In article , Donal
wrote:

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Property and real estate are a waste.

They are only choices for girly-men who, like women,
must have a nest. Phhaaaa! You disgust me more and
more, Oz, with your female traits. A simpering, pacifistic,
dependent, nest-building wimp, you are.

Real men realize that real estate is available for their
use (male use like hunting, fishing and hiding buried
treasure) for free provided a man is bold enough to
just go out and do it. People like who have to own
what God gave us for free are usurpers and cowardly,
hedonistic swine who take and fence off that which
is not intended to be privately owned because you are
too chicken to use what God gave mankind as God
intended it be used.

Real men are nomadic hunters and warriors not some female,
wannabe most concerned with building nests. Faggot!

Quite correct, Neal! Especially in Australia - where the land has all been
stolen from the (ab)original owners.

If I were in Peter's position, I'd keep my mouth shut. There is no honour
in the ownership of stolen goods.

But you never will be in my position, Donal. You're Irish, I recall?

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.


BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Regards

Donal
--

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.
That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors? Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Same way I cope with the small fraction of the
population of any race smarter than me, of course. I pick their brains
for good ideas.

How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?

PDW

"Well we're all friends now, eh?
Though God knows how ~ the *******s!"
(John Cleese as Basil Fawlty)
Scout

"Peter Wiley" wrote
[snip]
How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors? Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs?

Shrug. Donal likes to play with history, I can play too. I put his
problem down to alternating between CO poisoning from smoking and bad
temper when he tries to quit his disgusting vice, and fails.

PDW

In article
, Scout
wrote:

"Well we're all friends now, eh?
Though God knows how ~ the *******s!"
(John Cleese as Basil Fawlty)
Scout

"Peter Wiley" wrote
[snip]
How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors? Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs?

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.

I admire your courage! If I had your ignorance I'd be afraid to display it
in public.

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would know that the
people who surround me were as oppressed as the Irish were. Coffin boats
sailed from England and Wales, as well as Ireland.

Also, if you knew anything at all about the Internet, then you'd be able to
figure out that I don't occupy a subservient position here.


That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors?

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would realise that most
of the English were as oppressed as the Irish. It wasn't about
nationality - it was about social standing.




Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

..... And you don't live in England because your ancestor was a
criminal??????




I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

You sound superior. You seem to be very intelligent, and I'm Irish.



BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Same way I cope with the small fraction of the
population of any race smarter than me, of course. I pick their brains
for good ideas.

Brilliant answer! You really believe that only a "small fraction" of the
native Australian population could be smarter than you!!!





How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?


I employ them.

What do you do with them?


Regards



Donal
--

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.

I admire your courage! If I had your ignorance I'd be afraid to display it
in public.

Don't be so modest! You've proven many times that ignorance has not
deterred you from posting here.

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would know that the
people who surround me were as oppressed as the Irish were.

I do seem to be missing that bit of history. Can you point me to
reference material showing that the native Irish invaded, conquered and
confiscated most/all of the land comprising England any time in the
last thousand years or so? That they created landholdings, nobility,
built castles and treated the natural resources as their own?

No, I didn't think you could. Therefore my point stands and you're
trying to slide off - again.

Coffin boats
sailed from England and Wales, as well as Ireland.

Also, if you knew anything at all about the Internet, then you'd be able to
figure out that I don't occupy a subservient position here.

Ah, sorry, didn't realise you were the Queen of England posting via a
sockpuppet. My apologies, your Highness. How are your corgies?

That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors?

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would realise that most
of the English were as oppressed as the Irish. It wasn't about
nationality - it was about social standing.

Irrelevant. We also seem to have strayed from the original point, but
that's standard with you it seems. To recap, you seem to think that I
am the possessor of stolen wealth in the form of land in Australia. At
the same time, you are benefiting from the country that oppressed and
exploited your fellow countrymen, but seem to feel no shame. Shrug.

Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

.... And you don't live in England because your ancestor was a
criminal??????

Alas, I can't claim that distinction. Keep guessing. The answer is
amusing.

