Correct. And a softwood plug gets tighter with time.

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:

The plugs have come in handy for me because they're easy to jam into a hose.
Sometimes you don't want to force a seacock, or they can be hard to reach.

"DSK" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in some sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

Civilized people....obviously not you since you begged the question....
"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:32:20 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

That's why you need rags....you jam a rag in and then jam the plug in and
the rag fills in the edges.....old socks would work good, too....or
grundy
undies....

Who wears "undies" on a boat?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Our e-tiller is a piece of iron tubing that fits on top of the ruffer post
that is capped off on the stern...if you had to, you could fit another pipe
into it to extend it, but you'd have to take the wheel off to make room....I
suppose we should try it once to see if it works (or how hard it works) but
I think we'll wait until the bad thing hits and we're forced to use
it...BTW...we have an aft cabin boat and it's not in the aft cabin....
"DSK" wrote in message
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John Cairns wrote:
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was
steered
from the aft cabin!!!!

The O'Day 37 and Whitby 42 are like that... probably true of many
aft-cabin boats.

Emergency steering is a sore point on many boats. The emergency tiller
is difficult to connect, the connection is not as strong as it should be
(especially considering that it will most likely be used under strenuous
conditions), the tiller too short without enough mechanical advantage
(ditto parenthetical note above), and obstructions in the cockpit
prevent the emergency tiller from being swung thru a proper arc for
steering. For most boats, the emergency steering is a poor afterthought.

Serious racers are somewhat better in that regard, it's a requirement
for ORC Cat 1 & 2... wouldn't it be cool to require one race out of a
major series be held with all boats using emergency steering? It'd be an
eye-opener I bet.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

If I got a hole that large, you can bet your booties the fin is gone.....
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"katysails" wrote in message
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I'd jam all the bedding into it first and then get a sail and do the
under
the hull thing.....

Isnt you boat a full keeler? If so how the sail under the hull thing gonna
work?

Joe




"Joe" wrote in message
om...
DSK wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine,
or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in
some sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make
them
from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after
driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than
a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old
tradition?

DSK


Sounds like a good ideal Doug, but I would only add duct tape and
bags to my DC kit. Plugs are great to use from the outside in. That
way if you have a spare valve and threading gear you can fix a busted
thru hull offshore.

I think thru hulls are an easy fix. What I would worry about is tears
or long holes caused by something like smaking the corner of a
submerged container or sharp reef. How would you fix lets say a 2
inch wide 14" long hole?

Joe

Joe

Too much exertion????
"Nav" wrote in message
...
How do you think a seacock breaks?

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Maxprop wrote:

Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in
some sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them
from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after
driving
them in.


Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

I have a custom stainless emergency tiller that was made by a crewmember's
company that is in the stainless steel business. It's better looking than a
chrome anchor. I have wood bungs to fit the thru hulls. I figure that's all I
need along with my Fortress anchor since I only day sail and race. I'm always
close enough to shore to swim back.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:48:18 +1200, Nav wrote
this crap:

Correct. And a softwood plug gets tighter with time.

Don't tell Jon-boy, or he'll look for one.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

He would have to pressurize it first and I think that unlikely.

Cheers

katysails wrote:

Too much exertion????
"Nav" wrote in message
...

How do you think a seacock breaks?

Cheers

DSK wrote:


Maxprop wrote:


Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in
some sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them

from

teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after

driving

them in.


Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

I wonder how many dead men said that?

Cheers

SAIL LOCO wrote:

I have a custom stainless emergency tiller that was made by a crewmember's
company that is in the stainless steel business. It's better looking than a
chrome anchor. I have wood bungs to fit the thru hulls. I figure that's all I
need along with my Fortress anchor since I only day sail and race. I'm always
close enough to shore to swim back.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

..I
suppose we should try it once to see if it works (or how hard it works)


Ya think???!!!

RB