten up and act more like you. Just trying to help her.
I would never even consider an affair with a married woman.)


LP (with standards no man can reach)


But, there is at least one man who can reach and surpass them . . .

CN





Scott Vernon December 24th 04 01:49 AM

"Lady Pilot" asked....

Neal, what ever happened to that woman you conned into having sex

with you?




"Capt. Neal®" answered....

The woman who gave it to me
got possessed by some evil entity. Talking to her after she got
possessed was like you see in the movies. Her eyes looked evil and
she actually hissed and drooled and hatred ushered forth from her.
It scared even me trying to find out what was wrong with her and
to suggest she get help.

They admitted her to a mental hospital soon thereafter for a time
but she got out. Then, she almost killed herself with pills but they
found her passed out on the road and pumped her stomach in time.

Sadly, she was found dead at the full moon year or so ago in the
portico of the health dept. building along with a .38. She'd

discharged
the gun into the roof of her mouth. The bullet exited the back of
her head.

CN





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