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Bob Crantz December 15th 04 02:31 AM

Bobsprit = idiot in the first degree:

http://www.apogeephoto.com/oct2001/p...ing_baby.shtml

Flash is a real problem with babies. There's the possibility of red eye,
particularly a concern when capturing close-ups of wide-eyed babies when the
flash illuminates the retina. When it comes to baby photography, in general,
using the flash is a "no no." Some camera manufacturers even issue a warning
in their manual that it could even damage the eyes of an infant.

Get that runt Baptized before you do him in!

Amen!

Bob Crantz





"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
and there was a 200W light in
operation, then his pupils would not have been so dilated.


Listen, doctor eyeball, babie's eyes are quite slow to react, not like an
adult's eyes at all. He squeals and laughs when I take pics, because he

likes
the flashes. Like any baby, if something bugs him, he lets us know fast.

RB




John Cairns December 15th 04 02:52 AM


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
Bobsprit = idiot in the first degree:

http://www.apogeephoto.com/oct2001/p...ing_baby.shtml

Flash is a real problem with babies. There's the possibility of red eye,
particularly a concern when capturing close-ups of wide-eyed babies when
the
flash illuminates the retina. When it comes to baby photography, in
general,
using the flash is a "no no." Some camera manufacturers even issue a
warning
in their manual that it could even damage the eyes of an infant.

Get that runt Baptized before you do him in!

Amen!

Bob Crantz


But if they blind the little tyke, Bob can take him to his favorite place of
worship and through the power of Jesus, heal him by the laying on of hands,
and use the story to convert all of the hellbound folks here! Now why didn't
you think of that? I think Satan's sneaking into your mind, pray for your
soul, REPENT!!! Get right with the Lord!

Praise the Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Cairns





"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
and there was a 200W light in
operation, then his pupils would not have been so dilated.


Listen, doctor eyeball, babie's eyes are quite slow to react, not like an
adult's eyes at all. He squeals and laughs when I take pics, because he

likes
the flashes. Like any baby, if something bugs him, he lets us know fast.

RB






Overproof December 15th 04 03:05 AM


wrote in message A free copy of photoshop?
I SERIOUSLY doubt it's the full version. Meanwhile,
automated redeye repair does not do a very good job except for "snapshot"
quality. In a closeup portrait, it would be VERY noticable. Figures that
Moron
would think that Photoshop's redeye presets would do more than a very
crude job.


Presets... Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa.... what kind of an IDIOT are you Bill-Bob?

CM




Overproof December 15th 04 03:05 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
it would be VERY noticable. Figures that Moron
would think that Photoshop's redeye presets would do more than a very
crude
job.

100% correct. For close up work you have to retouch manually. I also have
Paintshop for that stuff, which I prefer for some pics. Red-eye fix is
fine for
4X6 though.


Paintshop.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!! Idiot!


CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:07 AM


"John Cairns" wrote in message
I have several copies of PhotoShop, including a full version, along with
Corel PhotoPaint, full version, couldn't tell you if any of the bundled
versions are complete as I rarely use them, I take perfect pics right out
of the box :)


As do most people with a clue...... which Bob obviously does not have.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:08 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message

I don't see any cameras that come with full photoshop. Maybe one does, but
certainly nothing I've seen. Elements is a popular free-bee with cameras
and
even higher end photoprinters.
My D70 came with neither.


Stop it already Bob... you are sounding more ridiculous with every post!

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:19 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
Not full photoshop. Usually just Elements, which is now up to 3.0. Good
program
that's fine for most folks.


Like how would you know??

You don't have a clue about graphics programs!

Wanna butt heads about it Bob?

This should be a lot of fun.....

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:27 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Photoshop.... Bob..... don't be silly... he couldn't figure out a palette
let alone pixel edit and masks.

I use Photoshop CS (full version) of course along with Nikon-View to
decode raw
images. Neat Image is used to correct higher ISOs.
Mooron blows it again!


Bwahhahahahahahahaaaa.... what a dolt!

Photoshop ...full version... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaa

You really don't have a clue do you Bob!??

Here's a hint... if you had the full version... why would yu use
Nikon-View???

Because your an IDIOT! .... and you don't have the full version... you
couldn't work the full version... you wouldn't understand the full
version....

CM




Overproof December 15th 04 03:28 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Ha Ha Ha.... dear me... Bob walks through a gallery


You ought to try it sometime. You might not end up getting slapped around
here
as much!


I'm still waiting for the slap of your lace glove there Bobby!

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:38 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
But try not to tempt fate by bragging on him too much.

The Lord works in mysterious ways . . .

I'm really not bragging...just kidding about it because it upsets Scotty
Potti
and Mooron. You can't fault me for that.


