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Joe September 16th 04 05:10 PM

Pensacola Waves
 
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.

Joe

Scott Vernon September 16th 04 07:46 PM


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty



katysails September 16th 04 11:43 PM

In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty





Joe September 17th 04 12:37 AM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.



The really bigs waves were close to 100 miles offshore Scotty.
The area is called Mississippi canyon. Its almost as big as the grand
canyon but its underwater and the waves formed close to the canyons
rim. One company lost a really big 400 million + dollar drilling rig
called the Neptune. It was found 78 miles off location today and seems
to be in undamaged condition minus all 8 of the anchors and anchor
cables.


Oh well... some of my buddies will make some mucho denero putting her
back in her place and settin her new anchors. Makes me wish I owned an
anchor handling boat. Setting anchors in 1100 foot of water pays well.

Joe


Scotty


JAXAshby September 17th 04 01:53 AM

no, 55 foot waves (27.5 feet above the waterline, 27.5 below the waterline)
break when the water depth gets to about 90 some feet.

In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty













Shen44 September 17th 04 03:00 AM

Subject: Pensacola Waves
From: (JAXAshby)

no, 55 foot waves (27.5 feet above the waterline, 27.5 below the waterline)
break when the water depth gets to about 90 some feet.



Waves are not normally formed so that the crest is the same height above the
"still water level" as the trough is below it.
Normally the crest is higher.



Parallax September 17th 04 03:26 AM

"katysails" wrote in message ...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty



Gulf gets very deep 100 miles south of Pensacola.

JAXAshby September 17th 04 03:33 AM

therefore, waves break in deeper water.

From: (Shen44)
Date: 9/16/2004 10:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Subject: Pensacola Waves
From:
(JAXAshby)

no, 55 foot waves (27.5 feet above the waterline, 27.5 below the waterline)
break when the water depth gets to about 90 some feet.



Waves are not normally formed so that the crest is the same height above the
"still water level" as the trough is below it.
Normally the crest is higher.











JAXAshby September 17th 04 03:34 AM

how deep within 10 miles?

(Parallax)
Date: 9/16/2004 10:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"katysails" wrote in message
...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.


yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty



Gulf gets very deep 100 miles south of Pensacola.









Joe September 17th 04 03:40 AM

"katysails" wrote in message ...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....


You dont know much about the Gulf do you Katy?

Joe


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty



Joe September 17th 04 04:07 AM

"katysails" wrote in message ...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....


Here you go Katy. A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/hydrates/images/fig2.gif

Thats the Mississippi canyon.

Also in the NW corner of the Gulf you will find 300-900 ft depths 10NM offshore.

The Mississippi canyon is over 7,200 feet deep in areas.

50 foot............Dang Yankee.

Joe






"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.



yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty



Shen44 September 17th 04 04:11 AM

ubject: Pensacola Waves
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 09/16/2004 19:33 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

therefore, waves break in deeper water.



Waves are not normally formed so that the crest is the same height above

the
"still water level" as the trough is below it.
Normally the crest is higher.


Part of the problem with your simplistic arguement, is that you are basing it
on normal soundings at the shoreline area.
However, not having a chart of that coastline, it would be impossible to say
how far inshore a large 36' wave could get before breaking and falling apart.
What was the depth of water at time of tide? What was the increased depth due
to storm surge? Was it a gentle sloping beach or a deep channel? Was there a
swell underlying the wind wave?
Add to this that "Mother Nature" doesn't always adhere to strict laws of
physics and you have the possibility of it happening.
Hey, scientist thought for years that rogue waves were a very infrequent
occurence .... they now know better.

Shen

katysails September 17th 04 12:06 PM

TIt was a joking remark, Joe...based upon the fact that it takes a sailboat
a couple of hours in many places in the Gulf to find water deep enough to
sail in...maybe they should stick gloating marinas and fake islands 10 miles
out so it would be usable for more than just tankers, freighters, and shoal
draft boats...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"katysails" wrote in message

...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....


Here you go Katy. A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/hydrates/images/fig2.gif

Thats the Mississippi canyon.

Also in the NW corner of the Gulf you will find 300-900 ft depths 10NM

offshore.

The Mississippi canyon is over 7,200 feet deep in areas.

50 foot............Dang Yankee.

Joe






"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.


yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty





Joe September 17th 04 07:27 PM

"katysails" wrote in message ...
TIt was a joking remark, Joe...based upon the fact that it takes a sailboat
a couple of hours in many places in the Gulf to find water deep enough to
sail in...maybe they should stick gloating marinas and fake islands 10 miles
out so it would be usable for more than just tankers, freighters, and shoal
draft boats...


Katy,

We have 100's of islands in the Gulf of Mexico. Padre, Galveston,
Cat, Rattlesnake, Ship, Petit Bolg, Marco, Horn, Captiva
ect...ect...ect.

Also we have 100 of artificial islands called Oil Platforms. They
attract and support huge amounts of fish. We also have a major coral
reef. 100's of Bays, bayous, and rivers to explore. And indeed we have
2 of the largest shipping ports in the world, and major offshore
supertanker litering stations.

The water is warm, and crystal clear off the shelf. Great currents,
and the bottom is covered with shrimp, treasure ships, pipelines, salt
domes.

Your little lake is just a dead pond compared to the Gulf of Mexico.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"katysails" wrote in message

...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....


Here you go Katy. A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/hydrates/images/fig2.gif

Thats the Mississippi canyon.

Also in the NW corner of the Gulf you will find 300-900 ft depths 10NM

offshore.

The Mississippi canyon is over 7,200 feet deep in areas.

