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Joe November 2nd 04 10:42 PM

5 gallons
 
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe

Jonathan Ganz November 2nd 04 11:25 PM

Oh, come clean already!

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe




DSK November 2nd 04 11:39 PM

Joe wrote:
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.


Why? These "instant" heaters are much more energy efficient.

http://66.161.146.46/index.htm

DSK


Jonathan Ganz November 3rd 04 12:20 AM

Do you think it has the capacity for Joe?

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Joe wrote:
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.


Why? These "instant" heaters are much more energy efficient.

http://66.161.146.46/index.htm

DSK




Scott Vernon November 3rd 04 01:46 AM

Ganz, must you gay up every post?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Oh, come clean already!





Scott Vernon November 3rd 04 01:50 AM

6 gallons. that's what mine is.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe




katysails November 3rd 04 02:50 AM

Ours if 5 gallons but since we mainly use it to do the dishes and very
rarely use it for showers, that's all we need. If you're not actively
cruising where there aren't showers, why bother? Doesn't your marina have
showers?

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe




Scott Vernon November 3rd 04 03:29 AM

you never anchor out?

SV

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Ours if 5 gallons but since we mainly use it to do the dishes and

very
rarely take showers, that's all we need. If you're not actively
cruising where there aren't showers, why bother? Doesn't your

marina have
showers?





Thom Stewart November 3rd 04 06:27 AM

Joe,

If I sailed where you do, I'd take advantage of the Sun with a Solar
Heater for showers.

The 5 Gal is small but it takes up enough space onboard. Nice to have
but think twice about enlarging.

Ole Thom


Joe November 3rd 04 03:02 PM

DSK wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.


Why? These "instant" heaters are much more energy efficient.

http://66.161.146.46/index.htm

DSK


I've looked at them but I hear they take lots of power to work.

Joe

Joe November 3rd 04 03:06 PM

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Ours if 5 gallons but since we mainly use it to do the dishes and very
rarely use it for showers, that's all we need. If you're not actively
cruising where there aren't showers, why bother? Doesn't your marina have
showers?


Yes the marina has showers but its a long walk. Its nice to have a
long hot shower and not run out of hot water. We live aboard so we use
hot water all the time.

Joe



"Joe" wrote in message
om...
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe


Joe November 3rd 04 03:11 PM

(Thom Stewart) wrote in message ...
Joe,

If I sailed where you do, I'd take advantage of the Sun with a Solar
Heater for showers.


We do have a solar shower(black Bag for deck) we do use some, however
when it works best you really want a cold shower that time off year.




The 5 Gal is small but it takes up enough space onboard. Nice to have
but think twice about enlarging.


Yelp I do not have the height needed for a 10 gallon and would have to
put two 5 gallon tanks side by side, either that or reduce the size of
the sail locker.

Joe




Ole Thom


DSK November 3rd 04 04:56 PM

Why? These "instant" heaters are much more energy efficient.


Joe wrote:
I've looked at them but I hear they take lots of power to work.


Who'd you hear that from, Dick Cheney? They are more efficient than tank
type water heaters.

Lots of boats have propane instant water heaters, they work just fine.
Take up less space, less weight (not that this is an issue for you),
less likely to corrode through. The downside is that they can't be
plumbed to take advantage of engine heat the way most tank heaters are,
and they need to be well vented and need an exhaust outlet.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Lady Sailor November 3rd 04 10:24 PM

We have a ten gallon water heater but seldom use it here in Mexico.
Typically we shower on deck with the solar shower when at anchor and
use the shore showers when in port. I especially don't wash my hair
down below because it's grown pretty long and mucks up the drain.

Barb
S/V Arabella

(Joe) wrote:
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe


katysails November 4th 04 02:21 AM

yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with a bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....\

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
you never anchor out?

SV

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Ours if 5 gallons but since we mainly use it to do the dishes and

very
rarely take showers, that's all we need. If you're not actively
cruising where there aren't showers, why bother? Doesn't your

marina have
showers?







katysails November 4th 04 02:23 AM

One of the reasons I don't use outs very often....digging hair out of bilge
pimps is not fun....

"Lady Sailor" wrote in message
om...
We have a ten gallon water heater but seldom use it here in Mexico.
Typically we shower on deck with the solar shower when at anchor and
use the shore showers when in port. I especially don't wash my hair
down below because it's grown pretty long and mucks up the drain.

Barb
S/V Arabella

(Joe) wrote:
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe




Scott Vernon November 4th 04 10:48 AM

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with a

bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....


do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice pick.

Scotty




Scott Vernon November 4th 04 11:11 AM


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:48:31 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with

a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....


do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice

pick.

