Plus, if you get one of those official yellow 5 gallon plastic jerry cans
and strap it to your stern rails it looks veeeeeeeeeery cool.
John Cairns
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I think I will. Just for peace of mind.

Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
Scotty's boat has an LWL of 25 so 5 knots means an S/L of 1.0.
Pushing a boat
at S/L of 1.0 needs one HP per 1200 pounds, which for 7500 pounds is
6.25.
Assuming 0.055 gal/hp/hour means about .35 gal/hour or about 35
hours run time.
At 5 knots, that should give him a range of 175 miles.

If you look at the specs of the 2GM20, these numbers are close to
realistic,
though there are variables not considered, such has the propeller
setup, and the
cleanliness of the hull.

So in theory, there should be no problem. If his only concern is no
wind, then
he should be able to come close to these idealized numbers, or even
do better by
slowing down some. However, if headwinds are a problem,or if the is
absolutely
no alternative source of fuel, he might want to carry a reserve,
especially
since he can gain 50% capacity with a low cost jug lashed on deck.


"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote

I have done 75 miles using about 7 European gallons on
flat calm.


Doesn't help any, Donut. Where am I going to find Euro
gallons over
here?

You must have missed the bit where I said that US gallons were
about 90%
of
UK gallons.

Your 12 gallons are about 10.8 of my gallons. Therefore, my
opinion is
that
12 gallons will be fine as long as you don't try to motor into
strong
head
winds.

I didn't mean to embarrass you .. honestly ... I wasn't aware
that you
were
mathematically challenged!!

You're not much better, Donal.

Correct ... but I deliver my insults with more panache!

12 US gallons are under 10 Imperial Gallons.

Again, You are absolutely correct. I hadn't realised that US
gallons were
so small.



Now that we have the confessions out of the way, do you think that
Scotty
should attempt his trip without spare fuel?



Regards


Donal
--

I've got a pair of red, 3 gallon jugs. Gotta keep up the
trailer-trash appearance.

Scotty

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. ..
Plus, if you get one of those official yellow 5 gallon plastic jerry
cans
and strap it to your stern rails it looks veeeeeeeeeery cool.
John Cairns
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I think I will. Just for peace of mind.

Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
Scotty's boat has an LWL of 25 so 5 knots means an S/L of 1.0.
Pushing a boat
at S/L of 1.0 needs one HP per 1200 pounds, which for 7500 pounds
is
6.25.
Assuming 0.055 gal/hp/hour means about .35 gal/hour or about 35
hours run time.
At 5 knots, that should give him a range of 175 miles.

If you look at the specs of the 2GM20, these numbers are close to
realistic,
though there are variables not considered, such has the propeller
setup, and the
cleanliness of the hull.

So in theory, there should be no problem. If his only concern is
no
wind, then
he should be able to come close to these idealized numbers, or
even
do better by
slowing down some. However, if headwinds are a problem,or if the
is
absolutely
no alternative source of fuel, he might want to carry a reserve,
especially
since he can gain 50% capacity with a low cost jug lashed on
deck.


"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in
message
...
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote

I have done 75 miles using about 7 European gallons on
flat calm.


Doesn't help any, Donut. Where am I going to find Euro
gallons over
here?

You must have missed the bit where I said that US gallons
were
about 90%
of
UK gallons.

Your 12 gallons are about 10.8 of my gallons. Therefore,
my
opinion is
that
12 gallons will be fine as long as you don't try to motor
into
strong
head
winds.

I didn't mean to embarrass you .. honestly ... I wasn't
aware
that you
were
mathematically challenged!!

You're not much better, Donal.

Correct ... but I deliver my insults with more panache!

12 US gallons are under 10 Imperial Gallons.

Again, You are absolutely correct. I hadn't realised that US
gallons were
so small.



Now that we have the confessions out of the way, do you think
that
Scotty
should attempt his trip without spare fuel?



Regards


Donal
--

On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 00:10:03 +0100, something compelled "Donal"
, to say:


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
are you trying to be obtuse?


What does "obtuse" mean?

Differently acute.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
are you trying to be obtuse?


