In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 9 Nov 2004 14:51:06 -0800, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Considerably. It shows almost conclusively that people in the blue states
are more likely to have had their kid take a prep course for the SATs or
ACTs.

Is that a bad thing? Seems pretty smart to me...

Jon, must I draw you a picture of everything?

The point is that the underlying assumption of the presentation--that SAT
scores can be used to predict likely scores on an IQ test-- is flawed.

I think you need to draw the picture for yourself. If the parents had
the smarts to put their kid in a prep course, that would be a good
predicter of intelligence. I guess there really are some stupid
lawyers.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

PA is above CO., Does that make me smarter than Gilligan?

SV


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:07:54 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:



Actually, This says it all
http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm
State Avg. IQ 2004
1 Connecticut 113 Kerry
2 Massachusetts 111 Kerry
3 New Jersey 111 Kerry
4 New York 109 Kerry
5 Rhode Island 107 Kerry
6 Hawaii 106 Kerry
7 Maryland 105 Kerry
8 New Hampshire 105 Kerry
9 Illinois 104 Kerry
10 Delaware 103 Kerry
11 Minnesota 102 Kerry
12 Vermont 102 Kerry
13 Washington 102 Kerry
14 California 101 Kerry
15 Pennsylvania 101 Kerry
16 Maine 100 Kerry
17 Virginia 100 Bush
18 Wisconsin 100 Kerry
19 Colorado 99 Bush
20 Iowa 99 Bush
21 Michigan 99 Kerry
22 Nevada 99 Bush
23 Ohio 99 Bush
24 Oregon 99 Kerry
25 Alaska 98 Bush
26 Florida 98 Bush
27 Missouri 98 Bush
28 Kansas 96 Bush
29 Nebraska 95 Bush
30 Arizona 94 Bush
31 Indiana 94 Bush
32 Tennessee 94 Bush
33 North Carolina 93 Bush
34 West Virginia 93 Bush
35 Arkansas 92 Bush
36 Georgia 92 Bush
37 Kentucky 92 Bush
38 New Mexico 92 Bush
39 North Dakota 92 Bush
40 Texas 92 Bush
41 Alabama 90 Bush
42 Louisiana 90 Bush
43 Montana 90 Bush
44 Oklahoma 90 Bush
45 South Dakota 90 Bush
46 South Carolina 89 Bush
47 Wyoming 89 Bush
48 Idaho 87 Bush
49 Utah 87 Bush
50 Mississippi 85 Bush

This is pretty amazing bull****, considering that less than 2% of
Americans
undergo any sort of testing to ascertain intelligence. Waaaay back
when, US
school kids were given Stanford Binet or Wechsler IQ assessment
scores via
testing, but that practice stopped eons ago, mostly because such
scores were
grossly inaccurate or even prejudicial. So where did this info
originate
(above). In some liberal's wildest imagination, no doubt.

State some facts, Oz, not garbage.

This help?
http://sq.4mg.com/IQ-States.htm


Max


OR
Do you want the survey by state on the percentage of people with
college degrees....guess what.....it comes to the same
conclusion.....those states with less degrees voted republican.

http://www.ginandtacos.com/education.jpg


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
PA is above CO., Does that make me smarter than Gilligan?

No one is as smartass as Gilligan.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 9 Nov 2004 15:57:42 -0800, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

I think you need to draw the picture for yourself. If the parents had
the smarts to put their kid in a prep course, that would be a good
predicter of intelligence.

Not really. It would correlate strongly with how much money the parents had,
and how plugged in they were to the college admission process (which
probably varies considerably from region to region). It would correlate much
less strongly with the parents' IQ.

So, income and understanding of college admission processes and
procedures are not correlated to raw IQ? I guess those highly
intelligent guys in prison are a lot more savvy than the lawyers,
doctors, and high tech professionals. Of course, in your case, I
couldn't agree more. g


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Scott Vernon wrote:
PA is above CO., Does that make me smarter than Gilligan?

Not really. The fact that Gilligan plays with sock puppets and you don't
makes you smarter than him!

DSK

be quiet dummy, NC was 33rd.



"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scott Vernon wrote:
PA is above CO., Does that make me smarter than Gilligan?

Not really. The fact that Gilligan plays with sock puppets and you
don't
makes you smarter than him!

DSK

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 9 Nov 2004 16:46:01 -0800, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Not really. It would correlate strongly with how much money the parents had,
and how plugged in they were to the college admission process (which
probably varies considerably from region to region). It would correlate much
less strongly with the parents' IQ.

So, income and understanding of college admission processes and
procedures are not correlated to raw IQ?

As usual, a total non-sequitur. Why am I not surprised?

A better question is why you so stupid.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

PA is above CO., Does that make me smarter than Gilligan?

Nope, but it makes you a bigger idiot than the Skipper.

RB

Max,

It is possible for the Mind to store millions of bits of information
but still be uneducated;----I've forgot who made the statement but it
couldn't be truer when you look at the Oz post. If you print out the
http at the beginning of his line of BS you will see that the origial
had been retracked and that was in 2000.

Ole Thom

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

they find any
intelligence,
please let us know.

Stanford-Binet: 144
Wechsler: 130

Not a genius, but not bad either. Better than your BS "study" quoted for
any of the Kerry states.

Max