Scotty


Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


and a double barrel.



Horvath November 4th 04 11:23 AM

On 3 Nov 2004 14:24:13 -0800, (Lady
Sailor) wrote this crap:

We have a ten gallon water heater but seldom use it here in Mexico.
Typically we shower on deck with the solar shower when at anchor and
use the shore showers when in port. I especially don't wash my hair
down below because it's grown pretty long and mucks up the drain.



You hair down below, hangs down to the drain? I hope you don't wear
skirts.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

DSK November 4th 04 02:26 PM

yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with
a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....
do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice

pick.



OzOne wrote
Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..



Scott Vernon wrote:
and a double barrel.


And a duck call. 'Tis the season!

DSK


Joe November 4th 04 03:29 PM

"katysails" wrote in message ...
One of the reasons I don't use outs very often....digging hair out of bilge
pimps is not fun....


Bilge pimps?? Do you have bilge hookers?

Well I have to dig long red hair out of our bilge pump at least once
a mo.
Part of regular maintaince, just like cleaning out the AC strainers,
main strainers ect......


Joe


"Lady Sailor" wrote in message
om...
We have a ten gallon water heater but seldom use it here in Mexico.
Typically we shower on deck with the solar shower when at anchor and
use the shore showers when in port. I especially don't wash my hair
down below because it's grown pretty long and mucks up the drain.

Barb
S/V Arabella

(Joe) wrote:
How large do you think your water heater
should be?

I have a 5 gallon but I think I must double the effort.

Joe


Thom Stewart November 4th 04 10:40 PM

I've got a little cove with a small water fall. I use to strip down and
shower. A couple of years ago I dinked in and on the way up the path; Lo
and behold, there was a portapoti set up by the County.

Needless to say, I no longer strip down. Still haven't met any one but
I've been told that it is a favorite spot for the Sea Kayakers.

Ole Thom


Scott Vernon November 5th 04 01:46 AM


"DSK" wrote

Scott Vernon wrote:
and a double barrel.


And a duck call. 'Tis the season!



Can we shoot Canadian geese? Man they're a nuisance, and millions of
them..

Scotty



katysails November 5th 04 01:52 AM

....and a scraper to get the leeches off....

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:48:31 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with a

bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....


do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice pick.

Scotty


Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




katysails November 5th 04 01:53 AM

It's really pathetic...the day after Halloween the Christmas stuff comes out
in the stores....

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 09:26:31 -0500, DSK
scribbled thusly:

yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with
a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....
do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice
pick.



OzOne wrote
Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


Scott Vernon wrote:
and a double barrel.


And a duck call. 'Tis the season!

DSK


Xmas already?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




katysails November 5th 04 01:54 AM

He difn't want to scare em....
OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:40:02 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:

I've got a little cove with a small water fall. I use to strip down and
shower. A couple of years ago I dinked in and on the way up the path; Lo
and behold, there was a portapoti set up by the County.

Needless to say, I no longer strip down. Still haven't met any one but
I've been told that it is a favorite spot for the Sea Kayakers.

Ole Thom


Jeez Thom, I though an old salt wouldn't give a rats about the
prospect of being seen in the bollicky.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scott Vernon November 5th 04 02:08 AM

haven't seen any leeches.

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...and a scraper to get the leeches off....

OzOne wrote in message

...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:48:31 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with

a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....

do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice

pick.

Scotty


Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.






katysails November 5th 04 02:12 AM

....a potty trained titally bald Sasquatch.....
OzOne wrote in message ...

Hmmm 'spose.
We'd be hearing tales of a totally bald Sasquatch (sp)

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 01:54:57 GMT, "katysails"
scribbled thusly:

He difn't want to scare em....
OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:40:02 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:

I've got a little cove with a small water fall. I use to strip down and
shower. A couple of years ago I dinked in and on the way up the path; Lo
and behold, there was a portapoti set up by the County.

Needless to say, I no longer strip down. Still haven't met any one but
I've been told that it is a favorite spot for the Sea Kayakers.

Ole Thom

Jeez Thom, I though an old salt wouldn't give a rats about the
prospect of being seen in the bollicky.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




katysails November 5th 04 02:12 AM

....that's good....they're really icky....worse than ticks....

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
haven't seen any leeches.

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...and a scraper to get the leeches off....

OzOne wrote in message

...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:48:31 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in with

a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....

do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice

pick.

Scotty


Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.








Scott Vernon November 5th 04 02:17 AM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...a potty trained titally bald Sasquatch.....


you have hair on yours?



Scott Vernon November 5th 04 02:19 AM

This wasn't a bad year for ticks, here. Shouldn't the wet summer we
had bring more ticks?

