"Capt. Neal®" wrote
The tide has turned. Real sailors can all rejoice and celebrate
the fact that this great country of ours has returned to that
which made it great in the first place - conservative values and
a faith in the Constitution as it was written.

I beg to differ. Our forefathers were Deists, not right wing fanatics.
What we are seeing today is nothing like what our founders did, saw, or
wanted.
Scout

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:45:09 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

"Capt. Neal®" wrote
The tide has turned. Real sailors can all rejoice and celebrate
the fact that this great country of ours has returned to that
which made it great in the first place - conservative values and
a faith in the Constitution as it was written.

I beg to differ. Our forefathers were Deists, not right wing fanatics.

That's bull****. Our founders were Christians, not Deists. Their
Christianity is woven into the Declaration of Independence and the
Constitution.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Capt. Neal®" wrote
The tide has turned. Real sailors can all rejoice and celebrate
the fact that this great country of ours has returned to that
which made it great in the first place - conservative values and
a faith in the Constitution as it was written.

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 10:45:09 GMT, "Scout" wrote:
I beg to differ. Our forefathers were Deists, not right wing fanatics.
Scout

"Horvath" wrote
That's bull****. Our founders were Christians, not Deists. Their
Christianity is woven into the Declaration of Independence and the
Constitution.


You'll figure it out.
http://www.deistnet.com/deismfam.htm
I suggest you start with the Enlightenment and go forward from there.
Scout

"Capt. Neal®" wrote
The tide has turned. Real sailors can all rejoice and celebrate
the fact that this great country of ours has returned to that
which made it great in the first place - conservative values and
a faith in the Constitution as it was written.


That's funny, most of the Founding Fathers described themselves as
liberals.

Scout wrote:
I beg to differ. Our forefathers were Deists, not right wing fanatics.
What we are seeing today is nothing like what our founders did, saw, or
wanted.


Here here.

I find it rather sad that the the Bush Administration, far from
respecting the Constitution as it was written, seems to have no idea
what it means; those few times Constituional principles have come to be
tested, they have been angrily brushed aside.

OTOH if you like having a Vice President that not only directly profits
from a war industry, but tells people who point out the conflict of
interest to go f*** themselves, then you're in good hands. The recent
vote on DeLay's pending indictment shows the "moral values" of current
Republican leadership... I can't help but wonder if this is *really*
what all those red state people voted for.

Sorry for not only being OT but glum... more coffee and back to work...

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote
The tide has turned. Real sailors can all rejoice and celebrate
the fact that this great country of ours has returned to that
which made it great in the first place - conservative values and
a faith in the Constitution as it was written.


That's funny, most of the Founding Fathers described themselves as
liberals.

Scout wrote:
I beg to differ. Our forefathers were Deists, not right wing fanatics.
What we are seeing today is nothing like what our founders did, saw, or
wanted.


Here here.

I find it rather sad that the the Bush Administration, far from respecting
the Constitution as it was written, seems to have no idea what it means;
those few times Constituional principles have come to be tested, they have
been angrily brushed aside.

OTOH if you like having a Vice President that not only directly profits
from a war industry, but tells people who point out the conflict of
interest to go f*** themselves, then you're in good hands. The recent vote
on DeLay's pending indictment shows the "moral values" of current
Republican leadership... I can't help but wonder if this is *really* what
all those red state people voted for.

Sorry for not only being OT but glum... more coffee and back to work...

DSK

Agreed. Our Founding Fathers, were they here today, would be plotting
against the new King George.
Scout