Bob... you are wasting your time and effort... I have never said a negative
word about your child. He is an innocent and you have a great gift in your
son. Raise him well... but buddy... that ain't gonna have any impact on my
taking your sorry ass to task at every opportunity.... and that's just
because you earned the right!

Just remember... I'm only pickin' on Ya ... cause I like Ya! Relax and
remember you have much more important things to attend to than this media of
high pressure steam offlet.

I'm havin' fun... hope you are as well....

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:40 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You will cause permanent damage to the young lad's eyesight if you take
too
many photos like that.


Ahhh...another expert!!!
1) the flash is not pointed at him. It's wireless and out of his eyeline.
2) The room is bright (200 watts overhead), but he just had his eyes
closed.
The D70 is so damn fast, I got him just as he spotted the lens of the
camera.


Seriously Bob... how do you find that Nikon? I'm looking at buying a new
camera.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:42 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
HA! Lots of people much older than Thomas like to watch the little blue
light of a welder.


Don't be silly. There is no way Suzanne is going to stop her welding with
little Thomas in the same room.


Mig Welding is she?

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 03:44 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
RB


Don't use the flash closeup Bubbles.


It wasn't. It's an SB800 flash, wireless, and fired by the D70 in
commander
mode.


That has the Anti Red Eye Mode ?

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 04:15 AM


"John Cairns" wrote in message
But if they blind the little tyke, Bob can take him to his favorite place
of worship and through the power of Jesus, heal him by the laying on of
hands, and use the story to convert all of the hellbound folks here! Now
why didn't you think of that? I think Satan's sneaking into your mind,
pray for your soul, REPENT!!! Get right with the Lord!

Praise the Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Holy Mackeral John... you almost had me converted with that last speil!.....

CM



Bobsprit December 15th 04 04:20 AM

Seriously Bob... how do you find that Nikon? I'm looking at buying a new
camera.


Actually, it's quite nice. It's rather large. I find the auto focus system
amazing and manual is also there. Pics are quite sharp with the 18-70 kit lens
and sharper still with primes. I think a lot of people could be very happy with
the kit lens alone. D70 works best out of the auto modes. Viewfinder is not the
brightest, but just fine. There is no vertical grip available. Your old Nikon
lenses will work, but may be manual only...no big deal. ISO performance is very
good...this was taken at ISO 500.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/water444.jpg

I really can't say enough good things about the D70. Even the metering is well
done. No shutter lag. Great raw mode and so on. Quite a deal. There is also the
more expensive Canon 20D, with 8mp, but I prefer the D70. The Canon's Cmos
sensor is probably superior when used correctly, but the Canon's kit lens isn't
great.
Feel free to ask more questions....oh, the D70's inherent FL mag is 1.5, so a
50mm lens becomes a 75mm.

RB

Bobsprit December 15th 04 04:40 AM

I'm havin' fun... hope you are as well....



Easy there, ole buddy. You know I'm having fun. BTW, I don't know if a D70 is a
great camera for use aboard. I'd go with a good small P&S, like my little
Pentax Optio. Dispite it's small size, it took this pic (5MP)......

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/sendbaby2.jpg

Again, the Optio is smaller than a credit card. Sells here for 315.00 and
there's even an underwater housing available for it!

RB

Bobsprit December 15th 04 04:43 AM

My D70 came with neither.

Stop it already Bob... you are sounding more ridiculous with every post!

Mooron, you don't even know what ships with what. You have an F4!!! What
software shipped with it???

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit December 15th 04 04:45 AM

Paintshop for that stuff, which I prefer for some pics. Red-eye fix is
fine for
4X6 though.


Paintshop.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!! Idiot!

If you have a 3D pen & tablet and actually have color spotone experience,
paintshop works fine.

RB

Bobsprit December 15th 04 05:05 AM

Here's a hint... if you had the full version... why would yu use
Nikon-View???


Mooron, I feel bad for you. At each turn you get exposed.
Here's a newsflash. Photoshop CS, PSLE and Elements 3.0 CAN'T READ the NIKON
NEF RAW files without the plugin that downloads with NIKON VIEW. Period.

SLABAMMMMMMM!!! BWAHAHAHAHA! CRUNCH!!!!! OH, THE HUMANITY!!!!

RB

Overproof December 15th 04 04:27 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Paintshop for that stuff, which I prefer for some pics. Red-eye fix is
fine for
4X6 though.


Paintshop.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!! Idiot!

If you have a 3D pen & tablet and actually have color spotone experience,
paintshop works fine.


Pen and tablet??? where do you get these lame ideas.... that stuff is 10
years old.
Spotone.... you mean the industry standard of Pantone?

A photo edit suite provided with every camera software works on red-eye
Bob... it's for people who don't know how to take a picture properly.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 04:29 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
My D70 came with neither.


