"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.


BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Regards

Donal
--

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.
That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors? Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Same way I cope with the small fraction of the
population of any race smarter than me, of course. I pick their brains
for good ideas.

How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?

PDW

"Well we're all friends now, eh?
Though God knows how ~ the *******s!"
(John Cleese as Basil Fawlty)
Scout

"Peter Wiley" wrote
[snip]
How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors? Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs?

Shrug. Donal likes to play with history, I can play too. I put his
problem down to alternating between CO poisoning from smoking and bad
temper when he tries to quit his disgusting vice, and fails.

PDW

In article
, Scout
wrote:

"Well we're all friends now, eh?
Though God knows how ~ the *******s!"
(John Cleese as Basil Fawlty)
Scout

"Peter Wiley" wrote
[snip]
How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors? Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs?

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.

I admire your courage! If I had your ignorance I'd be afraid to display it
in public.

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would know that the
people who surround me were as oppressed as the Irish were. Coffin boats
sailed from England and Wales, as well as Ireland.

Also, if you knew anything at all about the Internet, then you'd be able to
figure out that I don't occupy a subservient position here.


That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors?

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would realise that most
of the English were as oppressed as the Irish. It wasn't about
nationality - it was about social standing.




Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

..... And you don't live in England because your ancestor was a
criminal??????




I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

You sound superior. You seem to be very intelligent, and I'm Irish.



BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Same way I cope with the small fraction of the
population of any race smarter than me, of course. I pick their brains
for good ideas.

Brilliant answer! You really believe that only a "small fraction" of the
native Australian population could be smarter than you!!!





How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?


I employ them.

What do you do with them?


Regards



Donal
--

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.

I admire your courage! If I had your ignorance I'd be afraid to display it
in public.

Don't be so modest! You've proven many times that ignorance has not
deterred you from posting here.

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would know that the
people who surround me were as oppressed as the Irish were.

I do seem to be missing that bit of history. Can you point me to
reference material showing that the native Irish invaded, conquered and
confiscated most/all of the land comprising England any time in the
last thousand years or so? That they created landholdings, nobility,
built castles and treated the natural resources as their own?

No, I didn't think you could. Therefore my point stands and you're
trying to slide off - again.

Coffin boats
sailed from England and Wales, as well as Ireland.

Also, if you knew anything at all about the Internet, then you'd be able to
figure out that I don't occupy a subservient position here.

Ah, sorry, didn't realise you were the Queen of England posting via a
sockpuppet. My apologies, your Highness. How are your corgies?

That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors?

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would realise that most
of the English were as oppressed as the Irish. It wasn't about
nationality - it was about social standing.

Irrelevant. We also seem to have strayed from the original point, but
that's standard with you it seems. To recap, you seem to think that I
am the possessor of stolen wealth in the form of land in Australia. At
the same time, you are benefiting from the country that oppressed and
exploited your fellow countrymen, but seem to feel no shame. Shrug.

Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

.... And you don't live in England because your ancestor was a
criminal??????

Alas, I can't claim that distinction. Keep guessing. The answer is
amusing.

Can I take your lack of denial to the above as a tacit admission that
perhaps I've hit a little too close to the mark? Pity if so - hypocrisy
is always so interesting to dissect.




I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

You sound superior. You seem to be very intelligent, and I'm Irish.

Keep working on that inferiority complex, lad. Your seemingly innate
racism/ethnic issues could do with some exorcising as well.



BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Same way I cope with the small fraction of the
population of any race smarter than me, of course. I pick their brains
for good ideas.

Brilliant answer! You really believe that only a "small fraction" of the
native Australian population could be smarter than you!!!

No need to limit it to the Australian population, Donal.


How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?


I employ them.

What do you do with them?

The first one I met, I married. That was 29 years ago now. The second
one is the godmother of my 2 daughters. The others - 2 of them I go
sailing with quite regularly. You see, I don't need to establish a
dominant power position (for example, employer-employee) to feel
comfortable in the company of women smarter than myself. I'm sad for
you that you can't say the same.

PDW

"DSK" wrote
Donal wrote:
Quite correct, Neal! Especially in Australia - where the land has all
been
stolen from the (ab)original owners.

Same in America... including South America. Same in much of Europe too,
especially those islands sticking out at the top.

And in Israel .... and the theft is still proceding.

Vito wrote:
And in Israel .... and the theft is still proceding.


