"david" wrote in message
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david wrote in message
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interested in the collective thoughts of the group re latest thoughts
on ---
for the blue water cruiser
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This site might be of interest

http://www.windpilot.com/en/Se/Yacht/detailen.html

Nigel


thanks for input - given me some ideas and info

i am going to sell up and go sailing - hence blue water designs and
issues.

i need something that is comfortable for me solo - and maybe some crew or
friends later.

it has raised issues of work, finance, repairs, maintenance, running
expenses etc etc

i do not have a lot of cash, but should be able to get into something for
up to AU$200K.

the beneteau thing came about as they are so much cheaper in USA than in
australia.- will check out listings in gibraltar and canaries.

they have some nice configurations 2 and 3 cabins with ensuits, centre
cockpit, cutter rig, 38 - 50 feet etc etc

other suggestions
morris - nice
mac - have not seen any

another option is to syndicate and go racing for a while - there are some
nice race boats on the market that could be fun.- but i am not as young as
i used to be.

any further info welcomed

cheers

david

If you're going long distance cruising single handed save some money to get
a seriously strong wind operated self steering (don't rely on electric ones
for that sort of use) - preferably with a separate mini-rudder, and a good
high output wind generator and some solar panels too. And don't forget
spares & manuals for them. They'll be working all the time in all conditions
and will allow you not to, which is essential, because no-one can keep going
for ever.

Duncan Heenan wrote:

If you're going long distance cruising single handed save some money
to get a seriously strong wind operated self steering (don't rely on
electric ones for that sort of use) - preferably with a separate
mini-rudder, and a good high output wind generator and some solar
panels too. And don't forget spares & manuals for them. They'll be
working all the time in all conditions and will allow you not to,
which is essential, because no-one can keep going for ever.

Yup, I think a vane is the way to go for crossing oceans short-handed. So it
would be good to get a boat that works with one -- some don't, while others will
hold a course for ages, all by themselves.

Matt O.

"Duncan Heenan" wrote in message ...

If you're going long distance cruising single handed save some money to get
a seriously strong wind operated self steering

Agree. I came across one of there for the first time this weekend.
Cracking bits of kit if you have the cash. As good as an extra crew
member [1] 90 per cent of the time.

(don't rely on electric ones
for that sort of use)

I don't think people do! ;-)


[1] One that doesn't take up space or bring kit or eat food.

Duncan Heenan wrote:


If you're going long distance cruising single handed save some money to
get a seriously strong wind operated self steering (don't rely on electric
ones for that sort of use) - preferably with a separate mini-rudder, and a
good high output wind generator and some solar panels too. And don't
forget spares & manuals for them. They'll be working all the time in all
conditions and will allow you not to, which is essential, because no-one
can keep going for ever.

I fitted a Monitor to J (a Nicholson 32) about 10 years ago amd I would not
be without it. It has steered her on all points of sailing up to gale
conditions far better than a electrical unit could (perhaps, except for the
most expensive ones), silently and without amps.

I very seldom don't use it when sailing, except when I want a bit of fun
steering.

Must have done about 10,000 miles using it and it has never needed any
attention.