Stop it already Bob... you are sounding more ridiculous with every
post!

Mooron, you don't even know what ships with what. You have an F4!!! What
software shipped with it???


It's an SLR Bob... it doesn't use software. My Kodak DC290 arrived with all
kinds of software.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 04:32 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Here's a hint... if you had the full version... why would yu use
Nikon-View???


Mooron, I feel bad for you. At each turn you get exposed.
Here's a newsflash. Photoshop CS, PSLE and Elements 3.0 CAN'T READ the
NIKON
NEF RAW files without the plugin that downloads with NIKON VIEW. Period.

SLABAMMMMMMM!!! BWAHAHAHAHA! CRUNCH!!!!! OH, THE HUMANITY!!!!


Relax Bob... you'll strain an artery... I said why would you use Nikon
View if you had a full blown version of Photoshop? I said nothing regarding
a requirement for a plug-in available on the Nikon Software..... and the
internet.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 04:43 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I'm havin' fun... hope you are as well....



Easy there, ole buddy. You know I'm having fun. BTW, I don't know if a D70
is a
great camera for use aboard. I'd go with a good small P&S, like my little
Pentax Optio. Dispite it's small size, it took this pic (5MP)......

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/sendbaby2.jpg

Again, the Optio is smaller than a credit card. Sells here for 315.00 and
there's even an underwater housing available for it!


Not much into the smaller digitals.... what I'm waiting for is Nikon to get
off their friggin' arses and get back to making topline cameras again. They
had a great one years ago... can't recall the name... the price tag was
$10K.... I think they are coming out with a new one in week or so as
well.... but again the stupid proprietary format crap I think....

I've got like over a dozen Nikon Lenses and Flash equipment.... I use it as
a hobby but have been hired on many occasions. My brother's graphic firm
uses my equipment for their professional photo shoots..... seems the pros
like the F4 much better than the F5... I do not know why. I do have a data
back that allows a wide variety of functions... like printing the shot info
between the shots on the negative. Auto tracking and focus triggered shot
abilities.... I can set it up over a gopher hole and when the gopher pops
his head out into the focus range preset... it will snap a photo
automatically... or 6 of them at different exposures. It's a really neat
system.

CM




Overproof December 15th 04 04:49 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Feel free to ask more questions....oh, the D70's inherent FL mag is 1.5,
so a
50mm lens becomes a 75mm.


Damned.... that'll screw up my 17mm Fisheye... but would be a boost to my
500mm Cat.

I'm waiting to see the reviews on the Nikon D2X....

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 04:51 PM

http://www.nikondigitalusa.com/main.html?page=d2x

Looks like a possible candidate...

CM



Bobsprit December 15th 04 05:15 PM

I said why would you use Nikon
View if you had a full blown version of Photoshop?


You said that having NV PROVED I don't have full Photoshop!!!!! You didn't KNOW
that it's REQUIRED because you continue to blow useless hot air!!!

WHoooooo HHoooooo!!! STOMP!

RB

Overproof December 15th 04 05:24 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
that's fine for most folks.


Like how would you know??


How would I know? Do you know the diff between a comercial/pro grade
editing
tool and consumer grade?
I guess not. Please explain to us all why Elements 3.0 ISN'T fine for most
people!!!!

We're waiting!


I've never used Elements 3.0.... there are a plethora of graphics
programs... some with proprietary formats... some that do a tenth the stuff
that Photoshop can do at 1/3 the price.

Photoshop as with all graphics apps is entirely based on your familiarity
and expertise with the program. Many people can do basic stuff with
AutoCAD.... but it takes a Pro to do the real stuff required on complex
site plans and 3D presentations. It's the same with Photoshop.... I know how
many applications for work my brother gets... I also am aware that 3/4 of
them don't have sufficient knowledge to be engaged in professional work with
this app. Raster and vector based graphics are a complex thing... not suited
to the general public.

Are you familiar with FLASH???

CM



Bobsprit December 15th 04 05:25 PM

It's an SLR Bob... it doesn't use software. My Kodak DC290 arrived with all
kinds of software.


And full PS? Yeah! Sure it did!!!!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Overproof December 15th 04 05:29 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Spotone.... you mean the industry standard of Pantone?

No, spotone was a color and B&W retouch system using fine brushes and
inks. I
used to use the system when I worked at Finely Studio doing large format
still
work.


I used airbrush..... for neg work it was Rubylith.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 05:32 PM

I had one years ago... my brother has several.... they are limited in their
spectrum of use.

Your link is to a gift site Bob.... no mention of a tablet on that page.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Pen and tablet??? where do you get these lame ideas.... that stuff is
10
years old.