What does "obtuse" mean?


yes.

Just as I thought.


You've had a vasectomy, haven't you?



Regards


Donal
--

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
Scotty's boat has an LWL of 25 so 5 knots means an S/L of 1.0. Pushing a
boat
at S/L of 1.0 needs one HP per 1200 pounds, which for 7500 pounds is 6.25.
Assuming 0.055 gal/hp/hour means about .35 gal/hour or about 35 hours run
time.
At 5 knots, that should give him a range of 175 miles.

If you look at the specs of the 2GM20, these numbers are close to
realistic,
though there are variables not considered, such has the propeller setup,
and the
cleanliness of the hull.

So in theory, there should be no problem. If his only concern is no wind,
then
he should be able to come close to these idealized numbers, or even do
better by
slowing down some. However, if headwinds are a problem,or if the is
absolutely
no alternative source of fuel, he might want to carry a reserve,
especially
since he can gain 50% capacity with a low cost jug lashed on deck.


That sounds like what I said, doesn't it?

I must have been wrong when I thought that you were disagreeing with me.



Regards

Donal
--


Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
....
At 5 knots, that should give him a range of 175 miles.

....

That sounds like what I said, doesn't it?

I must have been wrong when I thought that you were disagreeing with me.


My only other contribution to this thread was pointing out that you had flawed
conversion for Imperial to US gallons, ironically while you were accusing Scotty
of being "mathematically challenged."

I think everyone is in agreement that 12 gallons, US or Donal sized, should be
enough for a 100 mile trip, but Scotty should still be cautious, since he has
not verified the fuel usage of his boat, or the true size of the tank.

"Jeff Morris" wrote

I think everyone is in agreement that 12 gallons, US or Donal sized,
should be
enough for a 100 mile trip, but Scotty should still be cautious,
since he has
not verified the fuel usage of his boat, or the true size of the
tank.

That's an excellant point, Jeff, I have yet to go below the half tank
mark, so I really don't know how far down she'll go.

Scotty

Scotty,

That is a very, very good point. I have a 20 gal tank and it s a fitted
tank so the bottom 1/4 tanks drains a lot faster than the upper 3/4 due
to the curve of the hull.

Ole Thom

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
...
At 5 knots, that should give him a range of 175 miles.

...

That sounds like what I said, doesn't it?

I must have been wrong when I thought that you were disagreeing with me.


My only other contribution to this thread was pointing out that you had
flawed
conversion for Imperial to US gallons, ironically while you were accusing
Scotty
of being "mathematically challenged."

I've accused Scotty of much worse ... and he's lived to tell the tale!

I've accused you of much less, and you've reacted like a big girl's blouse!






I think everyone is in agreement that 12 gallons, US or Donal sized,
should be
enough for a 100 mile trip, but Scotty should still be cautious, since he
has
not verified the fuel usage of his boat, or the true size of the tank.

So, my little mathematical error is of no consequence???? We all agree that
a bit of spare fuel would be useful.




Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
...
At 5 knots, that should give him a range of 175 miles.

...

That sounds like what I said, doesn't it?

I must have been wrong when I thought that you were disagreeing with me.


My only other contribution to this thread was pointing out that you had
flawed
conversion for Imperial to US gallons, ironically while you were accusing
Scotty
of being "mathematically challenged."

I've accused Scotty of much worse ... and he's lived to tell the tale!

I've accused you of much less, and you've reacted like a big girl's blouse!

You sure do make a lot of accusations. I guess when that's all you have ...



I think everyone is in agreement that 12 gallons, US or Donal sized,
should be
enough for a 100 mile trip, but Scotty should still be cautious, since he
has
not verified the fuel usage of his boat, or the true size of the tank.

So, my little mathematical error is of no consequence???? We all agree that
a bit of spare fuel would be useful.


Your opinion is of little consequence in any case. I was just pointing out your
faulty conversion in case some newbie didn't know your track record.

To be honest, I had been taught that an Imperial Gallon was exactly 5 US quarts,
but its actually a bit smaller. I was surprised to learn that US and British
pints and liquid ounces are not the same, either.