Martin Baxter wrote:
Scarey isn't it Bob? Just as bad as the analogy being bandied around
likening Bush's activities in
the Middle East to the Crusades, he should do a little research; didn't
the Crusaders get whooped there,
followed by the Moors taking over half of Europe?

I think ya got that one backwards. The Moors overran Spain in the early
700s and battled Charlemagne's grandfather at Tours in 732. By the time
the Carolingian Renaissance was under way, Charlemagne was fighting them
south of the Pyrenees. The Crusades didn't start until more than three
hundred years later, when Pope Urban cried out against the infidel, a
classic political red herring, and the crowd roared "Deus Le Volt"
(trans: the batteries in my Walkman are dead)

BTW for those inclined to take the recent election too seriously
http://letsriot.com/stuff/new_map.jpg

Regards
Doug King