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...that's good....they're really icky....worse than ticks....

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
haven't seen any leeches.

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...and a scraper to get the leeches off....

OzOne wrote in message

...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:48:31 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in

with
a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....

do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice

pick.

Scotty


Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.









katysails November 5th 04 02:23 AM

no, but I imagine Thom does on his....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
...a potty trained titally bald Sasquatch.....


you have hair on yours?





katysails November 5th 04 02:24 AM

Usually....maybe you had an influx of tick eating birds?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
This wasn't a bad year for ticks, here. Shouldn't the wet summer we
had bring more ticks?

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...that's good....they're really icky....worse than ticks....

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
haven't seen any leeches.

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
...and a scraper to get the leeches off....

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 05:48:31 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

"katysails" wrote ...
yeah...but you forget we sail in fresh water...just jump in

with
a
bar of
soap...and the soap will actually lather....

do that here too, in the creeks. At least we don't need an ice
pick.

Scotty


Just a banjo and some chewin baccy..


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.











Capt. Mooron November 5th 04 02:40 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
Can we shoot Canadian geese? Man they're a nuisance, and millions of
them..


NO!.... they're a gift from your good neighbours to the north. Think of it
as free fertilizer! Think of it anyway you want.... just remember that we
have a thousand times as many Mosquitos and Blackflys we could send down
your way!

Now about them COWS!??
when are you gonna give it up and start buyin' our cows agin?
We're gettin' Mad as heck... even or Cows are getting PO'd!
You ever seen a Mad Cow??.... Oh Wait... Nevermind!

CM



DSK November 5th 04 02:47 AM

Scott Vernon wrote:
Can we shoot Canadian geese?


Why waste a shell? Just walk up to 'em and grab 'em by the neck.


... Man they're a nuisance, and millions of
them..


Yes, they are a big PITA. And they don't taste all that good, either. I
keep reading about goose feasts on holidays of the past, and I wonder if
people were hungrier back then.

DSK


Scott Vernon November 5th 04 03:00 AM

My buds that go fish Canada every year always complain about the
flies.

BTW, I burned some Canajun lumber this week. So there.
SV


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
Can we shoot Canadian geese? Man they're a nuisance, and millions

of
them..


NO!.... they're a gift from your good neighbours to the north. Think

of it
as free fertilizer! Think of it anyway you want.... just remember

that we
have a thousand times as many Mosquitos and Blackflys we could send

down
your way!

Now about them COWS!??
when are you gonna give it up and start buyin' our cows agin?
We're gettin' Mad as heck... even or Cows are getting PO'd!
You ever seen a Mad Cow??.... Oh Wait... Nevermind!

CM





Michael November 5th 04 03:30 AM

Depends on how many people and how long away from fresh water supply (or if
you have a good watermaker.) The last time I was able to do some serious
long distance sailing I allowed one gallon per day for everything. Usually
used less except down near the equator. But I think if just hob nobbing
along the coast sort of visiting the neighbors...I would want more
amenities. Luckily the new boat came with both types of water heaters but
the main one is 3 gal. When doing serious sailing you really don't have
time to be a dilletante about it just basic keeping clean.

Anyway that's just my take on it and it served me well in the past.

M.

"Joe" wrote in message
m...
(Thom Stewart) wrote in message

...
Joe,

If I sailed where you do, I'd take advantage of the Sun with a Solar
Heater for showers.


We do have a solar shower(black Bag for deck) we do use some, however
when it works best you really want a cold shower that time off year.




The 5 Gal is small but it takes up enough space onboard. Nice to have
but think twice about enlarging.


Yelp I do not have the height needed for a 10 gallon and would have to
put two 5 gallon tanks side by side, either that or reduce the size of
the sail locker.

Joe




Ole Thom




katysails November 5th 04 11:41 AM

They're not Ganadian geese...they're Canada Geese....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
Can we shoot Canadian geese? Man they're a nuisance, and millions of
them..


NO!.... they're a gift from your good neighbours to the north. Think of it
as free fertilizer! Think of it anyway you want.... just remember that we
have a thousand times as many Mosquitos and Blackflys we could send down
your way!

Now about them COWS!??
when are you gonna give it up and start buyin' our cows agin?
We're gettin' Mad as heck... even or Cows are getting PO'd!
You ever seen a Mad Cow??.... Oh Wait... Nevermind!

CM




Bobsprit November 5th 04 12:22 PM

haven't seen any leeches.


Look in the mirror, Dumbass!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Bobsprit November 5th 04 12:23 PM

Shouldn't the wet summer we
had bring more ticks?


Figures Scotty Potti thinks the tick population would thrive under water.
Idiot!

RB


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