50 foot............Dang Yankee.

Joe






"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.


yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty



DSK September 17th 04 07:36 PM

Joe wrote:
The water is warm, and crystal clear off the shelf. Great currents,
and the bottom is covered with shrimp, treasure ships, pipelines, salt
domes.

Your little lake is just a dead pond compared to the Gulf of Mexico.


Odd choice of words, Joe.
http://www.tulane.edu/~bfleury/envir...b/DeadZone.htm

"The Dead Zone"

"The Gulf of Mexico hypoxic zone is a seasonal phenomena occurring in
the northern Gulf of Mexico, from the mouth of the Mississippi River to
beyond the Texas border. It is more commonly referred to as the Gulf of
Mexico Dead Zone, because oxygen levels within the zone are too low to
support marine life. The Dead Zone was first recorded in the early
1970's. It originally occurred every two to three years, but now occurs
annually."

The Dead Zone reaches a size every summer of about 8,000 square miles.
Fortunately it retreats in winter, but the likelihood is that it will
become permanent in the coming years. The Gulf Dead Zone is 100%
attributable to our "civilization's" effluent. There are other similar
dead zones in other large bodies of water about the Earth.

DSK


katysails September 18th 04 12:44 AM

Yeah, but one can sail anywhere with a 6 ft keel on our little ponds....and
there's no red tide...no pellagra....no sharks....no deadly fish...no
salt...and most of all...no hurricanes. You can keep it.
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"katysails" wrote in message

...
TIt was a joking remark, Joe...based upon the fact that it takes a

sailboat
a couple of hours in many places in the Gulf to find water deep enough

to
sail in...maybe they should stick gloating marinas and fake islands 10

miles
out so it would be usable for more than just tankers, freighters, and

shoal
draft boats...


Katy,

We have 100's of islands in the Gulf of Mexico. Padre, Galveston,
Cat, Rattlesnake, Ship, Petit Bolg, Marco, Horn, Captiva
ect...ect...ect.

Also we have 100 of artificial islands called Oil Platforms. They
attract and support huge amounts of fish. We also have a major coral
reef. 100's of Bays, bayous, and rivers to explore. And indeed we have
2 of the largest shipping ports in the world, and major offshore
supertanker litering stations.

The water is warm, and crystal clear off the shelf. Great currents,
and the bottom is covered with shrimp, treasure ships, pipelines, salt
domes.

Your little lake is just a dead pond compared to the Gulf of Mexico.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"katysails" wrote in message

...
In the Gulf, that means you'd probably be looking at the bottom....

Here you go Katy. A picture is worth a thousand words:

http://walrus.wr.usgs.gov/hydrates/images/fig2.gif

Thats the Mississippi canyon.

Also in the NW corner of the Gulf you will find 300-900 ft depths 10NM

offshore.

The Mississippi canyon is over 7,200 feet deep in areas.

50 foot............Dang Yankee.

Joe






"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Were measured at 55 foot last night off the coast of Pensacola.

That's the biggest waves I've ever heard of in the Gulf of

Mexico.
30 footers are not to uncommon.

A 55 footer would be one hell of a ride.


yeah! up and over the local 7-11 store.

Scotty





JAXAshby September 18th 04 04:54 AM

damn those politicians!!! which one(s) of those turd voted those laws of
physics, anyway???

(Shen44)
Date: 9/16/2004 11:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

ubject: Pensacola Waves
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 09/16/2004 19:33 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

therefore, waves break in deeper water.



Waves are not normally formed so that the crest is the same height above

the
"still water level" as the trough is below it.
Normally the crest is higher.


Part of the problem with your simplistic arguement, is that you are basing it
on normal soundings at the shoreline area.
However, not having a chart of that coastline, it would be impossible to say
how far inshore a large 36' wave could get before breaking and falling apart.
What was the depth of water at time of tide? What was the increased depth due
to storm surge? Was it a gentle sloping beach or a deep channel? Was there a
swell underlying the wind wave?
Add to this that "Mother Nature" doesn't always adhere to strict laws of
physics and you have the possibility of it happening.
Hey, scientist thought for years that rogue waves were a very infrequent
occurence .... they now know better.

Shen









Joe September 18th 04 05:06 AM

DSK wrote in message t...
Joe wrote:
The water is warm, and crystal clear off the shelf. Great currents,
and the bottom is covered with shrimp, treasure ships, pipelines, salt
domes.

Your little lake is just a dead pond compared to the Gulf of Mexico.


Odd choice of words, Joe.
http://www.tulane.edu/~bfleury/envir...b/DeadZone.htm

"The Dead Zone"


The dead zone is cause by all that damn yankee fertilizer washing
down the Mississippi. This year the Gulf seems to be in excellent
health. Waters been alot clearer and no red tide or flesh eating
bacteria reported yet.

Still the Gulf is far superior to lake superior or any of the Great
lakes IMO.


Joe








"The Gulf of Mexico hypoxic zone is a seasonal phenomena occurring in
the northern Gulf of Mexico, from the mouth of the Mississippi River to
beyond the Texas border. It is more commonly referred to as the Gulf of
Mexico Dead Zone, because oxygen levels within the zone are too low to
support marine life. The Dead Zone was first recorded in the early
1970's. It originally occurred every two to three years, but now occurs
annually."

The Dead Zone reaches a size every summer of about 8,000 square miles.
Fortunately it retreats in winter, but the likelihood is that it will
become permanent in the coming years. The Gulf Dead Zone is 100%
attributable to our "civilization's" effluent. There are other similar
dead zones in other large bodies of water about the Earth.

DSK



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