Doug,
I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and
have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an
afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Well duh...who can afford all that diesel?


Maxprop wrote:
A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is
relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement
trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts.
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense
factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the
boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend
on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time
slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial.

I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a
long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year,
making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and
we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now
we're running the heater almost full time...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

That is because you are a discerning woman who appreciates the finer
things in life. A noisy smelly diesel engine on a slow boat is not one
of them eh?

Cheers

katysails wrote:

Doug,
I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and
have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an
afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing...

"DSK" wrote in message
...

Well duh...who can afford all that diesel?

Maxprop wrote:

A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is
relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement
trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts.
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense
factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the
boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend
on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time
slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial.

I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a
long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year,
making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and
we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now
we're running the heater almost full time...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Like I said, I'm not going to run down anyone;'s boat...I know people who
have chartered trawler's and had a great time, but it'sust not for me. I'm
always quite thankful when we make iot throught he channel to lake Michigan
and can turn the blasted thing off....

"Nav" wrote in message
...
That is because you are a discerning woman who appreciates the finer
things in life. A noisy smelly diesel engine on a slow boat is not one of
them eh?

Cheers

katysails wrote:

Doug,
I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice
and have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out
for an afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing...

"DSK" wrote in message
...

Well duh...who can afford all that diesel?

Maxprop wrote:

A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is
relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement
trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts.
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major
expense factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more
(depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly
fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and
taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial.

I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise
a long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this
year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend,
and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because
now we're running the heater almost full time...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Nav" wrote in message

That is because you are a discerning woman who appreciates the finer
things in life. A noisy smelly diesel engine on a slow boat is not one of
them eh?

I find trawlers to be a bit boring for weekend outings. But just about the
most fun I've ever had on one was skippering a CWB 35 with twin Lehmans from
Pen****er to White Lake (about 35nm) in a nor'wester of 30-45kts. with
quartering waves of 8-10'. What a ride. It took a lot of concentration to
keep the damn boat on course, but it was a blast. Never doubted the ability
of the vessel to handle those conditions for a moment. Several of the
passengers lost their breakfast, however.

Max

katysails wrote:
Doug,
I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and
have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an
afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing...

It's not noisy, the engine room is very well insulated. At our normal
running speed, you can tell it's running, but you can also hear a
whisper. Throttling up increases the volume obviously, but it's also
wasteful as it primarily makes more wake. The boat will only go about 8
1/4 which is hardly thrilling, so why push it.

It's fun but it's a different kind of fun than sailing. We enjoy
exploring creeks & lagoons that sailboats can't get into. We also enjoy
going out on cold and/or rainy days when sailing is miserable but the
river is still there to be enjoyed. The upper deck gives a perspective
that you don't see from the deck of a sailboat. Inside the pilothouse
you can see wildlife but they can't see you and it seems the boat itself
doesn't threaten them as much.

I have enjoyed tugboating more than I thought I would, it has been a
hoot cruising and just riding around. I need to seek the mental
adjustment for enjoyment of working on it, though.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

So you enjoy that wildlife which you proceed to pollute out of
existence? You, sir, are totally selfish and irresponsible with
your pollution machine. You disgust me.

CN


"DSK" wrote in message ...
katysails wrote:
Doug,
I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and
have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an
afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing...

It's not noisy, the engine room is very well insulated. At our normal
running speed, you can tell it's running, but you can also hear a
whisper. Throttling up increases the volume obviously, but it's also
wasteful as it primarily makes more wake. The boat will only go about 8
1/4 which is hardly thrilling, so why push it.

It's fun but it's a different kind of fun than sailing. We enjoy
exploring creeks & lagoons that sailboats can't get into. We also enjoy
going out on cold and/or rainy days when sailing is miserable but the
river is still there to be enjoyed. The upper deck gives a perspective
that you don't see from the deck of a sailboat. Inside the pilothouse
you can see wildlife but they can't see you and it seems the boat itself
doesn't threaten them as much.

I have enjoyed tugboating more than I thought I would, it has been a
hoot cruising and just riding around. I need to seek the mental
adjustment for enjoyment of working on it, though.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King