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Capt. Neal® December 2nd 04 04:52 PM

Nav study guides
 


One of the best sources on the Internet is Captain Neal's
Novice Lessons.

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Scroll to the bottom and click on the Novice Lessons link

CN


"Jcasey22" wrote in message ...
Hey folks, I've been lurking around this group awhile and must say, I get some
great laughs, you guys are crazy(too much time at sea, or too little?) Anyway,
I'm headed back to the UK to attend the UKSA for 17 weeks to gain a yachtmaster
certification, hopefully. I want to have a better understanding of the basics
before I get there, as the Solent is a hell of a place to learn on the run. I
am in need of a good source of info and study guides for navigation, tidal
calculations and other such things. I have a little training in both, so I am
at the point at where I can understand the language and use the tools involed.
I am shelling out a lot of dough for the school as it is, so if I can find
these things on the cheap, it would be great.

Joseph


Martin Baxter December 2nd 04 06:00 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote:


One of the best sources on the Internet is Captain Neal's
Novice Lessons.

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Scroll to the bottom and click on the Novice Lessons link


Neal you never cease to provide us with amusement, your sense of satire is
unparalleled!

Cheers
Marty


Jonathan Ganz December 2nd 04 06:04 PM

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One of the best sources on the Internet is Captain Neal's
Novice Lessons.

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Scroll to the bottom and click on the Novice Lessons link

CN


"Jcasey22" wrote in message ...
Hey folks, I've been lurking around this group awhile and must say, I get some
great laughs, you guys are crazy(too much time at sea, or too little?) Anyway,
I'm headed back to the UK to attend the UKSA for 17 weeks to gain a yachtmaster
certification, hopefully. I want to have a better understanding of the basics
before I get there, as the Solent is a hell of a place to learn on the run. I
am in need of a good source of info and study guides for navigation, tidal
calculations and other such things. I have a little training in both, so I am
at the point at where I can understand the language and use the tools involed.
I am shelling out a lot of dough for the school as it is, so if I can find
these things on the cheap, it would be great.

Joseph



Joseph, Nelly's link is great for a few laughs!

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jcasey22 December 2nd 04 06:30 PM

Captain Neal Sir, I am reading your wonderful site right now and I had to take
a break to tell you how great it is. I first thought it full of jackassery and
I would continue to find self-righteous BS throughout. I read over the
beginning of the Nav section and it proved straightforward and true. I was only
able to get as far as your thoughts of windshield wipers on a sailboat before
braking out in laughter. Great site so far and good work at not only providing
Valuble information but dousing it with opinionated wit. What would we have in
the sailing world if not for purists.....oh yeah, those horrid MacGreggor 26's,
vomit.

Capt. Neal® December 2nd 04 06:40 PM

Thank you kindly, sir. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

CN

"Jcasey22" wrote in message ...
Captain Neal Sir, I am reading your wonderful site right now and I had to take
a break to tell you how great it is. I first thought it full of jackassery and
I would continue to find self-righteous BS throughout. I read over the
beginning of the Nav section and it proved straightforward and true. I was only
able to get as far as your thoughts of windshield wipers on a sailboat before
braking out in laughter. Great site so far and good work at not only providing
Valuble information but dousing it with opinionated wit. What would we have in
the sailing world if not for purists.....oh yeah, those horrid MacGreggor 26's,
vomit.


Jcasey22 December 2nd 04 07:01 PM

I do need to find some formal "lectures in a book," unless, that is, you can
personally provide me with 30 or so route planning exercises and all of the
appropiate charts to go along with them. I don't know if I am explaining this
properly, but let me know if you have an idea.

Joe December 2nd 04 07:59 PM

(Jcasey22) wrote in message ...
Hey folks, I've been lurking around this group awhile and must say, I get some
great laughs, you guys are crazy(too much time at sea, or too little?) Anyway,
I'm headed back to the UK to attend the UKSA for 17 weeks to gain a yachtmaster
certification, hopefully. I want to have a better understanding of the basics
before I get there, as the Solent is a hell of a place to learn on the run. I
am in need of a good source of info and study guides for navigation, tidal
calculations and other such things. I have a little training in both, so I am
at the point at where I can understand the language and use the tools involed.
I am shelling out a lot of dough for the school as it is, so if I can find
these things on the cheap, it would be great.

Joseph



Go to ebay and get a copy of Bowditch The American Pratical Navigator.
You can learn all you need to know. It has a great glossery.

What ever you do......Do not take Donals Advice. He claims to be a
Royal Yachtmaster with Physic Navigation Skills.

He may know of a second hand source of study guides. He lives over
there, so if you meet him it's ok to sail with him unless there is any
fog.

Good Luck and enjoy.

Joe

Scott Vernon December 2nd 04 08:17 PM

The Solent, eh? Watch out for all the cigarette butts in the water, I
hear they can clog your water intakes.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


"Jcasey22" wrote in message
...
Hey folks, I've been lurking around this group awhile and must say,

I get some
great laughs, you guys are crazy(too much time at sea, or too

little?) Anyway,
I'm headed back to the UK to attend the UKSA for 17 weeks to gain a

yachtmaster
certification, hopefully. I want to have a better understanding of

the basics
before I get there, as the Solent is a hell of a place to learn on

the run. I
am in need of a good source of info and study guides for navigation,

tidal
calculations and other such things. I have a little training in

both, so I am
at the point at where I can understand the language and use the

tools involed.
I am shelling out a lot of dough for the school as it is, so if I

can find
these things on the cheap, it would be great.