Can I take your lack of denial to the above as a tacit admission that
perhaps I've hit a little too close to the mark? Pity if so - hypocrisy
is always so interesting to dissect.




I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

You sound superior. You seem to be very intelligent, and I'm Irish.

Keep working on that inferiority complex, lad. Your seemingly innate
racism/ethnic issues could do with some exorcising as well.



BTW how do you cope with intelligent ******s?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. Same way I cope with the small fraction of the
population of any race smarter than me, of course. I pick their brains
for good ideas.

Brilliant answer! You really believe that only a "small fraction" of the
native Australian population could be smarter than you!!!

No need to limit it to the Australian population, Donal.


How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?


I employ them.

What do you do with them?

The first one I met, I married. That was 29 years ago now. The second
one is the godmother of my 2 daughters. The others - 2 of them I go
sailing with quite regularly. You see, I don't need to establish a
dominant power position (for example, employer-employee) to feel
comfortable in the company of women smarter than myself. I'm sad for
you that you can't say the same.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.

I admire your courage! If I had your ignorance I'd be afraid to display
it
in public.

Don't be so modest! You've proven many times that ignorance has not
deterred you from posting here.

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would know that the
people who surround me were as oppressed as the Irish were.

I do seem to be missing that bit of history. Can you point me to
reference material showing that the native Irish invaded, conquered and
confiscated most/all of the land comprising England any time in the
last thousand years or so? That they created landholdings, nobility,
built castles and treated the natural resources as their own?

You have purposely misunderstood my statement. The reality is that it was
not the "English" who conquered Ireland. When Ireland was invaded, England
didn't exist.

The invaders were rich men who could maintain armies. One of the worst
periods of land loss was during the Norman invasion. The Normans were
French.





No, I didn't think you could. Therefore my point stands and you're
trying to slide off - again.

Your question is utterly irrelevant. The "English" didn't invade Ireland.



Coffin boats
sailed from England and Wales, as well as Ireland.

Also, if you knew anything at all about the Internet, then you'd be able
to
figure out that I don't occupy a subservient position here.

Ah, sorry, didn't realise you were the Queen of England posting via a
sockpuppet. My apologies, your Highness. How are your corgies?

I'm not subservient to the Queen. Nowadays, nobody is.



That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors?

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would realise that
most
of the English were as oppressed as the Irish. It wasn't about
nationality - it was about social standing.

Irrelevant. We also seem to have strayed from the original point, but
that's standard with you it seems. To recap, you seem to think that I
am the possessor of stolen wealth in the form of land in Australia. At
the same time, you are benefiting from the country that oppressed and
exploited your fellow countrymen, but seem to feel no shame. Shrug.

That is really weird logic. You think that I shouldn't get any benefit from
the English because they benefited from my country???

Don't you think that I deserve some recompense?


Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters
and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

.... And you don't live in England because your ancestor was a
criminal??????

Alas, I can't claim that distinction. Keep guessing. The answer is
amusing.

Go on, entertain us!



Can I take your lack of denial to the above as a tacit admission that
perhaps I've hit a little too close to the mark? Pity if so - hypocrisy
is always so interesting to dissect.

In some ways you are close to the mark.

I was brought up in a very nationalistic environment. However, I also saw
that violence was not the answer. In fact, violence is valid up to a
certain point. Once civil liberties are available to all, then violence
only serves to create more violence.






I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

You sound superior. You seem to be very intelligent, and I'm Irish.

Keep working on that inferiority complex, lad. Your seemingly innate
racism/ethnic issues could do with some exorcising as well.


How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?


I employ them.

What do you do with them?

The first one I met, I married. That was 29 years ago now.



The second
one is the godmother of my 2 daughters. The others - 2 of them I go
sailing with quite regularly. You see, I don't need to establish a
dominant power position (for example, employer-employee) to feel
comfortable in the company of women smarter than myself. I'm sad for
you that you can't say the same.

I agree that you don't need to establish a dominant power position with
women. Some men prefer dominant women. Clearly, you fall into that
category.