Good lord. They are used for retouching, even in post production video
salons.
STANDARD equip. for most people I know who use Photoshop seriously. I
don't own
one presently...but I borrow one from a friend at times.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=WAI29X12P&is=

REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=234412

This one works better than ANY mouse. Pricey, but fantastic control. Try
one
before you inject more footwear between your lips!

RB




Overproof December 15th 04 05:34 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's an SLR Bob... it doesn't use software. My Kodak DC290 arrived with
all
kinds of software.


And full PS? Yeah! Sure it did!!!!

Bwahahahaha!


Full PS???? what are you talkin' about?

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 05:35 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Relax Bob... you'll strain an artery... I said why would you use Nikon
View if you had a full blown version of Photoshop?

NOPE!! You are SOOO Busted. You said WHY WOULD I NEED NIKON VIEW if I had
full
PS. You don't even know that PS doesn't support Nikon NEF without
downloading
Nikon View!
Sad attempt at wriggling free!


It's a plug in Bob.... go to the Photshop Plug In site.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 05:37 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I said why would you use Nikon
View if you had a full blown version of Photoshop?


You said that having NV PROVED I don't have full Photoshop!!!!! You didn't
KNOW
that it's REQUIRED because you continue to blow useless hot air!!!

WHoooooo HHoooooo!!! STOMP!


Excitable aren't you..... you don't have a full blown version of Photoshop
Bob.... if a plug -in is required.... then down load it. It's only rocket
science to you.....

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 05:38 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Not much into the smaller digitals.... what I'm waiting for is Nikon to
get
off their friggin' arses and get back to making topline cameras again.


Nikon's D70 is utterly unmatched at it's pricepoint and the new 12MP
camera
looks very impressive. I think they do trail in the P&S market after
owning and
returning the Coolpix 8800.


I never liked the Coolpix... even the name sucked!

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 05:42 PM


wrote in message
Not that long ago, Muldoon was crying poverty. He couldn't even afford
a proper dink for his sailboat, and was towing around a huge double
ended dory instead. In the picture of it he posted, it looked almost
as big as his sailboat.



Some peoples fortunes remain the same... mine improved drastically. I'm
happy to announce I do not owe anyone anything anymore. No Visa, no loan,
house is paid off, car & truck is paid off, I have money in the bank and
work for next year. I am totally debt free. It's a wonderful feeling.

CM



Overproof December 15th 04 05:53 PM

Take your own advise Bill.... say hello to B&H for me..... then find a
tablet on the page Bill!

Good luck!

CM


wrote in message
Good grief! the Computer illiterate Moron can't even figure out that
the link was very long and it wrapped. Click the link, and then copy
and paste the rest of it, numbnuts.

BB

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=WAI29X12P&is=

REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=234412


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Pen and tablet??? where do you get these lame ideas.... that stuff is
10
years old.


Good lord. They are used for retouching, even in post production video
salons.
STANDARD equip. for most people I know who use Photoshop seriously. I
don't own
one presently...but I borrow one from a friend at times.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=WAI29X12P&is=

REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=234412

This one works better than ANY mouse. Pricey, but fantastic control. Try
one
before you inject more footwear between your lips!

RB






Bobsprit December 15th 04 05:55 PM

Excitable aren't you..... you don't have a full blown version of Photoshop
Bob.... if a plug -in is required.... then down load it.


Bwahahahahaha! Sooo busted. Okay, Mooron! I don't have a computer either!

RB

Overproof December 15th 04 05:57 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I guess not. Please explain to us all why Elements 3.0 ISN'T fine for
most
people!!!!

We're waiting!


I've never used Elements 3.0....

Uh...you do realize that Elements is, in many respects, simply a consumer
oriented level version of Photoshop? It does just about anything a
photographer
would need. A pro, submitting for publishing would need more.


So is Corel Draw, Paint Shop Pro, iGraphix Design Suite.... sheesh I could
go on. Most of the basic apps that come with the digitals these days are
fine for basic photo retouching... like the lame sepia tone and red-eye
removal, rotate etc.


CM



Bobsprit December 15th 04 06:06 PM

So is Corel Draw, Paint Shop Pro, iGraphix Design Suite.... sheesh I could
go on.


No, Mooron. Elements was LIFTED lock stock and barrel out of PS. They are both
from Adobe. Adobe essentially created Elements in the wake of PSLE, which had
been a giveaway with many cameras and scanners. Elements is expanded, but
operates just like photoshop, duplicating keystokes and so on.
I have Paintshop pro and it's a different program with it's own learning curve.

RB

Vito December 15th 04 06:35 PM

"DSK" wrote
Do you think God has a sense of humor?


Obviously! AFAIK he pulled the funniest joke in all eternity by conning
Abraham into cutting off the end of his penis --- and the ends of all his
son's penises and all his mensevants' and .... (Gen17:9-14).

That's almost as funny as sending me to look for a septapeutch (c:




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