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Jonathan Ganz November 9th 04 07:26 PM

In article ,
Joe wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Who is Jon Hanz? Horass' boyfriend?



Thats Katy type for gayboy.

Joe


Yes, we know you're gay. You don't have to keep telling us.

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"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz November 9th 04 07:27 PM

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to the US
you do.


That's not our department! :-)


Ah, that's the French department... :-)

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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Capt. Mooron November 9th 04 08:01 PM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to the US
you do.


That's not our department! :-)


Ah, that's the French department... :-)


No.... that would be your Homeland Security!

The French really don't care what you think!

CM




Jonathan Ganz November 9th 04 08:04 PM

In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to the US
you do.

That's not our department! :-)


Ah, that's the French department... :-)


No.... that would be your Homeland Security!

The French really don't care what you think!


But they hate us! Especially Californians. We don't like their wine.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


John Cairns November 9th 04 08:42 PM


"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"John Cairns" wrote in message

Well, I'll throw him a bone, he seems so malnourished.
http://www.d7publicaffairs.com/


Not much of a bone, John. Unless you wanted me to see the photo of the
three Dolphins flying over a ceremony. Was that it?

Please be more specific. Nothing in that website corroborates what BB has
been spouting.

Max


These guys are clueless. Go to "helpful links" pull down to "traveling to
cuba". You would think they would have the brains to provide an actual link.
Oh well.
John Cairns






Capt. Mooron November 9th 04 08:50 PM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Capt. Mooron wrote:


The French really don't care what you think!


But they hate us! Especially Californians. We don't like their wine.


They hate everybody..... and they really hate everybody else's wine because
they have so little else to cling to except maybe baguettes & truffles.

It seems as if you Yankees are really concerned with what the French think
about you...... they hold you in contempt.... along with everyone else.

You are not so important as to be singled out for special treatment.

Do not flatter yourself with delusions of importance.

CM



DSK November 9th 04 10:20 PM

Maxprop wrote:
... Too bad the political correctness police (ACLU, et
al) have made profiling a no-no.


Actually, that's not the main reason for not using profiling as a
crime-fighting or anti-terrorist tool. The main reason is that it
doesn't work.


... So I, a middle-age white American male,
get the third degree at an airport in order to allow the security folks to
do the same to Ahmed or Mohammed without being "discriminatory."


Ah, now the truth comes out. You just want to see the rent-a-cops
hassling people with darker skin than yourself.


... Profiling
could save the US tons of money, not to mention loads of time at the
airports and other transportation centers.


It could save loads of time, but would only waste tons of money. And of
course, it would save *you* time (thus revealing your selfish motives)
but be a big hassle for everybody else... and it would be far more
likely to let more terrorists slip through.

DSK



Scott Vernon November 9th 04 11:09 PM


"Capt. Mooron" wrote

The French really don't care how they stink!

CM





John Cairns November 9th 04 11:11 PM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote

The French really don't care how they stink!

CM




French women are beautiful, and they smell like french perfume.
John Cairns



Scott Vernon November 9th 04 11:11 PM


--
"Jonathan Loser Ganz" wrote
Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to

the US
you do.



Oh no you don't, liar.

SV



Jonathan Ganz November 9th 04 11:55 PM

In article ,
John Cairns wrote:
French women are beautiful, and they smell like french perfume.
John Cairns


Sigh... new a French woman a few years ago. Met in BVI. She was
wonderful. Unfortunately, lost track of her a few weeks later.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz November 9th 04 11:56 PM

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:

--
"Jonathan Loser Ganz" wrote
Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to

the US
you do.



Oh no you don't, liar.


This from a guy who never travels more than a few miles from his house
due to "terrorist" fears.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Scott Vernon November 10th 04 12:02 AM


"Jonathan Loser Ganz" wrote

Sigh... new a French woman a few years ago. Met in BVI. She was
wonderful. Unfortunately, I turned gay a few weeks later.





Jonathan Ganz November 10th 04 12:04 AM

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
Sigh... knew a French woman a few years ago. Met in BVI. She was
wonderful. Unfortunately, I turned gay a few weeks later.


Scoots has a lot of experience with this, apparently. I mean get real,
he looks like Elvis after he died.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath November 10th 04 01:00 AM

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 07:43:52 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I prefer sex with men.


I have to gay-up everything.



Yes I do.


Yes you do.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz November 10th 04 01:08 AM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
I'm a fag.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


katysails November 10th 04 03:27 AM

But they do insist on body cavity searches on anyone from the San Francisco
Bay area....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Americans don't need a passport to come to Canada Jon..... we also don't
require finger-printing a photo for customs like the USA now requires for
entry.

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I thought Canadians like Americans.... I know the women do....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
A hint that, unlike Joe and Scoots, I can actually get a passport.

Now there is a dilemma..... you can travel anywhere that requires a
passport.... yet any destination that requires a passport probably
dislikes Americans!

Kind of a Catch 22??!!