Regards


Donal
--

In actuality, the Normans were really Brits who had been previously driven
out of Great Britain to France and then decided to return and drive out the
Saxons, who were originally Germanic...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

But you never will be in my position, Donal.

Correct.


You're Irish, I recall?

Your recollection is correct.

And you're living in England, a refugee from your homeland surrounded
by the very people who opressed your country for hundreds of years.

I admire your courage! If I had your ignorance I'd be afraid to
display
it
in public.

Don't be so modest! You've proven many times that ignorance has not
deterred you from posting here.

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would know that the
people who surround me were as oppressed as the Irish were.

I do seem to be missing that bit of history. Can you point me to
reference material showing that the native Irish invaded, conquered and
confiscated most/all of the land comprising England any time in the
last thousand years or so? That they created landholdings, nobility,
built castles and treated the natural resources as their own?

You have purposely misunderstood my statement. The reality is that it was
not the "English" who conquered Ireland. When Ireland was invaded,
England
didn't exist.

The invaders were rich men who could maintain armies. One of the worst
periods of land loss was during the Norman invasion. The Normans were
French.





No, I didn't think you could. Therefore my point stands and you're
trying to slide off - again.

Your question is utterly irrelevant. The "English" didn't invade Ireland.



Coffin boats
sailed from England and Wales, as well as Ireland.

Also, if you knew anything at all about the Internet, then you'd be
able
to
figure out that I don't occupy a subservient position here.

Ah, sorry, didn't realise you were the Queen of England posting via a
sockpuppet. My apologies, your Highness. How are your corgies?

I'm not subservient to the Queen. Nowadays, nobody is.



That's sad. How do you cope with living and working with your
opressors, those who stole the land from your ancestors?

If you knew anything at all about history, then you would realise that
most
of the English were as oppressed as the Irish. It wasn't about
nationality - it was about social standing.

Irrelevant. We also seem to have strayed from the original point, but
that's standard with you it seems. To recap, you seem to think that I
am the possessor of stolen wealth in the form of land in Australia. At
the same time, you are benefiting from the country that oppressed and
exploited your fellow countrymen, but seem to feel no shame. Shrug.

That is really weird logic. You think that I shouldn't get any benefit
from
the English because they benefited from my country???

Don't you think that I deserve some recompense?


Or were you
one of the Irish who sold their birthright to their English masters
and
became their running dogs? I suppose that might explain why you, as
an
Irishman, doesn't live in Ireland.

.... And you don't live in England because your ancestor was a
criminal??????

Alas, I can't claim that distinction. Keep guessing. The answer is
amusing.

Go on, entertain us!



Can I take your lack of denial to the above as a tacit admission that
perhaps I've hit a little too close to the mark? Pity if so - hypocrisy
is always so interesting to dissect.

In some ways you are close to the mark.

I was brought up in a very nationalistic environment. However, I also
saw
that violence was not the answer. In fact, violence is valid up to a
certain point. Once civil liberties are available to all, then violence
only serves to create more violence.






I should have realised that I was ethnically inferior to you.

Are you? How do you work that out?

You sound superior. You seem to be very intelligent, and I'm Irish.

Keep working on that inferiority complex, lad. Your seemingly innate
racism/ethnic issues could do with some exorcising as well.


How do you cope with women who are more intelligent than you?


I employ them.

What do you do with them?

The first one I met, I married. That was 29 years ago now.



The second
one is the godmother of my 2 daughters. The others - 2 of them I go
sailing with quite regularly. You see, I don't need to establish a
dominant power position (for example, employer-employee) to feel
comfortable in the company of women smarter than myself. I'm sad for
you that you can't say the same.

I agree that you don't need to establish a dominant power position with
women. Some men prefer dominant women. Clearly, you fall into that
category.






Regards


Donal
--

In article , Donal
wrote:

Nothing worth replying to. It's my birthday, it's 24C, the wind is
blowing at 15 knots and one of my staff has given me a fresh lobster to
go with the chilled reisling. I'm off sailing with some of my women
friends.

Ciao. Feel free to have the last word on this thread, I've lost
interest in pursuing red herrings.

PDW