So are you saying they have a limited use parameter or are you saying you
can do the same work on the same level at the same speed with either. I'm
leaning to the latter.


You can work faster with a tablet, and FAR more comfortably. You don't use one,
so you don't know.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
You can work faster with a tablet, and FAR more comfortably. You don't use
one,
so you don't know.

I can't agree with your premise that they are more comfortable ... nor that
they are faster.

I've used tablets Bob...... can you clarify if your claim is that they are
more accurate, or more ergonomic? I bought mine over 8 years ago.... I had
expectations that were not met. I doubt it was the pen and tablet and more
likely the ability of the computer to handle the input, despite having the
latest and best unit available at the time.

When I used the tablet it was for freehand design... on that point they have
an advantage over mice or trackballs. In my experience though... for the
majority of work undertaken in a graphics application.... a good mouse you
are accustomed to is far more of an advantage than a tablet and pen
..
Although the pen is useful in extremely detailed one off masks or freehand
line drawings... most graphics programs allow you to adjust the mask/line
after the primary trace. This sort of makes the pen a little less important.
Another issue I've had and heard of is conflicts and reliability.

I'm not saying they are useless by any means.... just that they have a
narrow field of use in which they excel. They would be no better than a
mouse to anyone doing digital photo editing.... even on a pixel by pixel
basis..... but they are cool.... and I guess to some people it's form over
function.

Have you tried the new Logitech Laser Mouse..... I can seriously recommend
that as a flawless and very accurate device. It operates on any surface and
the control is well beyond anything currently marketed. Unfortunately there
are some issues regarding their use on a Mac.

CM

I've used tablets Bob...... can you clarify if your claim is that they are
more accurate, or more ergonomic? I bought mine over 8 years ago.... I had
expectations that were not met.


8 years ago, Mooron. You also bought your camera 5 years ago.
You've answered your own question.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I've used tablets Bob...... can you clarify if your claim is that they
are
more accurate, or more ergonomic? I bought mine over 8 years ago.... I
had
expectations that were not met.


8 years ago, Mooron. You also bought your camera 5 years ago.
You've answered your own question.

Yeah but everyone I know that has a Tablet unit... still has basically the
same issues with it.

I buy stuff as I need it.... I haven't found a need for another point and
shoot digital... nor for a newer Tablet and pen. My brother bought his
units 2 years ago.... I've used his tablets on occasion... rare occasions. I
don't really see any great improvements of either the tablet or pen except
in style, ergonomics and connectivity related issues. I've not read anything
that states any great improvement on them to date. Maybe you could point me
to the source that would change my viewpoint?

Have you tried the Logitech MX Laser Mouse yet?

CM

Yeah but everyone I know that has a Tablet unit... still has basically the
same issues with it.


Well, I tend to try things out for myself. If you've tried a recent 500 dollar
tablet on a modern system, fine.
If you havent.....

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Yeah but everyone I know that has a Tablet unit... still has basically
the
same issues with it.


Well, I tend to try things out for myself. If you've tried a recent 500
dollar
tablet on a modern system, fine.
If you havent.....

Odd isn't it... the first one I bought was $1400 Cdn. In answer to your
question... I don't know what my brother paid for them but that price seems
reasonable... and yes I tried them on my P4.

As a side note.... it involved a job in which I had to extract a person
from the original background and insert it on an alternate background. It
was a devilish job since the backgrounds for the paste were of different
colours. I had to get the warm reflected tones of an indoor shot under
incandescent lights out of the parka and face and supplant the cooler
reflected blues of the daylight winter scene. I used the pen for the initial
mask outline and detailed mask adjustment on the Wolverine fur trim of the
parka.... I lucked out and it all came together rather well. Nobody who
viewed the final product printed on photostock had any idea it was not a
photo taken at that location. I used iGrafx Image app. to do the work.

CM

Overproof wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Yeah but everyone I know that has a Tablet unit... still has basically
the
same issues with it.


Well, I tend to try things out for myself. If you've tried a recent 500
dollar
tablet on a modern system, fine.
If you havent.....


Odd isn't it... the first one I bought was $1400 Cdn. In answer to your
question... I don't know what my brother paid for them but that price seems
reasonable... and yes I tried them on my P4.


Was the tablet you tried pressure sensitive?

Cheers

Have you tried the Logitech MX Laser Mouse yet?


For what?

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Have you tried the Logitech MX Laser Mouse yet?


For what?

Photo Editing.... and general mousing.

CM

Overproof wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

You can work faster with a tablet, and FAR more comfortably. You don't use
one,
so you don't know.


I can't agree with your premise that they are more comfortable ... nor that
they are faster.

I've used tablets Bob...... can you clarify if your claim is that they are
more accurate, or more ergonomic? I bought mine over 8 years ago.... I had
expectations that were not met. I doubt it was the pen and tablet and more
likely the ability of the computer to handle the input, despite having the
latest and best unit available at the time.

When I used the tablet it was for freehand design... on that point they have
an advantage over mice or trackballs.


Holy backpedal!



I'm not saying they are useless by any means.... just that they have a
narrow field of use in which they excel.

Wow, two backpedal gears!

Cheers