Among normal people who think with the stuff between their ears...


To people like Dave, that stuff is called "Hair."

RB

But with you, it's so easy!!

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On 04 Oct 2004 10:14:52 GMT, (Bobsprit) said:

To people like Dave, that stuff is called "Hair."

If you don't like the message, attack the messenger, right.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
You wouldn't be saying that if GWB had done better. Now fes up.



Bull..... Well done is better than well said.

You may be happy to be spoon fed slogans. You may be estatic that
Kerry appeared more Presidential in your opinion.

But appearences are not what makes a good leader. What makes a good
leader is someone you can follow and count on. Someone you know that
will do what he says he will do. Someone that you know can lead.

Kerry has proven he is not a leader. He is a follower at best.
He that will not sail till all dangers are over must never put to sea.
Kerry will never put to sea, and Americans will pay the price.


Our president ......set a course....sails boldly...leads the fleet
because its is the right thing to do. He is not going to wait for
permission to cast off. He may have to deal with storms, rough seas,
and even the risk of death...but he knows the journey is urgent,
rightious and must be done. He knows that he has his hands on the helm
of the finest ship in the world.

Kerry thou a slick actor/lawyer was nothing but a critic and it is not
the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbled or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The
credit belongs to he man who is actually at sea; whose face is marred
by salt and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes
short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great
devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best,
knows the triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he
fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall
never be with those cold and timid souls who knew niether victory nor
defeat.

Joe










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"Joe" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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A draw??? Not even close. Kerry did much better, although not as good as
he
should have done.



The whole debate was a joke. Why it was called a debate I have no ideal.
It was yet another glorifed press meeting full of sound bites.

It sucked. I wanna see a real debate where they can talk to each other.

SOS nothing new.

John McCain 2008!!

Joe










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"Dave" wrote in message
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It seems that CSPAN caught Joe Lockhart in an unguarded moment after
the
debate saying "Basically, the overall is that this thing was a draw."
Nice
to hear Lockhart speaking truth for a change. That's consistent with my
own
reaction just after the debate, and the reaction of my daughter, who
watched
it elsewhere and is on the other side of the political fence. Both of
us
thought it essentially a draw.

So why do the instant polls taken by the networks not reflect the
reality?
One explanation is probably an e-mail from the Kerry campaign to its
supporters, sent on the day before the debate, reading in part as
follows:

"Here are a few ways that we need you to take action after tonight's
debate:
° Vote in online polls. National and local news organizations will all
be conducting online polls during and after the debate asking for
reader's
opinions. Look for online polls at these national news websites:
°° ABC News
°° CBS News
°° MSNBC
°° CNN
°° Fox News
(each of the above was a direct link)

° Call in to radio and TV talk shows.
° Write a letter to the editor of your local paper:"

In other words there was a carefully coordinated effort by the Kerry
folks
to create a bandwagon effect by manipulating the results of the polls.

So, this was some sort of revelation for you? How naive. I guess the
Republicans
would NEVER do something like that. What a load of hooey.

In article ,
Dave wrote:
Fans of "All the news that's fit to print" may note that when the Dems tried
to rig the "flash polls" by telling their supporters to vote for their man
online in the network polls there was nada in the Times about it. When the
Republicans sent virtually the same e-mail message yesterday, it suddenly
became newsworthy.

So, what's your point? It's a fact of life. Get used to it.

The real issue is that polls tend to be self-fullfilling. Most people
(something like 90%) refuse to participate in telephone polls.




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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 6 Oct 2004 11:23:12 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

So, what's your point?

I suppose you never were one for nuance. It's that you can't trust what you
see in the Times.

Oh! I thought you were talking about the point on your head! If you
can't trust what you see in the Times, I suggest you READ the Times.




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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 6 Oct 2004 14:25:54 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

If you
can't trust what you see in the Times, I suggest you READ the Times.

I do, Jonathan. That's how I know.

I guess it's the definition you use for "see."

We all know you prefer the picture books, so I just assumed you were
looking at the comics.



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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 6 Oct 2004 16:15:42 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

If you
can't trust what you see in the Times, I suggest you READ the Times.

I do, Jonathan. That's how I know.

I guess it's the definition you use for "see."

We all know you prefer the picture books, so I just assumed you were
looking at the comics.

Utterly sophomoric.

Keep responding Mr. Poodle... yap, yap, all bark, no bite.

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