Fall Sail on the Chesapeake Bay W/pics
 

Among the lowest cost winches at that time, yes.

RB

Bubbles, you're full of ****!

Ozzy, I hope you know that Barient winches were much more expensive and Lewmar
is STILL one of the cheapest winches you can buy. Ever see an Anderson winch?

RB

is STILL one of the cheapest winches you can buy. Ever see an Anderson winch?

RB

"at the time" Bubbles...."at the time"

At the time Lewmar was a popular winch on low cost boats. Barient was the
pricey item.

RB

Ummm Billy, galvanised was used extensively right into the 70s


And dropped because of it's high failure rate without warning.
Really, Ozzy....is this YOU?


RB

BB.

Everything about a Siedlemann is Temporary
Including your dopey responses?

Bill, I'm sure the memories of that trip will last just as long as if it
was made sailing a "Swan" :^)

And: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!!"

Ole Thom

Who cares what the damn thing costs, as long as it
works good and lasts.

Scotty


OzOne wrote in message
...
On 19 Oct 2004 23:39:53 GMT,
(Bobsprit) scribbled
thusly:

is STILL one of the cheapest winches you can
buy. Ever see an Anderson winch?

RB

"at the time" Bubbles...."at the time"

At the time Lewmar was a popular winch on low
cost boats. Barient was the
pricey item.

RB

So you were around then, buying winches?
I was, we bought Barlow and Lewmar because they
were at least as good
as the Barient at a better price.

Stick around, you might learn something


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been
expecting you.

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
BB.

Everything about a Siedlemann is Temporary
Including your dopey responses?

Bill, I'm sure the memories of that trip will last just as long as if it
was made sailing a "Swan" :^)

You've got that right! We really enjoy sailing with Scott, he's very mellow
and the boat is set up for easy handling. Everything works that needs to
for a FUN, relaxing sail!

Seahag

You were just lucky that you didn't impale
yourself on that stuck winch handle, or that the
coil of line wasn't lifted by a seabreeze and tied
your hands and then push you into the water.
(these things happen in San Francisco).

Scotty


"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
BB.

Everything about a Siedlemann is
Temporary
Including your dopey responses?

Bill, I'm sure the memories of that trip will
last just as long as if it
was made sailing a "Swan" :^)

You've got that right! We really enjoy sailing
with Scott, he's very mellow
and the boat is set up for easy handling.
Everything works that needs to
for a FUN, relaxing sail!

Seahag

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
You were just lucky that you didn't impale
yourself on that stuck winch handle, or that the
coil of line wasn't lifted by a seabreeze and tied
your hands and then push you into the water.
(these things happen in San Francisco).


Man, I was just going to type that!! g

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

So there, all you blabs...if Haggie says it's an ok boat, then it's an ok
boat and that's the end of it.

"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
BB.

Everything about a Siedlemann is Temporary
Including your dopey responses?

Bill, I'm sure the memories of that trip will last just as long as if it
was made sailing a "Swan" :^)

You've got that right! We really enjoy sailing with Scott, he's very
mellow and the boat is set up for easy handling. Everything works that
needs to for a FUN, relaxing sail!

Seahag

In article ,
katysails wrote:
So there, all you blabs...if Haggie says it's an ok boat, then it's an ok
boat and that's the end of it.

Who said it wasn't an ok boat?




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Get with the program, Jon.....

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
katysails wrote:
So there, all you blabs...if Haggie says it's an ok boat, then it's an ok
boat and that's the end of it.

Who said it wasn't an ok boat?




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Shiver me timbers...

In article ,
katysails wrote:
Get with the program, Jon.....

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
katysails wrote:
So there, all you blabs...if Haggie says it's an ok boat, then it's an ok
boat and that's the end of it.

Who said it wasn't an ok boat?


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

We're lucky an Albatross didn't poop on us!

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You were just lucky that you didn't impale
yourself on that stuck winch handle, or that the
coil of line wasn't lifted by a seabreeze and tied
your hands and then push you into the water.
(these things happen in San Francisco).

Scotty


"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
BB.

Everything about a Siedlemann is
Temporary
Including your dopey responses?

Bill, I'm sure the memories of that trip will
last just as long as if it
was made sailing a "Swan" :^)

You've got that right! We really enjoy sailing
with Scott, he's very mellow
and the boat is set up for easy handling.
Everything works that needs to
for a FUN, relaxing sail!

Seahag

In article , OzOne wrote:

On 20 Oct 2004 11:35:30 GMT, (Bobsprit) scribbled
thusly:

Ummm Billy, galvanised was used extensively right into the 70s


And dropped because of it's high failure rate without warning.
Really, Ozzy....is this YOU?


RB

No Bubbles, it was dropped in favor of a material that more suited a
generation that had better things to do with their time than boil
linseed which resulted in early failure of galv wire rigging.