CM









katysails November 10th 04 03:30 AM

I will attest to the fact that Max is a middle-aged white male....unless
he's been out in the sun too long..then he's a middle-aged male lobster...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

Americans don't need a passport to come to Canada Jon..... we also don't
require finger-printing a photo for customs like the USA now requires for
entry.


A damn shame, isn't it. Too bad the political correctness police (ACLU,
et al) have made profiling a no-no. So I, a middle-age white American
male, get the third degree at an airport in order to allow the security
folks to do the same to Ahmed or Mohammed without being "discriminatory."
Profiling could save the US tons of money, not to mention loads of time at
the airports and other transportation centers.

Max




katysails November 10th 04 03:34 AM

That's a pile, (unless if you're from San Francisco)....none of us have ever
been asked to produce a passport when returning from Ontario after a family
visit...at the tunnel or at the bridge....and none of our Canadian relatives
ahs been asked to produce one to enter here to visit either....what a
load....
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to the US
you do.


That's not our department! :-)

CM






Horvath November 10th 04 05:45 AM

On 9 Nov 2004 17:08:29 -0800, (Jon- boy
Loser Ganz) wrote this crap:

I'm a fag.



We know. We know.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Maxprop November 10th 04 07:17 AM


wrote in message

Good for you, Maxipad. You also think that Dumb**** Bush is telling
the truth. You seem pretty much "truth impaired".

Personally, I hope you continue to think it's BS right up until the
steel door slams shut on you.


You truly are an annoying slug, BB. Why haven't you killfiled me again?

Max



Maxprop November 10th 04 07:18 AM


wrote in message

Why not go a step further, and kill anybody who isn't just like you.
Boy would that keep the lines short! What a convenience! You are
clearly nothing but a racist.


May I begin with you?

Max



Maxprop November 10th 04 07:18 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

I think we should start with men named Max. Obviously they're subversive.


Indeed we are. Better watch your backside, Jonny. :-)

Max



Maxprop November 10th 04 07:24 AM


"John Cairns" wrote in message

These guys are clueless. Go to "helpful links" pull down to "traveling to
cuba". You would think they would have the brains to provide an actual

link.
Oh well.
John Cairns


Well, that certainly was more helpful. Thanks. However I find it typical
that BB failed to mention that one can obtain a Coastal Gestapo permit to
travel to Cuba. His implication was that it couldn't be done without CG
interdiction. Of course he was in error.

Max



Maxprop November 10th 04 07:28 AM


"DSK" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:
... Too bad the political correctness police (ACLU, et
al) have made profiling a no-no.


Actually, that's not the main reason for not using profiling as a
crime-fighting or anti-terrorist tool. The main reason is that it
doesn't work.


... So I, a middle-age white American male,
get the third degree at an airport in order to allow the security folks

to
do the same to Ahmed or Mohammed without being "discriminatory."


Ah, now the truth comes out. You just want to see the rent-a-cops
hassling people with darker skin than yourself.


... Profiling
could save the US tons of money, not to mention loads of time at the
airports and other transportation centers.


It could save loads of time, but would only waste tons of money. And of
course, it would save *you* time (thus revealing your selfish motives)
but be a big hassle for everybody else... and it would be far more
likely to let more terrorists slip through.


Please explain your contention. Or has the fact that every one of the
terrorists of 9/11/01 were males of Arabic descent between the ages of 18
and 45 escaped you? Apart from Tim McVey, can you name one single episode
of terrorism against the US in which the perps did not fit the above
description?

Max



Maxprop November 10th 04 07:30 AM


"katysails" wrote in message

I will attest to the fact that Max is a middle-aged white male....unless
he's been out in the sun too long..then he's a middle-aged male lobster...


While you may be tempted to serve me up with drawn butter, I really prefer a
nice dry white wine.

Max



katysails November 10th 04 12:16 PM

Shouldn't use butter on burns anyway...makes them blister....I'd think the
white wine would have a drying effect, though....ever tried an aloe
cocktail?

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

I will attest to the fact that Max is a middle-aged white male....unless
he's been out in the sun too long..then he's a middle-aged male
lobster...


While you may be tempted to serve me up with drawn butter, I really prefer
a
nice dry white wine.

Max





Capt. Mooron November 10th 04 02:06 PM

I certainly did read that far.... :-D

CM

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:59:09 +1100, Peter Wiley
scribbled thusly:


Yeah, my wife went over there as an invited speaker at a conference on
neonatal genetic disorders and how to detect them. Same crap. She got
targeted by the so-called random search routine, had her luggage pulled
apart, etc etc. Like a late 40-y/o Australian professional woman going
to an international conference is likely to be a terrorist - suuure.
The 'random search' routine apparently stays with you, too, because she
got checked over every time she went thru an airport.

Guess where she's not going again? She's just been over in China
advising them on how to set up a neonatal screening lab and the IAEA is
hiring her to set up another lab in the Philippines. Got a list of
publications a mile long and gets treated like crap in the USA. China
was a piece of cake and the Filipinos always look after her really well
- we set up their first screening lab back in 1997, I did the software
& hardware, she did the training and lab setup.