Joseph




Donal December 2nd 04 11:33 PM


"Jcasey22" wrote in message
...
Hey folks, I've been lurking around this group awhile and must say, I get

some
great laughs, you guys are crazy(too much time at sea, or too little?)

Anyway,
I'm headed back to the UK to attend the UKSA for 17 weeks to gain a

yachtmaster
certification, hopefully. I want to have a better understanding of the

basics
before I get there, as the Solent is a hell of a place to learn on the

run. I
am in need of a good source of info and study guides for navigation, tidal
calculations and other such things. I have a little training in both, so I

am
at the point at where I can understand the language and use the tools

involed.
I am shelling out a lot of dough for the school as it is, so if I can find
these things on the cheap, it would be great.


I notice that you have had a load of useless answers about cigarette butts
and fog.

Only I and the good Capt. Neal are capable of offering helpful advice.


The book that you are looking for is called "An Introduction to Coastal
Navigation - a seaman's guide".
ISBN 0 984254 02 5

Published by:
Morgans Technical Books Ltd

It is available from most chandlers.


Regards


Donal
--




N1EE December 2nd 04 11:49 PM

Welcome Joeseph,

I've used the ASA, US Sailing, and US Power Squadron course books, and
taught sailing using the US Sailing study guides. I like the US Power
Squadron (USPS) Piloting and Advance Piloting the best, but you have
to join to get them and wait for shipment. THE USPS courses cover
topics you won't find elsewhere, like using a sextant horizontally for
circles of position. They might be better for later study after you
have the basics down.

The US Sailing books are easy to find. See the US Sailing web site or
Amazon.com, They have lots of good material in an easy to use format.
Youmight want to start with the Basic Keelboat book and read them
all.

Here is a link to their coastal navigation book. It has some good
chart work problems in it.

http://www.ussailing.org/commercial/...ioncoastal.htm

Give us some feedback on the yachtmaster program, they were the basis
for the ASA and US Sailing programs in the USA. What does it cost?
How long? And quality of the instructors.

One final recommendation. To get your money's worth, chose the best
instructors they have.

Bart Senior


(Jcasey22) wrote

I'm headed back to the UK to attend the UKSA for 17 weeks to gain a yachtmaster
certification, hopefully. I want to have a better understanding of the basics
before I get there, as the Solent is a hell of a place to learn on the run. I
am in need of a good source of info and study guides for navigation, tidal
calculations and other such things. I have a little training in both, so I am
at the point at where I can understand the language and use the tools involed.
I am shelling out a lot of dough for the school as it is, so if I can find
these things on the cheap, it would be great.

Joseph


Martin Baxter December 3rd 04 01:27 PM

Joe wrote:


Go to ebay and get a copy of Bowditch The American Pratical Navigator.


Why on earth go to Ebay, it's available online?

Cheers
Marty


Jcasey22 December 3rd 04 03:55 PM


Here is a link to their coastal navigation book. It has some good
chart work problems in it


Just ordered it, looks to be of some help. This is exactly what I was looking
for. I found Bowditch online and it's stuffed to the gills with info and looks
like a must have refrence.

Give us some feedback on the yachtmaster program,


I can only give some feedback on the UKSA Professional Crew and Skipper
training course. I was there about a year ago but due to a medical problem, I
had to return to the states, which scared the **** out of me because the
tuition was so high. Well it was high for me, being a broke college kid when I
fell in love with sailing, actually it's still high for me, even at the lofty
age of 23. It took three jobs and almost two years to save the $20,000 for
tuition, airfare and "mile building." The tuition covers 8 weeks training at
sea and 9 weeks shore-based training. The instructors are top-notch(even for
Brits), I found the whole school to be flooded with people that love what they
do and it rubs off. You can go here to get all of the info on the school.
http://www.uksa.org/
Thanks for the help on the study guides.
Joe

Joe December 3rd 04 08:26 PM

Martin Baxter wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:


Go to ebay and get a copy of Bowditch The American Pratical Navigator.


Why on earth go to Ebay, it's available online?



He's a student and needs to learn to save money when possiable.
I purchace many things off ebay and have been quite happy.

You can pick up Bowditch vol 1 & 2 around 65.00 dollars on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...824103 6&rd=1

And at most stores I think you will find them around 125 for the set.

If you take your time and shop wisely you could pick up a nice
vintage leather bound ships set.

A sailor should have a bowditch for life and pass it on to his aires.
Mine has been in my family for 3 generations. It is one of my most
treasured items.

Joe


Cheers
Marty


otnmbrd December 3rd 04 11:37 PM

Joe wrote:


A sailor should have a bowditch for life and pass it on to his aires.
Mine has been in my family for 3 generations. It is one of my most
treasured items.

Joe


BG Alas, it's also out of date, information wise .... as is mine and
my American Merchant Seaman's Manual and Merchant Marine Officer's
Handbook, which are also great references.
Course, too, some of the info which is no longer incorporated in the
newer versions, can still be found in the older.....which frequently
comes in handy.

otn

Martin Baxter December 6th 04 05:34 PM

Joe wrote:

Martin Baxter wrote in message ...

Joe wrote:


Go to ebay and get a copy of Bowditch The American Pratical Navigator.


Why on earth go to Ebay, it's available online?




He's a student and needs to learn to save money when possiable.
I purchace many things off ebay and have been quite happy.


Sorry Joe, I guess I didn't include sufficient information in my post, it's available
online for FREE. He can save more money that way than purchasing it on Ebay, 'tho it
might be taking money out of Boobsy's hands!

Cheers
Marty


PWGibbs36 December 7th 04 02:10 AM

Bowditch is available HERE in electronic format.:
http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/pubs/pubs...s.html?rid=187

Hope you find what yer looking for.
-Paul


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