I believe you. I read about the 5200 being tested as stronger.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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contact cement is ready to use in about ten minutes total. 5200 needs to
set
upwards of 7 days.

sail repair tape/cloth works fine and holds for years without stitching.

Yup.. I wasn't thinking for an emergency. 5200 was what I was thinking.

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wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:05:27 -0800, "JG" wrote:

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better
than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

Usually, tape would be used for an emergency repair. You don't really
have
to
wait for it to set, as you would with glue. It's also a lot easier to
apply.
Sails usually don't tear in mild conditions. I have used tape over small
holes
to keep them from getting bigger. Those patches get repaired permanently
in the
off season by the sailmaker. A lot depends on the type and location of
the
damage. For instance, if a seam was coming apart due to thread failure,
I
wouldn't wait very long to have the whole sail inspected, repaired
properly, or
replaced. The tape would just be to get me back to port.

BB

I don't know. I'm trying to find the article.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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That was it... 5200. Obviously not something you can do quickly, but I
heard
it was better than tape for the long term.

how long is long term? I have seen sail repair tape/cloth hold for more
than 5
years. I have used it myself on my own sails for that long without
problem
(the sails plain worn out without the repair tape/cloth giving up).

5200 does work, however, for repairing inflatable dinghies. make certain
you
let it set long enough before inflating.

I saw in rbc where you own a Sailrite machine. How do you like it?
Which model do you have? Do you have the 'electronic control' ? The
heavy flywheel? e-mail me if you want.

Scotty


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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yes, indeed, if I happen to be standing nearby, for that will put
money in
my
pocket. My pocket is much more worthy of your money than your
pocket.
[grin]


Jesus, now he's a sailmaker.....wonder when the book will be
released?

I have been repairing sails/canvas for pin money for several years.
most
people with torn sails/canvas don't have the capability to repair
sails/canvas
themselves.

JG, 5200 is a stronger adhesive than contact cement, but a.) the extra strength
is of no use because the contact cement patch lasts as you wish to use the
sail, and b.) 5200 leaves a serious hard spot in your sail.

Don't worry about it. sail repair tape/cloth works fine and works for years.

I don't know. I'm trying to find the article.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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That was it... 5200. Obviously not something you can do quickly, but I
heard
it was better than tape for the long term.

how long is long term? I have seen sail repair tape/cloth hold for more
than 5
years. I have used it myself on my own sails for that long without
problem
(the sails plain worn out without the repair tape/cloth giving up).

5200 does work, however, for repairing inflatable dinghies. make certain
you
let it set long enough before inflating.

I saw in rbc where you own a Sailrite machine. How do you like it?

It works as advertised. I can easily run upwards of ten layers of Sunbrella
under the foot. Above that, no room under the foot.

Which model do you have?

LSZ-1, the zig-zag model. I also have a Pelican 1550 case to store the machine
in (must remove the motor to store in a 1550 case)

Do you have the 'electronic control' ?

No, I have the older control, what was available at the time.

The
heavy flywheel?

Yes.

btw, I also own a Pfaff 130. The Sailrite is a better machine hands down for
sail/canvas work.

JAXAshby wrote in message
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JG, 5200 is a stronger adhesive than contact cement, but a.) the extra
strength
is of no use because the contact cement patch lasts as you wish to use the
sail, and b.) 5200 leaves a serious hard spot in your sail.

Don't worry about it. sail repair tape/cloth works fine and works for
years.

I have had a roll of sail tape for some years and have never used it so it
is clearly past its best now anyway. But the snag is that the instructions
say that the sail must be dry before using the tape. If you get a torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back in service?

"Edgar" wrote

I have had a roll of sail tape for some years and have never used it
so it
is clearly past its best now anyway. But the snag is that the
instructions
say that the sail must be dry before using the tape. If you get a
torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back in
service?


50% of the time.

SV

Scott Vernon wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote
If you get a
torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back in
service?


50% of the time.

I don't think so. If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock to let it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

I don't think so. If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea
in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock to let
it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

How often would you find a sailmaker while at sea in very bad weather?

I kept he tape ashore for repairing the likes of chair seats etc. On board
my sail repair kit was a large piece of sailcloth, needles, twine and a palm
for urgent repairs, but my sails were serviced by their makers every year
and i never had to use it in any serious manner.

The trick is to have an adequate sail inventory which will allow you
to take the sail below, rinse and dry the effected area, repair and
then put it back into service if required.

Fully agree about the inventory, but as to rinsing and drying the affected
area on board during or after bad conditions i can only say that you have
probably got a better chance of doing this in your climate in Oz than where
i sail.

The great advantage of sail tape, applied to both sides of a tear is
that it will hold the cloth togetherexactly as it should be while it's
stitched thru for a perfect fix either at the time or later when that
sail is no longer in urgent use.

I can see that this could be useful if you can get the tape to stick...

edgar baby, you don't have a clew. you really should go sailing sometime. it
is loads of fun, AND you will learn something about the sport. try it, dood.

From: "Edgar"
Date: 12/20/2004 5:12 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:


I don't think so. If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea
in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock to let
it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

How often would you find a sailmaker while at sea in very bad weather?

I kept he tape ashore for repairing the likes of chair seats etc. On board
my sail repair kit was a large piece of sailcloth, needles, twine and a palm
for urgent repairs, but my sails were serviced by their makers every year
and i never had to use it in any serious manner.

The trick is to have an adequate sail inventory which will allow you
to take the sail below, rinse and dry the effected area, repair and
then put it back into service if required.

Fully agree about the inventory, but as to rinsing and drying the affected
area on board during or after bad conditions i can only say that you have
probably got a better chance of doing this in your climate in Oz than where
i sail.

The great advantage of sail tape, applied to both sides of a tear is
that it will hold the cloth togetherexactly as it should be while it's
stitched thru for a perfect fix either at the time or later when that
sail is no longer in urgent use.

I can see that this could be useful if you can get the tape to stick...