You'd be surprised at how many of my friends and acquaintances now no
longer holiday in the US either.


No, I wouldn't be at all surprised. Between the Patriot Act and
self-righteous dickheads on both sides why would you bother? I'm
actually tempted to go to Cuba but NZ is closer if I want to visit a
3rd World failed Socialist state :-)

Pity, it was fun educating Merkins.
So many are just like Joe.....but not as rabid.


I lived in the S-W and the people there were nice. I don't have a bad
feeling about Americans, quite the opposite in fact. You get a
different perspective when you're working somewhere than you do as a
tourist. Joe & I would argue politics over a few brews and get on fine.
The ones I really can't stomach are the self-righteous soi-disant
intelligent zealots who refuse to believe anything that conflicts with
their dogma. Joe has some of this but honestly, Jon & Bob have him
beaten hands down. Dave isn't any better.

PDW


They won't have read this far ;-)


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Jonathan Ganz November 10th 04 06:41 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
I'm a fag.


We know. We know.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz November 10th 04 06:42 PM

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

wrote in message

Good for you, Maxipad. You also think that Dumb**** Bush is telling
the truth. You seem pretty much "truth impaired".

Personally, I hope you continue to think it's BS right up until the
steel door slams shut on you.


You truly are an annoying slug, BB. Why haven't you killfiled me again?


Clearly, you want to read his posts. Why don't you killfile him??
Because you can't.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz November 10th 04 06:44 PM

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

I think we should start with men named Max. Obviously they're subversive.


Indeed we are. Better watch your backside, Jonny. :-)


Firstly, I didn't type it. Secondly, I don't remember the original
reference. Thirdly, why are you interested in my backside?

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz November 10th 04 06:47 PM

In article ,
katysails wrote:
That's a pile, (unless if you're from San Francisco)....none of us have ever
been asked to produce a passport when returning from Ontario after a family
visit...at the tunnel or at the bridge....and none of our Canadian relatives
ahs been asked to produce one to enter here to visit either....what a
load....
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Oh yes we do.... a friend found that out... well, to get back to the US
you do.


Katy, it's an absolute fact. It happened just a couple of months
ago. They're in their late 60s, early 70s. The US border agent hassled
them quite a bit and only let them through because they begged and had
picture ID.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath November 10th 04 11:36 PM

On 10 Nov 2004 10:41:59 -0800, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

I'm a fag.


We know. We know.



Yes we know.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

DSK November 11th 04 12:18 AM

... Profiling
could save the US tons of money, not to mention loads of time at the
airports and other transportation centers.


It could save loads of time, but would only waste tons of money. And of
course, it would save *you* time (thus revealing your selfish motives)
but be a big hassle for everybody else... and it would be far more
likely to let more terrorists slip through.



Maxprop wrote:
Please explain your contention.


It's not *my* contention, it's the contention of every law enforcement
statistical study that considers the issue.


... Or has the fact that every one of the
terrorists of 9/11/01 were males of Arabic descent between the ages of 18
and 45 escaped you?


Ah, and obviously all future terrorists are going follow the exact same MO?

And it's also interesting how you can make this point when it suits you,
but it seems to slide under the table when Bush's foreign policy is the
issue....

DSK


Jonathan Ganz November 11th 04 12:31 AM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
I'm a fag.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!


Horass, everyone knows. You don't have to keep repeating yourself.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Maxprop November 11th 04 05:35 AM


OzOne wrote in message

She's just been over in China
advising them on how to set up a neonatal screening lab and the IAEA is
hiring her to set up another lab in the Philippines.


What does the International Atomic Energy Agency have to do with neonate
screenings? Just curious.

Max


Maxprop November 11th 04 05:42 AM


wrote in message


Glad to know that I annoy you. I'll try harder!


Good for you. Interestingly you are the only one who does annoy me, mostly
because you simply regurgitate thoughtless left-wing drivel in a boorish,
abrasive manner. You appear to believe you are periodically funny, but any
attempt at humor is overwhelmed by your obtuse demeanor. You're little more
than a NG bully. Even Jon, Bubbles, Oz, Donal and Vito are fun to debate.
You're just . . . annoying.

Please killfile me again, Filter Boy. It was so much nicer around here
then.

Max



Maxprop November 11th 04 05:48 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Clearly, you want to read his posts. Why don't you killfile him??
Because you can't.


I don't filter anyone, unless he's overtly threatening, such as that asshole
Ekal Bnek a few years ago.

Max



Maxprop November 11th 04 05:50 AM


wrote in message

As your failed president would say, BRING IT ON.


Failed? You seem unusually perceptively challenged, Einstein, in light of
the fact that he soundly thumped your failed candidate on 11/2.

Max



Maxprop November 11th 04 05:51 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

We all wish you would! But, you can't, can you.


Nope, I can't.

Max




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