Well, let's put it this way- the Jews stole the land of Israel from the
Canaanites... and they're long since vanished. Then the Greeks & Romans
stole the land from them, and then along came the Sassanids and Turks
who stole it yet again, and now the Jews are stealing it back.

You seem to be looking at the situation with a very very narrow
viewpoint. Not likely to solve... or even appreciate the scope...any
problems that way.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Vito wrote:
And in Israel .... and the theft is still proceding.


Well, let's put it this way- the Jews stole the land of Israel from the
Canaanites... and they're long since vanished. Then the Greeks & Romans
stole the land from them, and then along came the Sassanids and Turks
who stole it yet again, and now the Jews are stealing it back.

You seem to be looking at the situation with a very very narrow
viewpoint. Not likely to solve... or even appreciate the scope...any
problems that way.

DSK

Oy, talk about a narrow viewpoint. Ever wonder why you cannot comment or
diasgree without launching an ad hominum attack? Perhaps drugs ...???

Recent DNA studies show that, rather than stealing from the Canaanites, the
Jews were simply Canaanites with a different religion (ie, Moishe is
mythical). Nor have the Canaanites vanished - their descendents, now
converted to Islam and other religions by the folks you mention, plus
indigineous Jews, were called Palistinians by the Brits, et al. There was
no notable "theft" of land until after WW2 - simply different groups taking
charge, often aided by outsiders. Mot of the people living there in, say,
1946 could trace their DNA ancestory to both Sampson and Delilia and cousins
on both sides.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, or rather about 70AD IIRC, Rome tired of koher
pigheadeness, slaughtered the troublemakers and packed the rest into exile
throughout the empire as slaves. Some (most?) of these people kept their
religion but lost their Canaan ethenicity and culture and took on those of
their hosts over the next two millenia. Then along came Hitler, rounded
them up selling their homes and businesses to locals and packed them off to
labor camps and worse where many died. After Germany was defeated the
survivors had no place to go, their homes farms and businesses were now
owned by good Chritians. They Were called Displaced Persons. Again, these
peoples were Europeans.

Having no place to go, but with historial ties to Roman Judea, these
EUROPEANS invaded what had become Palistine and created the Jewish State of
Israel. This required the displacement of the indigineous peoples - a
process still ongoing.

Some call it genocide. Others, including those managing G.Witless, believe
that Gawd created the USA and made it strong so that we could assist this
genocide and protect Israel from interference. Thats why we attacked
Saddam - to defend Israel. They call themselves Neocons and support the
witless one.

Please note that I have disagreed without attacking you personally.

Vito wrote:
Oy, talk about a narrow viewpoint. Ever wonder why you cannot comment or
diasgree without launching an ad hominum attack?

???

Other than to point out that you're wrong, please point to any 'ad
hominem' attacks I've made.


... Perhaps drugs ...???

Not since about 1973... the Sixties ended late for me...



Recent DNA studies show that, rather than stealing from the Canaanites, the
Jews were simply Canaanites with a different religion

Baloney. References, please.


Meanwhile, back at the ranch, or rather about 70AD IIRC, Rome tired of koher
pigheadeness, slaughtered the troublemakers and packed the rest into exile
throughout the empire as slaves.

The Jewish Diaspora was less than 50% of the population. Probably much
less. That leaves a very large percent still there chugging along day to
day.


... Some (most?) of these people kept their
religion but lost their Canaan ethenicity and culture and took on those of
their hosts over the next two millenia. Then along came Hitler

???

No notable event in almost two thousand years? Isn't this leaving out a
good bit?


Having no place to go, but with historial ties to Roman Judea, these
EUROPEANS invaded what had become Palistine and created the Jewish State of
Israel.

Uh huh. If this were the case, then what was the Balfour Doctrine all
about, about twenty years earlier? And why would Balfour, an English
politician, have found it expedient to make any statements on the
subject unless there were a politically (& economically... never forget
the money angle!) significant Zionist movement already under way?


... This required the displacement of the indigineous peoples - a
process still ongoing.

Some call it genocide. Others, including those managing G.Witless, believe
that Gawd created the USA and made it strong so that we could assist this
genocide and protect Israel from interference. Thats why we attacked
Saddam - to defend Israel. They call themselves Neocons and support the
witless one.

Please note that I have disagreed without attacking you personally.

Noted and approved. You're a better man than I. Now all you need are at
least one or two facts.

DSK