Not quite right but we get the gist. You can use some epoxies these
days for the same purpose.

Hey Blobby, you & your sockpuppet really should learn something about
the properties of materials before you post. Then again, it'd be a
first so nobody should hold their breath.

Clue for the clueless. How many deep ocean research vessels deploy
million-dollar pieces of equipment on s/steel wires to depths of over 5
kilometers? It's a nice round number......

High tensile galvanised steel wire is superior in every way to s/steel
WRT to mechanical properties. 1x19 s/steel is used for only a few
reasons and most of them are hype.

PDW

Was watching a History Channel show where they were searching for the
sunk 'Derbyshire'(?) and they lost a very expensive sonar piece of
equipment when the tow cable broke.

SV


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , OzOne
wrote:

On 20 Oct 2004 11:35:30 GMT, (Bobsprit)
scribbled
thusly:

Ummm Billy, galvanised was used extensively right into the 70s


And dropped because of it's high failure rate without warning.
Really, Ozzy....is this YOU?


RB

No Bubbles, it was dropped in favor of a material that more suited
a
generation that had better things to do with their time than boil
linseed which resulted in early failure of galv wire rigging.

Not quite right but we get the gist. You can use some epoxies these
days for the same purpose.

Hey Blobby, you & your sockpuppet really should learn something
about
the properties of materials before you post. Then again, it'd be a
first so nobody should hold their breath.

Clue for the clueless. How many deep ocean research vessels deploy
million-dollar pieces of equipment on s/steel wires to depths of
over 5
kilometers? It's a nice round number......

High tensile galvanised steel wire is superior in every way to
s/steel
WRT to mechanical properties. 1x19 s/steel is used for only a few
reasons and most of them are hype.

PDW

It happens. We lost a chunk of oceanographic sampling gear off the
Amery Ice Shelf in 2002 when a cable got broken by a winch problem.
Blessing in disguise really as we then got to buy all new, state of the
art gear.

Blobby's knowledge of cables & wires is on a par with his knowledge of
power tools.

PDW

In article , Scott Vernon
wrote:

Was watching a History Channel show where they were searching for the
sunk 'Derbyshire'(?) and they lost a very expensive sonar piece of
equipment when the tow cable broke.

SV


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , OzOne
wrote:

On 20 Oct 2004 11:35:30 GMT, (Bobsprit)
scribbled
thusly:

Ummm Billy, galvanised was used extensively right into the 70s


And dropped because of it's high failure rate without warning.
Really, Ozzy....is this YOU?


RB

No Bubbles, it was dropped in favor of a material that more suited
a
generation that had better things to do with their time than boil
linseed which resulted in early failure of galv wire rigging.

Not quite right but we get the gist. You can use some epoxies these
days for the same purpose.

Hey Blobby, you & your sockpuppet really should learn something
about
the properties of materials before you post. Then again, it'd be a
first so nobody should hold their breath.

Clue for the clueless. How many deep ocean research vessels deploy
million-dollar pieces of equipment on s/steel wires to depths of
over 5
kilometers? It's a nice round number......

High tensile galvanised steel wire is superior in every way to
s/steel
WRT to mechanical properties. 1x19 s/steel is used for only a few
reasons and most of them are hype.

PDW

I would guess that SS isn't as flexible and wouldn't stand up to the
constant turning of a drum?

SV


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:26:45 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

Was watching a History Channel show where they were searching for
the
sunk 'Derbyshire'(?) and they lost a very expensive sonar piece of
equipment when the tow cable broke.

SV
Yeah, that's why they don't use SS ....they'd lose lots more!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

It's partly that and partly the 'typical' wire used in yacht rigging.
1x19 is naturally stiff and its bending radius is something like 40x
the wire diameter. 7x7 or 6x19 or other lays are a lot more flexible.
Then again 316 s/s simply doesn't have the same resistance to work
hardening that carbon steels do.

With the flex comes stretch. A good thing if you want cable to take
shock loads, not so good if you want a bar taut stay. Why racing boats
have gone to rod rigging - essentially 1x1 cable :-)

A supplier fitted a lifting cable to my ship. It was 7x7 s/steel
running over a turning block of less than 20x the dia of the wire.
Lasted less than one season. Got replaced with spectra which got its
outer braid chafed thru in a single cruise. It's now rigged with galv
cable. Wasn't enough physical room to increase the block dia.

Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice. Shackles & lifting hooks are
another story, similar. See how many s/steel shackles & hooks that are
stamped with a SWL.

PDW

In article , Scott Vernon
wrote:

I would guess that SS isn't as flexible and wouldn't stand up to the
constant turning of a drum?

SV


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:26:45 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

Was watching a History Channel show where they were searching for
the
sunk 'Derbyshire'(?) and they lost a very expensive sonar piece of
equipment when the tow cable broke.

SV
Yeah, that's why they don't use SS ....they'd lose lots more!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.